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Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.1 Cancelled

geekwithsoul writes "mozillaZine is reporting that the Mozilla Thunderbird 1.01 release is cancelled. While they just released 1.01 of Firefox and intended to release an updated Mozilla Suite and 1.01 version of Thunderbird shortly thereafter, they've decided to address some additional issues and release ver. 1.02 of Firefox and Thunderbird 'soon.' The fixes will also be included in the Mozilla Suite 1.7.6 release. Ah, the joy of awkward numbering conventions!"

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  1. Hope it is soon! by Red+Pointy+Tail · · Score: 1, Informative

    I love Thunderbird for its simplicity and think it's a really good job - but I hope they fix a few annoying bugs, like having all my messages being mark 'unread' inexplicably.

    1. Re:Hope it is soon! by shayne321 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's there (at least in TB 1.0 and up, and Seamonkey 1.7 and up). Just go to your address book, and go to File->New and pick Mailing List. Seamonkey even has an icon at the top of the addressbook for New List.. Not sure if TB has this icon or not, I don't have it in front of me.

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  2. Numbering error in story by akeyes · · Score: 4, Informative

    You got the title right, the rest you forgot the second dot '1.0.1' not '1.01'

  3. There is no 1.01 by Guspaz · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Ah, the joy of awkward numbering conventions!"

    You're telling me! So awkward that apparently the fact that it's 1.0.1 and not 1.01 went completely unnoticed. They are two VERY different numbering conventions.

    For example, 1.10 would indicate the 10th release of version 1, whereas 1.1.0 would indicate the magnitude of the changes in the release, not the number of releases.

  4. Firefox and Thunderbird 1.0.2 out next week by viscount · · Score: 5, Informative

    Release Candidates out now

    http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007759 .html

    Damn, those guys are quick.

    1. Re:Firefox and Thunderbird 1.0.2 out next week by aerthling · · Score: 4, Informative

      or even 007759.

  5. "Want pi now!" as he shot Knuth by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. Re:numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    No one uses Winamp... there's iTunes

  7. Re:numbers by MiKM · · Score: 2, Informative

    Indeed. If you look at the WA Tech support forums, there are hundreds of threads from around the time of the WA5 release demanding to know what happened to V4

  8. Re:Confused by ZephyrXero · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, for one thing, the slashdot article had the numbers listed wrong. It's 1.0.2 not 1.02. As for them skipping 1.0.1 with Thunderbird, since it's just one number off in the third spot, I doubt anyone will really notice except us geeks...

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  9. Re:numbers by kdark1701 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a plugin that will allow for Ogg playback, but there is a second delay everytime you play the ogg file. And you can't edit the tags. After a while I decided it wasn't worth it.

  10. Re:Actually, a good idea by hattmoward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Make that "file://///ourserver/ourshare/our directory/our idiot doc file.doc" and you've got a deal! Works on Firefox and IE.

  11. Re:Firefox really DOES need help! by wanker256 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'VE not seen a popup since I switched to Firefox.

    Visit my favorite Urban Legends Debunking site http://www.snopes.com/. About a month ago, I noticed that pop ups began reappearing on this site, diminishing the enjoyment I derive from visiting it.

  12. Re:What am I supposed to use for e-mail? by dn15 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Note that they didn't say the Thunderbird project as a whole has been cancelled, just that the next version will be 1.0.2 instead of 1.0.1.

  13. Re:Actually, a good idea by drewness · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firefox team, please wake up and listen! An official method for centralized roll-out on Windows networks is an absolute must if you want to make a dent in IE usage in the business / corporate world.

    Planned for 1.1. Scroll down the article a way and you will see that one of the things planned for 1.1 is an MSI installer so it plays better with corporate deployments.

  14. Read this and shut-up you big-balled fuck by templest · · Score: 5, Informative

    No one calls me a liar and gets away with it (unless I'm actually lying -- but that isn't the case here).
    This is a random site off google that succesfully creates pop-ups in FF 1.0.1 http://www.activewin.com/winxp/tips/index.shtml

    And the number of sites is increasing rapidly. Here's a thread oy people that seem to be experiencing the same thig as me. Not FUD my foe, FF is still better than IE, but it's popularity is starting to attract more ad companies to employ new tactics. You just made your way into my foe list... liar... pshh.

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    1. Re:Read this and shut-up you big-balled fuck by templest · · Score: 3, Informative

      And in my spiteful rage I forgot to include the thread, which is here.. http://www.forum4designers.com/message190856.html/

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    2. Re:Read this and shut-up you big-balled fuck by artson · · Score: 5, Informative

      The site http://www.activewin.com/winxp/tips/index.shtml successfully executed a popup on me when I visited, just now. The browser is Mozilla 1.8b using Adblock. I have javascript allowed to raise and lower windows and change images. When I disable those two Java options - no popup. Thank you for the informative and truthful, tip.

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    3. Re:Read this and shut-up you big-balled fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I got the pop up but disabled it by disabling java's ability to change images.

    4. Re:Read this and shut-up you big-balled fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Come on, /. readers! I'm posting as AC as I have already moderated the thread.

      For those who did not see popups when visiting the link in the parent post, you are using some kinds of extension/proxy, or you are missing out a major point, the cookies!

      Tested on FF 1.0.1 (Win32) without any extension for blocking things, if you clear your cookies and visit the link again, you will get a big fat popup. And no, you will still see the popup even you have every advanced Javascript option unchecked.

    5. Re:Read this and shut-up you big-balled fuck by StarDrifter · · Score: 2, Informative

      This site is using Flash to do its popups in FireFox. So you shouldn't see them if you don't have the Flash plugin installed.

      It executes this javascript. That does a document.write() to create an EMBED with the source pointing to this flash applet. And that flash applet is the thing that opens the popup.

      It also sets a cookie so that it only gives you a popup once per day. This is why changing your JavaScript settings may seem to block it. But messing with those settings has no real effect.

      I have FlashBlock installed, but that's not enough. The Flash applet still gets a chance to run for a fraction of a second before FlashBlock hides it, and that's all it needs.

      See this post on Asa Dotzler's blog for a workaround for this problem.

  15. Re:What am I supposed to use for e-mail? by Rick+and+Roll · · Score: 2, Informative

    nobody should have any trouble getting invites any more. There's a buttload of them on isnoop.net.

  16. Re:Will Slashdot finally render correctly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Umm... I seem to have no problem rendering Slashdot in thunderbird. Add the RSS feed, then click on a story, and voila! You've got slashdot in thunderbird.

  17. Re:Firefox really DOES need help! by bunratty · · Score: 3, Informative
    Try this tip shamelessly stolen from adot's notblog (March 4, 2005 entry):

    To block pop-ups from plugins, open your Firefox 1.0 or 1.0.1 browser, type about:config in the address field. Right-click in the resulting config page somewhere and select New -> Interger. Type privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins in the resulting dialog, hit OK, type 2 in the next dialog and you're all set.

    This pref can actually take three values:
    0: open allowed
    1: the opened windows are treated as popups, but they're allowed to open (we limit the number of these types of popups)
    2: the window is a popup, block it

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  18. Re:Firefox really DOES need help! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I just went to snopes with Firefox 1.0.1. No popups for me.

  19. Re:numbers by edwdig · · Score: 2, Informative

    I remember nightly builds would recommend you upgrading once they got to be a month or so old, and I also remember pre 1.0 releases doing that, but it's been years since I've seen Mozilla recommend me upgrade.

    Looking at the Wayback Machine, here's the Mozilla.org Releases page from June 2003. Even then, the page clearly said in bold print that the releases were for testing purposes only. The page also has other warnings about not using it.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030627112551/mozilla. org/releases/

  20. Re:Actually, a good idea by JeremyALogan · · Score: 3, Informative

    another problem with the current install method is that if you install on top of a current install (so as not to lose themes and such) it adds a new item in your "add/remove programs" list. I currently have 7 installs of Firefox and 5 of Thunderbord (according to the list).

  21. Re:Actually, a good idea by Myen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmm, so they're doing a proper MSI now?

    Last I checked - it was a MSI file that launched the normal installer. Yeah, real useful. I'm hoping that's been changed; havn't been tracking the installer issues.

  22. Re:Actually, a good idea by novakreo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course, the problem is that the FF/TB upgrade mechanism is absolutely awful. There's no easy way to roll out the FF/TB duo on a Windows network. Worse, even for stand-alone use, the upgrade process just installs a new copy over top of the old. (redundant add/remove program item, desktop icons, and all!) As a reluctant part-time Windows admin, I can say with pretty good confidence that this is the one thing holding Firefox back from widespread use in businesses.

    I should also point out that during the install process, if you choose not to add icons to the Desktop, Start Menu, and/or Quick Launch bar, Firefox setup goes ahead and installs them anyway.

    Not a favourable first impression for a project trying to present itself as a better alternative to Internet Explorer.

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  23. Re:update agent by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2, Informative

    That would explain why the little green arrow showed up in my browser one day and I clicked it and it upgraded me.

    Jeez, I thought that was awfully difficult compared to the 5 clicks I go through on Windows Update.

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  24. Re:Actually, a good idea by N7DR · · Score: 2, Informative
    Worse, even for stand-alone use, the upgrade process just installs a new copy over top of the old. (redundant add/remove program item, desktop icons, and all!)

    Yes, I couldn't believe it when I was noodling around Add/Remove Programs on a Windows systems recently and saw a slew of FF/TB entries. I removed an old one, and promptly discovered that the current installation stopped working. I shifted the disk back five minutes with GoBack so no harm was done, but it did strike me as something that surely should have been fixed before releasing these programs to the general public.