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Anti-Piracy Bureau of Sweden Planted Evidence

American Sweden writes "Concerning the bust at the Swedish ISP Bahnhof on March 10, IDG Sweden is reporting that Bahnhof has posted their findings of an internal inspection. It seems as if the Anti-Piracy Buereau of Sweden and their infiltrator "Rouge" had a good deal of involvement in supporting the busted FTP server not only with hardware but with so called "warez" as well. The blog of Lars Backlund has a translated version of the interview conducted in the report of Bahnhof." P2PNet.net has a breakdown of the relevant details as well. From the article: "As it turns out, APB (or, rather, their hired informer) supplied the servers and uploaded copyrighted materials. So that's why they were so sure to find stuff, they put it there!"

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  1. Found _something_ by eddy · · Score: 5, Informative

    >So that's why they were so sure to find stuff, they put it there!

    Well, the fun part is that they actually did not find the stuff they were looking for (specified to the court), and IIRC, they didn't even find the servers they were looking for.

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    1. Re:Found _something_ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here are the logs of Rouge trading warez while working for APB:

      Wed Sep 1 19:11:02 2004 16 disabled 50000000 /site/console/uploads/ps2/Dynasty_Warriors_4_Empir es-USA-PS2DVD-DAGGER/dgr-dw4e.021 b _ o r rouge IND 1 disabled

      etc, etc.

  2. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, I don't disagree with you. But I feel that it would be appropriate to point out that APB is not a government organization. It's just some people that are paid by various companies, and thus APB hasn't got any more rights than anyone else here.

  3. The news from piratbyran.org... by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're saying that the hired infiltrator had retrieved and shared the most part of all games and movies released during 2004. To gain more space for all copies, the infiltrator had even bought and sent hardware for a total of SEK 20,000 ($2,800). In the beginning of March, he was supposed to send hard drives totalling at 800 GB, however the raid came in between.

    Even worse, this raid was part supported by STIM, an organization partially funded by the swedish government.

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  4. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Meaning, maybe he was a kid busted for warez, and the police offered him a deal (no jail time in return for access to the server). So the end result may be that he was working for the police, but he wasn't in fact the police.

    1) Police don't make deals. Procecutors do.

    2) Swedish procecutor's do not. It's an american practice.

    3) The guy wasn't working for law enforcement. He recived payment from the 'anti piracy bureau' which is not a law-enforcement or government agency, but rather the Swedish equivalent of the MPAA/RIAA.

    If that's the case, then I don't think the argument of planting evidence is going to work.

    Entrapment isn't legal even if the police do it. It certainly isn't legal when a private citizen does it.

  5. In what legal theory? by Kjella · · Score: 5, Informative

    a) A license (or broader: "authorization") to distribute freely, does not imply a change in its copyright status. See BSD, GPL or any other license.

    b) By default distribution and reproduction are exclusive rights of the copyright holder. Even if you legally download it (signing no license at all), none of those rights have been given to you.

    Perhaps you should read 5 of the GPL (it applies equally well to any other software without a license):

    "You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works. These actions are prohibited by law if you do not accept this License."

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  6. Rather different system... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

    Our liability figures are low here in Scandinavia, so it probably wouldn't be worth the effort by itself. Right now, this is mostly a PR disaster. It does have some very interesting criminal prosecution possibilities though, all Bahnhof needs to do is to press charges. From there the public justice system would drag APB through court, and Bahnhof would have a walk-over in civil court afterwards. That is much more common here.

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  7. Another interesting misshap made by APB. by hpj · · Score: 5, Informative
    On another note a on misshaps that the totally out of control Swedish APB has made is that they managed to put an interview with their chief legal officer with the Swedish public radio on the front page of their webpage without aquiring the rights to do so from the copyright holder (The radio station).

    For you guys who know swedish hereis an interview where the public radio calls Henrik Pontén (The APB lawyer in question previously) and ask him how they could do that. My favourite quote (Liberally translated to English): "We are currently very busy hunting pirates. I don't have time to check our webpage every day".

    /Mauritz

  8. Re:Sigh by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is no different than a vice squad planting heroin to make a bust, or detectives planting a bloody knife to frame a suspect. I don't know what the rules are like in Sweden, but I know here in Canada (and I'm pretty sure in the US as well), a judge would toss the case out.

    Looks like a 21st century version of Sergeant Norman Pilcher's campaign against rock star druggies.

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  9. Did you read... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

    ..the sig of the person you're correcting? "(...) I am a lawyer. (...)"

    Copyrights must be defended. Failing to do so means you lose your copyright.

    Copyright does not have to be defended. Patents and trademarks must be. If you are careless with your copyright *notices*, it may exempt violators from liability. However, most any software/movie etc is full of copyright notices. As long as it is clearly marked as copyrighted, nothing can undo it nor the liabilities.

    Kjella

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  10. Re:Sigh by TorKlingberg · · Score: 5, Informative
    So, we're supposed to get angry at all anti-piracy groups now because this one planted evidence?

    These are some of the members companies of the Swedish Anti-Piracy Bureau. My guess is that most anti-piracy groups are run by them.

    Buena Vista Home Entertainment
    CAPITOL FILM DISTRIBUTION
    Columbia TriStar Films
    Microsoft
    PAN Vision
    Paramount Home Entertainment
    Sandrew Metronome
    Scanbox Entertainment
    Universal Pictures
    Vivendi Universal Games
    Warner Home Video
    Universal Music
    EMI Music
    Sony Music Entertainment