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PSPCasting

ChipGuy writes "Om Malik points out the launch of Sony PSP in US could actually turn Sony's fortunes around and thinks that new unqiue applications like Sajeeth Cherian's latest software, PSP Video 9, might be the real reason. Cherian created Videora bit torrent client's new hack, PSP Video 9. It takes any video and turns it into a format that PSP can read. So now you can download videos using Videora, and then convert them to PSP friendly format within a few seconds.He calls this PSP casting."

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  1. cool ? by mirko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Besides the geek factor, how would this be cooler than a standard portable mini tv set, especially given its price ?

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    1. Re:cool ? by DrEldarion · · Score: 2, Informative

      Easy answer: You can't play games on your "standard portable mini tv set"?

  2. PSP video format by Jarlsberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sony's future prospects would be even more bright if the thing had supported non proprietary MPEG-2/DivX/Xvid and WMW from the get go...

    1. Re:PSP video format by Jarlsberg · · Score: 2
      Notice I put that last ;)

      I actually meant to write non-proprietary MPEG, and also WMV. If only it was possible to edit posts on Slashdot...

    2. Re:PSP video format by sh00z · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not sure what you mean by "proprietary" in this case, as the PSP uses MPEG-4, which is No more proprietary than MPEG-2, your counter-example.

  3. After conversion....How do you get it on the PSP? by rubberbando · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you have to burn a mini CD-R / DVD+-R?

    Or do you have to connect the PSP to your PC to upload it to it?

    Or can you just save it to a memory stick and put in the PSP which will automatically recognize it and play it?

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  4. Casting? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Funny
    He calls this PSP casting.
    Is 'casting' the new hip catch-all phrase, after being made popular by the term 'pod-casting'?

    Next: 'Blogcasting' (reading your fave blog on your cellphone), 'bookcasting' (Ebooks on your PSP), and so on.
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    1. Re:Casting? by akadruid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Combining existing dumb ideas with worse catchphrases and patenting the results has replaced innvotation, as shown by the 'plogging' story.

      Besides Ebooks on a PSP would be EPSPBookCasting or something. Patent that quick.

      Who wants to bet the next four stories will also feature this process? Here's my prediction:

      Gridlogging
      Nano-toasting
      WiFiSatMaxG Mobile
      FlashReceipeCasting

      I propose a name for this phenomenon:
      dotCatchphrasePatentAbuse

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    2. Re:Casting? by chman · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Internet, to many people, holds some promise of being able to make absolutely anyone a world wide celebrity - that somehow a tiny idea can spread through the tangled maze of routers and fibre optics and afford its thinker-upper immortality. It probably started when everyone noticed just how much fucking money those Google guys made, or that kid that earned a metric fuckton playing Internet stock.
      Unfortunately, this mentality means that absolutely everyone throws around bullshit ideas. Also unfortunate is that any event within the Internet is desperately reported on by the mainstream media without it. So terms such as 'Podcasting' - which comes down to putting an MP3 on your iPod, as though that was some novel use for it - get seized upon and thought of as useful to society.

      Fuck it, I've got a new idea. I call it 'ShitZineing'. I came up with it when I used the Times Style section to wipe the excrement from my behind after I ran out of toilet paper. Obviously this idea can't take off without the iPod somehow being involved, so I figure I can Podcast a weekly show on the best pages to use from each week's Sunday magazines when you're out of TP and have a dire cling-on problem.
      There we are, throw that one out through the Blogosphere and come back to me with a big fat cheque when someone wants to make it commercially viable.

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  5. Re:PSPCasting... by OAB_X · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Its like Podcasting, but your not broadcasting anything, your just playing videos, wheres the casting part of PSPcasting?

  6. Definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    castcasting (vb.) - The act of taking a word or acronym and appending "cast" or "casting" to the end to make it sound up-to-date and cool. See also "gategating".

  7. Thank God by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally a way to spread the wisdom in my home movies to the whole world.

    Now I'm off to register PSPorn.com

  8. Re:After conversion....How do you get it on the PS by The+Eagle+Maint · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sony's UMD format discs which they're using for the PSP can't be burned yet as far as I know. For now at least, music, movies and pictures can only be put on the memory stick via a card reader or by hooking your PSP up to your PC via USB and transferring it that way.

  9. Mobile Cinema by LittleGuernica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mobile Cinema isn't going to work, I don't want to sound like Steve Jobs, but watching Jack Bauer say "Dammit" on a 4,5" screen is not quite as good as on a HDTV plasma(or something more modest), even though the screen is fabulous..

    Ofcourse as a PornStation Portable it will do just fine..

    1. Re:Mobile Cinema by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Mobile Cinema isn't going to work
      It'll work just fine whenever you are on the move. Back when I frequently made some frequent long-distance flights, I considered purchasing one of those portable DVD units which I previously had dismissed as 'utterly pointless' because of their small screen. But a couple of 12-hour flights with sucky in-flight movies and a boring/snoring fellow passenger changed my opinion of these units real quick!

      Besides, if you want a big screen you can always get one of those LCD glasses (Sony's GlassTron).
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  10. The real answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a programmer I can give you the reason we don't add support for any of this stuff and instead developed (well... bought) a proprietary video playback codec. (Actimagine makes a great codec, easy to program with, but a bit expensive)

    We hate our users, it is really that simple, we hate them and want them all to die.

    Ok, all joking aside, we used Actimagine for one simple reason. To cut down compatibility issues. DO you realize that both Xvid and Divx are based on other codecs and are constantly evolving. What happens in a year or two when the codecs has become obsolete. We can't upgrade so we are stuck with either claiming support for obsolete codecs or never including them in the first place. From a PR standpoint it is better to be proprietary then to be outdated.

  11. Doesn't make sense for the US by earthbound+kid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only time portable video is useful is when you're away from home/your computer and you're not walking, driving, or otherwise in control of your motion. Obviously, by this set of criteria it makes sense to watch portable video on a train or bus, but since the average American is either driving, walking, or biking to and from home (a place with existing video sources) to work (a place with computers), it doesn't seem like there's much of a need for portable video. Now, I will say there are some places where portable video make sense-- like on a commuter train in Japan. I saw a guy watching TV on his phone just yesterday and thought, "Wow, that's pretty cool." But when does the average American ever have an opportunity to sit around like that while someone else is steering the vehicle? You can slap portable video onto a product people are already going to buy, like a cellphone, as an optional feature, but it doesn't make sense to make portable video the centerpiece of any technology destined for the US market.

    I'm with Steve Jobs on this one-- there's no real demand for portable video in the US.

    1. Re:Doesn't make sense for the US by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "...like on a commuter train in Japan."

      um... what's wrong with commuter trains in the US? I, like thousands of americans, take the train to work daily, and ride subways quite often. When I'm by myself, I enjoy my PSP or my DS.

      let's not forget the countless people who take busses, too. Metropolitan areas are where iPods have extreme market saturation. Walking around NYC, you see more people with white earbuds than you see talking on cell phones. These are the areas where portable video will take off.

      Right when I got my PSP, I chucked a couple videos on it (namely 2 episodes of Naruto and a couple episodes of bangbros pr0n) and I take a gander at the videos when I'm bored.

      It's also cool to show off that you can have pr0n in such a small device.

      I'd be happier if my computer had USB2, though. it takes FOREVER to transfer the data to the memorystick. especially when transfering a 300mb vid. (I've got a 512mb card)

      regarding your steve jobs statement: I think it would be a good idea for apple to get into the portable video market, but it would have to be done right. Do we have the technology to make this device at a resonable cost today? I don't think so. But an ipod-sized device with a high-def, touch screen LCD that takes up the entire front panel to display the GUI that could play widescreen video as well as emulate the ipod's interface... that'd be the greatest thing in history. especially with something like an 80gb drive. I'd pay 600$ for one of them.

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  12. let me get this straight by justforaday · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, this is an app that converts video clips to mpeg4 and then copies them to whichever drive the PSP is mounted as? Gotta agree with others -- where's the "casting" part here?

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  13. Re:After conversion....How do you get it on the PS by SirDrinksAlot · · Score: 4, Informative

    You put everything on a Memory Stick Duo. Theres no way to write disks for it (yet?)

    It uses a MPEG4 format for the videos too, its not some crazy proprietary format just a slightly modified version of mpeg4 IIRC. Makes it easy to transcode. This is why theres already so many converters to toss video onto PSPs

  14. Does make sense for the US by Mulletproof · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So is that why whenever those little Portable DVD players drop below $100 on sale at Walmart, they're usually sold out by the end of the day? There shouldn't be any question as to whether there is demand for portable video all over the place. There is. It's plainly obvious.

    The real question is whether Sony is offering it in an attractive enough package for people to buy [i]this[/i] product. I'm gonna say the will be successful, but I don't think that success will hinge on it's ability to playback video, frankly. People aren't going to run to the stores and drop $250 just for the device's ability to play Spiderman 2 on the go. The price point is all wrong for that function alone, but combined with everything else the PSP does- along with the ipod like design and marketing focus -I don't think it'll have a problem selling whatsoever.

    But why we're focusing solely on it's ability to play movies to sell units when that's barely half it's function is beyond me in the first place.

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  15. Sony's fortunes don't need turning round by JaF893 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sony's console sales have actually been pretty healthy - its the other parts of their business that are shakey. They have sold 100 million PlayStations and 75 million Playsation 2s. The PS2 sales have dipped recently but thats to be expected. When the PS3 comes out it they will be the market leader again. But I don't think PSP casting will change the fortunes of Sony.

  16. Holy Grail for the PSP? by dealexander · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Unfortunately, Sony is also a media company and has large interests in protection of intellectual property (audio and video). The feature the PSP needs to be sucessful (the ability to view content you already own on your PSP) will probably not happen. The reason is simple, Sony wants to sell you yet another copy of your favorite movies. Until we as a society find a way allow people to buy content vs. media (which happen to have content on them) then the PSP will never be a major feather in Sony's hat. I was going to buy a PSP, but without the ability to convert DVD titles that I legally own into the PSP media (memory stick is too small and expensive for this purpose) I won't be buying one. Video clips on memory stick = Too Weak

  17. Hardly a "new unqiue application" by Gravaton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Erm, you guys do know that Sony already has software available for the PSP that will convert any video file you can drag and drop onto it (Yes, DivX, XviD, etc.) into MPEG4 and put it on your PSP....and images as well....

    It's called Image Converter. It's bundled with the PSP (At least the pack that comes with the memory stick gets a CD with it, otherwise it's free from Sony with registration). What's the point of this guy reinventing the wheel?

    Info on the software is here:
    http://forum.lik-sang.com/showthread.php?t=1929

  18. Sure, this works for now... by ProppaT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure, this works for now. But Sony had the forsight to make their system flash updatable through bios updates via a wireless network or gamepack. They could go the same route that Microsoft did with the X-Box and force firmware updates when you play new games or connect to Sony's network, effectively breaking the ability to play video off a memory stick.

    Of course, there will always be "the scene" and people hacking the firmware, etc. But I would count on this ability to be broken at some point because Sony is too short sighted to use it as a marketing gimick.

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  19. Re:two things... by jawtheshark · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well, it is a niche. A small one: people that produce their music aren't that common. Besides, people that produce music try to get professional grade stuff and MiniDisc is consumer grade. It's that simple. MiniDisc was thought as a backup for Audio CD's or mixing stuff. More convenient format (before MP3).

    Besides, if my friend would have used a normal Data CD, like anyone would have, I could have copied it to MiniDisc without problems. Copying a MiniDisc itself has not much sense for music professionals, because it's not a master. I found that the DRM restrictions on MiniDisc were actually reasonable: one digtal copy. More than enough for *personal* use.

    I don't care about Britney and Co. Other music gernes still produce CD's that I can write to MiniDisc.

    My sister studies Audio-engineering. They are required to use MiniDisc for one reason: the DRM that comes with it. They are not allowed to use the recording material for their own uses, and thus the only way to take home their works is by MiniDisc. Listen: yes... copy no... Very reasonable.

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  20. Re:Not useful by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let's see a 512MB Pro Duo Memory stick can be bought for $75 or less (about the cost of 1 and a half PSP games).

    I converted a 22 minute episode of The Daily Show to PSP format MP4 using ffmpegx (Mac OS X). The file size was less than 50 MB. This works out great for my 25 minute bus ride to work.

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