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Tribes Franchise Quietly Strangled
Gavin Manley writes "Back in October last year, the third game in the Tribes series of first person shooters was released, published by Vivendi Universal Games (VUG). After many years of waiting and frustration, VU once again disappoints, not only by missing their market for the game again but by simply cancelling support for the game." From the article: "Now not only does this have consequences for Tribes fans, but fans of other franchises need to be worried. SWAT 4 in particular. The next SWAT game is also being produced by Irrational Games (no doubt on an equally dismal budget) and published by our good friends at VUG."
Here, it seems worse because they'd actually made at least one big gesture to the community before. Releasing Tribes and Tribes 2 for free may have been for publicity more than anything else, but it was a great decision regardless, and one that bought them some respect from me.
Shame they've just lost that.
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VUG aren't the first to cancel support for a game. I still remember the disastrous Might and Magic IX, which was released as an incredibly buggy POS. The publisher, 3DO, has promptly released a patch that increased the gameplay from 30 minutes to 2 hours before encountering the first game killing bug. They then officially abandoned support for the game, while continuing to sell it for $29.99. It ended up being just another drop in the bucket that sunk the company at the end. Let's hope VUG feels the pinch from mmaking money of unsupported software as well...
aah, nothing quite like seeing a good game series destroyed by a publisher that cares about nothing but profit. Everyone remember the tribes 2 fiasco? It went something like this:
Dynamix: Tribes 2 isn't ready, we need to delay it.
Vivendi: Release the game now.
Dynamix: It's not ready.
Vivendi: We don't care, release the game now.
Dynamix: Okay.
Vivendi: This game sucks. No ones buying it, and those who did are returning it.
Dynamix: We told you the game wasn't ready.
Vivendi: You're fired.
Aah, what a brilliant and refreshing management strategy. Is anyone really surprised that tribes 3 was a dismal failure?
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Tribes, on balance, was made measurably worse by the community.
I'm not just talking about griefers, lamers and TKers; that's universal and understandable. I'm also talking about server admins and modders. There were some fantastic mods floating about out there--well thought-out, balanced mods that made the game substantially different, better and/or cooler. There were also some decent but decidedly less-thought out mods out there, mods which nerfed heavies/snipers/pilots/etc, mods which made weapons entirely too deadly, mods which presented poorly planned, poorly executed maps, mods that futzed with physics in a way that was amusing for five minutes then tedious--you've played 'em. What's more, there were junior modders who'd take a good mod and add their own little melange of spices, spawning 'renegades' variants and the like.
All well and good, but once this got underway, it became a serious challenge to find a decent game to join. The vast majority of servers would be running some mod or other--and if you didn't know the mod, you'd get your ass handed to you on a silver platter for several hours until you learned all the various idiosyncrasies therein. Other servers required client-side downloads--a real annoyance when all you want to do is hop on a game and play. It was not uncommon to find only two or three servers running a "standard" game--and these servers would generally either be packed to capacity or dead empty.
I know it's not cool to rail on the community, but I honestly think that it played a real role in making the game less playable overall. Yes, there are tons of other factors in play--for example, Dynamix/VU could have shelled out for a couple dozen dedicated base servers. Yes, I could have S'ed the FU and run my own server (which I did for some time back in the day, by the way--admittedly with my own half-baked mod...) Yes, a number of clans did original, stunning, amazing work worthy of mountains of praise. But when it comes right down to it, I really think that Tribes as a game was hurt more than it was helped by the community at large.
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I still don't get why game developers feel like they need publishers in this day and age of ubiquitous Internet connections and BitTorrent file distribution. What the industry needs is some nonstandard (read: non-publisher) sources of capital, so that developers can make and sell games under their own judgment without being burdened by marketroid PHB know-it-alls pulling their strings. Combine this with a sales model that utilizes the Internet to get games (legally) from the developer to the consumer, and publishers suddenly become obsolete.
Maybe the folks at Vivendi are experiencing the same problem that EA identified earlier in the week - World of Warcraft is so damned popular that it wrecked everyone else's holiday sales, and is continuing to hold the interest of gamers, who continue to not buy new games. VU is certainly no stranger to this problem - Starcraft and Half-Life (Well, Countrstrike anyway), both VU distributed titles, have been biting into sales for years. Everquest has also been noted as a title that eats away at the market for years.
Perhaps the reason VU is pushing WoW so hard, both in the US and internationally, while cutting funds to other games, is that the execs have realized that VUs most successful games will continue to cannibalize other game sales, so it's better to just push on with a guaranteed cash cow.
This is a good example of why there should be some laws allowing the public to seize IP from companies to prevent it's abuse.
... it's not the cure to AIDS, it's a game. It's their property.
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I'm an avid tribes player, Tribes1/2 and some TV. The biggest problem is Sierra and Vivendi are horrible about support and management of smaller companies. They are the modern day land barons, they are buying every game franchise they can get their hands on, and killing off any competition they can.
.wav files, so you could listen to everyones special soundpack. Was on Tribalwar and Tribes planet daily reading and posting int he forums, havnt done that in over 3 years.
;) Signed Tribes Boxes
If you follow the forums for most game support you will see the developers are kept in the dark, until they are let go. This is a common trend with them. This is nothing new, they have been doing it for years. Its extremely cheap to hire 2 developers to write patches for a year, but of course, patching isnt included in the budget, so its chopped at first VP's sight.
Its sad, as Tribes was my favorite game, I watched the server count for "Base" the normal game dwindle to a couple that was always full of extremely die hard players. I even collected every sound pack I could and merged them into 1 sound pack, over 800 megs of
Tribescon was my first gamecon I went too, came in 2nd and 1st at the first 2 tribes cons. Even keep 2 signed boxes of tribes on my desk, for the 5 years I played tribes, I played almost daily. (And yes, went to work, school, and had family time..)
Simple, fun, and for a long time, no aimbots. It was on par with counterstrike in pure enjoyment and simple gameplay. Tactical operations, not sci-fi mega weapons. Smooth gameplay, and great maps.
Glad its free, I have both the freely released versions sitting on my HD, think I'll play this weekend. I urge you guys to download and play it, while the graphics of T1 isnt the greatest, it is a pure enjoyable game. T2 was the early engine that Garage games used to launch its business. And wow, how that engine has progressed. I was reading the changelog on the Developers build, the vegetation, and rendering is simple awesome.
BTW, heres whats on my desk at work, -minus the empty cups of coffee.
I thought that I would point out that most of the Tribes developers have moved onto GarageGames and the independent game development scene with the Torque Game Engine.
If you haven't checked out GarageGames or the indie games tha they develop and publish then I highly recommend that you do. There are a variety of great games available to suit anyone's needs (from your puzzle games, to your more traditional FPS ones) and they run a bunch of different OSes such as Windows, OSX and Linux. I think you would be shocked at what has been done.