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Mozilla Firefox 1.02 Released
akadruid writes "Mozilla has begun rolling the Firefox 1.02 security update. It has appeared with the little fanfare and without the staggered rollout of 1.01 - have Mozilla sorted their distribution worries?"
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Now if only they'd get going on Sunbird. I need a good calendar app.
How it is an update when it acts as a total re-install?
I love how firefox/thunderbird keep filling up my Add/Remove Programs list in XP everytime there is an "update".
Not trying to flame, but shouldn't there be a better way?
Those smily popup windows are an spyware thing not a popup thing. They are generated from within windows usually. Download and run a spyware app.
We shouldn't have to use adblock. Some sites have gotten around the blocker, and that is unacceptable (I submitted a story about it to Slashdot yesterday, but it was rejected). We want Firefox to be a better browser even for those who don't have the expertise to use things like that.
The Cheese Stands Alone.
With Bugzilla and the community, their backend that addresses security bugs is pretty tight. But why is the desktop end limited by the archaic announcement/download/install scenario? I'd prefer to accept subscription to the security bugfix channel, RSS polled every few hours or hundred pages. If it authenticated the patches, I'd get a nonmodal notification message, with "More Info" and "Always Autoapply" buttons in the window. That would make their rapid responses worthwhile. If they could upgrade in the background without slowing down my surfing, with on-demand rollbacks, I'd probably just autoupdate, looking for upgrade notices in my email.
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I can't say I've experienced this error. I just logged in and out of my 4 yahoo accounts and no problems. I don't have the abovementioned mplayer-plugin problem either.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050303 Firefox/1.0+
Downloaded binary from mozilla.org on a Debian Testing system.
> Most people are too busy USING their computer to worry about what little glitches are in a dialog in control panel that they never use.
Many people still think using "the internet" means clicking on the Explorer icon. A minor item like this doesn't help convince them to switch.
You should be uninstalling the old version before you install the new one.
which bit of autoupdate don't they get ?
i shouldnt be doing anything other than clicking an update icon,everything should be taken care of
does Microsoft say "to install SP2 you must uninstall SP1" ? so why do i have to in mozilla ?
never mind me having to disappear into advanced settings to check updates manually when in IE its on the tools menu, easy to get at if i want to check
at the moment the word to describe their update process is rubbish
Considering how long it was till 1.01 came out and how long 1.0 was out there with plently of know security holes I wouldn't exactly point to Firefox as the pinnacle for OSS security response.
And as much as a fanboy as I am for OSS I don't possibly see how you can say that OSS "can react faster to new threats than any closed source development model". OSS does indeed usually act faster than commercial software expecially when you bring something like IE into the picture. But whether something is open or closed has absolutely nothing to do with how fast the owner of the code responds to a security threat. That's on them and has zero to due with whether its open or closed. A commercial provider could have reacted just as quickly.
Again I'm all for pro-OSS statements, but let's keep it to the facts.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
Have they fixed the memory leaks in 1.0 yet?
Having an idle browser leaking 300 MB of memory per day is like a self-inflicted DOS attack.
"a definite majority of people never see the source to most programs they use."
God knows I sure don't. But that isn't the point, is it? The issue is whether enough white-hat hackers see it that a critical mass of voices is reached when security issues are found. That chorus of community concern is what informs and motivates the developers of open source software to correct security inadequacies in a timely fashion. In a closed source environment, the amount of people who know the code well enough to comment on vulnerabilities is much, much smaller. There are the people who work for the company that made the software, a very few white hats, and a bunch of black hats. When a security issue comes up in a closed source program, there aren't enough positive voices speaking on behalf of the users to alert the authors and demand change.
That is why the open source model is better for security. Not because the developers are necessarily better coders, but because they've chosen to allow their work to be reviewed by any consumer who chooses to do so.
This tagline is umop apisdn.
And if you're not running firefox with root/administrator privileges, how is that thing supposed to work?
Defenestrate Windows...
"Open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model."
Well the story IS about an update.
Those other comments you show that were modded offtopic are *bug reports*. This isn't where you go to file bug reports.
While I understand your point, I'd like to point out that Trillian isn't open source.
On a side note, K-Meleon and Trillian aren't cross-platform. I consistently put my friends and family on Firefox, Thunderbird, and Gaim, so that when they eventually move to Linux (an inevitability, I think, barring an Apple-based purchase), they'll be well-acquainted with the applications they'll use most.
The Firefox update process really sucks from an ease-of-use point of view. Since it's a complete new install, I wouldn't even call it an "update"...
For a proper update procedure, it seems you have to download the new version, uninstall the old one, and then re-install the new one - hoping that all plugins survive the procedure.
That's not user friendly, and will drive people away from Firefox, perhaps back to IE, which is definitely easier to keep up to date. I do hope that Firefox will get a true "patch" mechanism yet...
Don't whistle while you're pissing.
Isn't bashing OSS supporters for a minority of people who believe that it's invulnerable, godsent and sacrosanct a little childish and immature? However humorous and/or karma whoreish it may appear, I think it's slightly unfair to imply that anyone who believes that F/OSS has benefits over other business practices is so over-zealous.
Before you whack me back for not recognising a joke, yes I did notice the intended humour, but it's so goddamn old that it really doesn't count.
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It would be preferable for Windows to have real package management, but given that it doesn't the Firefox installer should be able to deal with an in-place upgrade itself. The fact that it doesn't is a bug in the installer, not in Windows. It's not that difficult to get right.
This is /. If you say anything which may in anyway be taken as a negitive commentary (true or not) about FF, Linux, or any F/OSS then you are a troll.
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Sorry, thats just the way it is. If you don't like it, go find another community where open free discussion of all ideas is encouraged. We don't do that here!
Two types of posts will be accepted here. 1) Flowing praise for any/all F/OSS projects or 2) Spewing hatred toward MS$. Any other ideas or discussions are strictly prohibited!
"reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.
See the little red up-arrow at the top-right of your broswer window? That means updates are available.
Slashdot is truly a shadow of its former self when they publish stories on minor releases when you can get the same information from the friggin' program itself.
Does anyone remember when they used to have really interesting stories on here? Stuff you couldn't learn about anywhere else?
Someone really should mod this original poster up -- it isn't offtopic at all! The story is about an upgrade to Firefox to cure some security-related crash issues. The poster is experiencing other crash issues. (And remember that any crash has a good chance of being a security issue).