Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.1 Cancelled

geekwithsoul writes "mozillaZine is reporting that the Mozilla Thunderbird 1.01 release is cancelled. While they just released 1.01 of Firefox and intended to release an updated Mozilla Suite and 1.01 version of Thunderbird shortly thereafter, they've decided to address some additional issues and release ver. 1.02 of Firefox and Thunderbird 'soon.' The fixes will also be included in the Mozilla Suite 1.7.6 release. Ah, the joy of awkward numbering conventions!"

Comments

That big of a deal?

[ziggamon2.0]

So, they want the Firefox and Thunderbird versions be in sync, is that so unreasonable?
What's the big news here?

Actually, a good idea

[suso]

I would rather that they don't release something if they think there are issues or security problems with it. Mainly because people are still adopting these pieces of software. So there will be some people who will only download the latest version and may wait years before upgrading. Its better if they get stuck with what is considered to be the current best version.

The rest of you that are aware and capabile of making upgrades, should do so of course.

Re:Actually, a good idea

[Ogerman]

The rest of you that are aware and capable of making upgrades, should do so of course.

Of course, the problem is that the FF/TB upgrade mechanism is absolutely awful. There's no easy way to roll out the FF/TB duo on a Windows network. Worse, even for stand-alone use, the upgrade process just installs a new copy over top of the old. (redundant add/remove program item, desktop icons, and all!) As a reluctant part-time Windows admin, I can say with pretty good confidence that this is the one thing holding Firefox back from widespread use in businesses.

Firefox team, please wake up and listen! An official method for centralized roll-out on Windows networks is an absolute must if you want to make a dent in IE usage in the business / corporate world.

Thank goodness the other half of my work is Linux, where FF upgrades are as simple as "apt-get install mozilla-firefox"

Re:Actually, a good idea

[EvilStein]

Another absolute must is a triumphant calendar. :P

Although, I suspect that you can just get users to upgrade by doing some Windows logon script voodoo. It works most of the time. :)

Don't rush it

[Anonymous Coward]

now the codebase is reasonably stable, i'd rather they be fixing bugs and perfecting the code than rushing it out the door like beancounter run jobs to meet a contract deadline
obviously security patches are different but for general releases, make it right, keep it polished rather than looking like the software equivalent of a RiceBoy racer with a million things bolted on but none of them make it a better car

Seems odd to me

[Chuck Chunder]

I thought one of the advantages to decoupling the various Mozilla components would be that they could develop on timeframes that made sense individually.

Re:Seems odd to me

[Lehk228]

yes, but keeping the numbers in synch makes it easier to tell that you are up to date with all of them

Re:Seems odd to me

[edwdig]

Well, these releases are about security fixes to the shared core of the seperate apps, not about features, so it does make sense to syncronize the updates.

If the Gecko core was used as a shared library, you'd be able to just download an update to that and fix both apps at once. But since the core wasn't designed for seperate apps, you have to download updates for each individually instead.

update agent

[mslinux]

why the hell can't the update agent handle these fixes? why do user have to manually upgrade when a new security threat is found? IE beats the hell out of FF when it comes to patching.

Re:Firefox really DOES need help!

[Anonymous Coward]

Pop-ups are comming back with a force to be wreckoned with. Some sites (Won't mention what ones ;-) upload worms to my box through java, with nothing but Norton warning my that it was even being loaded. I even compared the sites with IE and FF; and IEs popup-blocker stops all while FF stops some.

Please mention which ones, as an AC if you don't want people to know where you went. You see, if you don't mention which ones, it looks like you're spreading FUD. You see, I'VE never had that happen to me (even browsing dodgy pr0n sites), and I'VE not seen a popup since I switched to Firefox.

So right now, we have your anecdotes disagreeing with my experience, and I'm calling you a liar.

If you'd care to link to one of these sites where IE allegedly blocks popups better than Firefox, or where Firefox allegedly allows your computer to be infected with a worm without so much as a warning, then maybe people would have some incentive to believe you, sort of thing?

In true slashdot style...

[Samah]

... the story title totally misleads people into thinking that Thunderbird itself has been dropped.
Perhaps a better title would be:
"Thunderbird 1.0.1 dropped, 1.0.2 on the way"
or
"Thunderbird postponed to version 1.0.2"

Just a thought...

Re:numbers

[spectre_240sx]

I don't even try to figure out what Java versions are supposed to mean. I just check now and then to see what the current latest version is and make sure I've got it.

Re:cool

[Anonymous Coward]

Odd, someone suggests a product, gives a presentation about it so the PHBs can make a decision and he gets fired, you on the other hand are blindly sticking with others decisions and milking out the "same as it ever was" coasting attitude just to get along and you are still there. I suggest you withdrawl your head and start breathing again. Not every product is good for everyone but bringing ideas to the table to discuss advantages and disadvantages can bring about a positive change, blindly using what you always have is not a good long term plan.

I know, I feed the troll.

Re:Confused

[littlem]

maybe they have realised that Mozila FireFox is the first real opponent for M$IE, and they are developing it as fast as they can.

Seems unlikely - surely there are separate teams working on each?