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A History of Icons

John H. Doe writes "The GUIdebook has a great page illustrating the history of icons. Of course, they have the Lisa/Mac/OS X paths, but there's the Windows progressions, along with entries for NeXT, OS/2, BeOS, and yes, Linux. Would you call it progress?"

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  1. Rolling your own by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I haven't been big on designing my own Windows icons because, before I gave up looking, all icon editors cost $$. Inexplicably the one format Paint doesn't support is *.ico

    I used to have some beauties on my Amiga, and they could be any size I liked, up to the whole screen if that was your wish. IIRC they were easy to draw with something that came with the operating system.

    I'd like to take some of my raytracings and make them icons. Any ideas where to start?

    Darn my dyslexia. At first glance I thought it said "A History of Loons" and thought it was something biographical about slashdot.

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    1. Re:Rolling your own by wiredlogic · · Score: 5, Informative
      Inexplicably the one format Paint doesn't support is *.ico

      That's because the Windows .ico format is a complex meta-format with the capacity for multiple icon sizes and color depths. Paint Is just a rudimentary application like notepad and has never been the target of much improvement by MS.

      The best Windows tool for editing icons is Microangelo. There is a shareware trial version available.

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    2. Re:Rolling your own by Random+Chaos · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, I have found a few freeware ICO editing programs, but really you don't need them unless you want a multi-size icon (one that looks good in both a toolbar and in a folder).

      It turns out that Windows can read BMPs as ICOs. Just make a BMP of the right size (16x16, 32x32, or 64x64) and rename the extension from .bmp to .ico.

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      As for my most used icons: Giving all my hard disks a icon with the drive letter on it. Makes using a tool bar (I have a "goto" toolbar that links to every drive and a few important folders) easy to locate which drive is which (I only have 6 partitions/hard drives on my windows box).

    3. Re:Rolling your own by nazh · · Score: 5, Informative

      I design the icons in .png then convert them to .ico with png2ico works both on *nix and windows. You can also add several different image sizes in the icon file you make with this program.

    4. Re:Rolling your own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Use the gimp... its free and supports this format. I made my own Shuffle icon for my pc so it would look more like it does in OSX.

    5. Re:Rolling your own by yintercept · · Score: 5, Funny
      all icon editors cost $$.

      Well, when you consider all of the things that icons do, they certain are worth the money you spend on the icon editor.

      Have you ever clicked on an icon? You click on an icon and, bammo, there's a big spread sheet or email program on your screen or something. Icon editors must be complex and expensive to accomplish that. Seeing all of the amazing things icons do, it is the one software expense that the guys in purchasing will have no problem approving.

      On an unrelated note, being a manager of a large software development team, I had been wondering why you techies like Dilbert so much. I have a big informative staff meeting. Afterwards, the techies gather around to pick the Dilbert that matches the meeting. I don't get it.

    6. Re:Rolling your own by value_added · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Consistent with XP? That would mean an odd mixture of sometimes 16, sometimes 32 colours, sometimes more, and sizes in ranging (depending on the icon) from 16x16 to 48x48, each size being made available in either 16 or 32 colours or more, or all three, but not always, and depending on which .dll that particular icon is being served from, as opposed to other .dlls which contain an identical (but not always) icon.

      There was a Slashdot article posted some time ago where Steve Jobs was quoted as saying (way back when, and I paraphrase) that Bill Gates never understood the concept of design.

      Despite the overhaul made for the XP interface, much of the same crap found on NT, 2K, etc. can be found on XP, and the inconsistencies aren't limited to icon choices.

      As for the icon editor recommendation, unless it's capable of replacing the icons buried in innumerable .dlls, I don't believe it could compare favourably against any number of alternatives (Microangelo, etc.) which, thankfully, make Windows at least bearable.

      But that's just an opinion. I have otheres, of course.

  2. my favorite icon by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. Re:my favorite icon by fussili · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Dogcow's name is Clarus, it simply makes the sound "Moof" :) It's a common misconception.

  3. Full article text! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a chart of icons from various interfaces. Clicking on GUI names, section names or icons themselves will lead to the appropriate page: Options Show GUI families: Lisa Office System Mac OS NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Windows OS/2 GEOS/GeoWorks Apple II Amiga OS RISC OS BeOS Red Hat Linux QNX Solaris

  4. The more things change... by HAKdragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I can't read the article as the server is being slashdotted, I can't help feel that icons, for the most part, have stayed the same since their invention. Sure, we have icons that can be huge, have millions of colors, and have cool transparencey effects, but for the most part, Icons have remained a picture that represents an object or action. The only real innovation that I can think of when it comes to icons are ones which convey information as well as symbolize actions/items. While I'm not familiar if this exists on other icons, it's pretty easy to see on a number of iApps on OSX. For example, Mail's icon shows you how many new messages you have, iCal shows the current date, and when you're downloading files with Safari,the download icons have little progress bars on them, I love the idea of icons providing information to me realting to their particular application and hope to see that implimented more on other systems,

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  5. It's as if icons peaked 2-4 years ago by Alternate+Interior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the last handful of years, icons have started making a transformation from functional to stylish. Specifically, look at the differences between Windows 2000->XP icons, and Jaguar->Panther icons. In both cases, the Calculator icon illustrates specifically what I mean. In Jaguar and W2k, it was completly clear what the icon was. In Panther, however, the buttons became grayer, and as a result, the overall icon is less clear. The XP icon is much worse - it is not even distinctly a calculator.

    There are many more examples in the 2k->xp comparison. The address book, for instance. What was once clearly an Address book is now just an open book. The control panel, while not exactly clear in 2k, is now a Todo list! The desktop icon went from a desk with a letter in draft to a _vertical_ oriented surface.

  6. Susan Kare - Icon Artist by YorgleLlama · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you like icons, you should check out Susan Kare's page She made most of the original MacOS icons, as well as most of the original Windows icons. Lots of great pixel art.

  7. Coral links by spin2cool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How hard is it to use coral links? Editors - why aren't you automatically append ".nyud.net:8090" to any url? How hard is that, really?.

    Sigh...

    1. Re:Coral links by CylanR77 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To everyone on a corporate firewall, just suck it up.

      Either just figure out the url to the original content, stop reading slashdot at work and get some *work* done, convince your administrators/managers that you should be allowed to view content on a nonstandard port so you can spend more company time browsing the web, or leave and find a different job.

      For a website which is devoted to shoveling up information for the most elitist of all computer-literate people [including some bright individuals], you'd think that somehow, a better system could be put into place than "bomb websites with loads of traffic, indiscriminantly".

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  8. Biblical Icons by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't forget the Biblical Icons. That Golden Calf must have some pretty great raytracing and high polys to be worshipped so blatantly at the risk of utter destruction.

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  9. Re:Amiga Icons by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some interesting features of Amiga icons:
    - Arbitrary size
    - Could change image when clicked
    - Possible arbitrary placement

    This was making for some interesting applications. Like, the game Heimdall had screen high and half-screen wide icon of the character with a warhammer, when clicked the character was slamming the hammer down. I would add a tiny, 5x5px icon placing it over corner of Filemaster 2.2 icon just to launch Filemaster 2.0 in case it was needed (just like small "arrow down" in corner of "back" of Firefox)
    There were tools converting pictures to icons. You could tile icons being parts of bigger image over some area, making a "clickable image". Clicking on directory ("drawer") icon was "opening the drawer", there were also many other cool "mini-anims" like hydraulic press "compressing" the package for a compressor program, a floppy multiplying itself for file copy etc.
    Windows was a BIG step backwards from Amiga icon functionality. That step was never undone. Now all leading OSes have single-image, fixed-size icons.

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  10. Bad joke about icons (believe it or not) by sczimme · · Score: 5, Funny


    Q. Once upon a time a mouse became trapped in a Russian cathedral; how did he escape?

    A. He clicked on an icon and opened a window.

    (I can't claim credit for that one...)

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  11. Re:Google Cache by matth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why not just use mirrordot.org ?