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NASA's Deep Impact Moved Into Cruise Phase

karvind writes "NASA is reporting that the Deep Impact spacecraft has completed the commissioning phase of the mission and has moved into the cruise phase. Deep Impact mission planners have separated the spacecraft's flight operations into five mission phases. Cruise phase will continue until about 60 days before the encounter with comet Tempel 1 on July 4, 2005. Deep Impact has been covered on slashdot before"

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  1. Re: Deep Impact by Nevtje(hr · · Score: 5, Funny

    ok, and when are they sending up Armageddon?

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  2. Fastest non-atomic collision ever? by Toby+The+Economist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This must surely be the fastest collision of non-atomic objects engineered by the human species?

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    1. Re:Fastest non-atomic collision ever? by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Funny
      Hmm... crashing their probes into stuff?

      I see NASA has decided the best way to succeed is to go with their strengths. :p

    2. Re:Fastest non-atomic collision ever? by mike5904 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not the fastest, as Sandia National Laboratories have used one of their railguns to propel a .1 gram object at 16,000 m/s (nearly 36000 miles per hour). A spacecraft is certainly larger than that though, so perhaps the greatest kinetic energy of any such collision?

    3. Re:Fastest non-atomic collision ever? by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      They'll probably miss the comet because of metric conversion errors.

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    4. Re:Fastest non-atomic collision ever? by Andy+Gardner · · Score: 2

      Talk of fastest collisions brought to mind something i saw on the Dicovery channel which would surely be a contender for the fastest earthbound collision. The project in question is a 4 stage rocket sled that accelerates a 192lb instrument package into a concrete wall at mach 8.5. The video on the documentary was quite impressive showing the simulated warhead punch straight through about 5 meters of concrete.
      Cool picture showing shock waves produced when you can do 0-6500mph in 6 seconds.

  3. Crash by BinBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hope it doesn't crash.

    1. Re:Crash by Garion+Maki · · Score: 4, Funny

      I asume the point is that is does crash, in a planned way...

      would be funny if the one probe that is supposed to crash misses it's target and doesen't crash tho :D

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  4. Budget Travel by Toby+The+Economist · · Score: 2, Funny

    "This is your captain speaking.

    We have now reached our cruising speed of 23,000mph. We will shortly be flying into a comet, so please enter your chairs are in the upright, locked position and extinguish all smoking materials.

    Thankyou for flying EasyJet." :)

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  5. Mmm... by mfivis · · Score: 2, Funny

    At completion of the bake-out procedure, test images were taken through the HRI.

    Sound's trippy. I'll bring the snacks.

  6. Re: Deep Impact by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Funny

    To heck with Armageddon, when do I get to make Deep Impact with Leelee Sobieski?

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  7. Let's hope... by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Phase 6: The press briefing explaining why they missed.

    Isn't needed.

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  8. cruise phase? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this when the probe goes around looking for other probes of the same type to "dock" with?

  9. Gilligan's Comet by Urger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip. That started from this space port, aboard this tiny probe. The mate was a mighty sailin' man, the skipper brave and sure. Five experiments set sail that day, for a sixty day tour, a sixty day tour......... The weather started getting rough, the tiny probe was tossed. If not for the courage of the fearless crew, Deep Impace would be lost; Deep Impace would be lost. The probe smashed in to the shore of this uncharted space rock, with Gilligan, the Skipper too, the Millionaire, and his Wife, the Movie Star, the Professor and Mary Ann, here on Gilligan's Comet.

  10. Meanwhile in Springfield by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    "It's not made of atoms ???"

    Meanwhile, at the Springfield Atom Smasher.

    "Constable! Make sure to search these workers thoroughly as they leave. Make sure they don't have any atoms in their pockets!"

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  11. Exclusive images of the encounter by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's already this exclusive image of Deep Impact's encounter up on the Web.

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  12. Re:Halfassed NASA Eggheads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    uhhh, the reason for the wide range in their estimates is because the composition of the comet is largly unknown. They won't know what its made of until they smash into it and attempt to get some readings from the core of the comet. So it nearly impossible for them to attempt to calculate a reasonable size for this impact since the size of the impact will be determined by the comets composition. Thats the whole point of the mission; to find out what the comet is made of. Since the comet was made during the begining of the our solar system's creation it will give us a good insight into how our solar system was created and what type of materials are most abundant.

  13. Re:Call me cynical but by johannesg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, that would be the mission phase. The decommissioning phase is not scheduled until several microseconds later.

  14. Kinetic Energy. by aepervius · · Score: 2, Informative

    Kinetic energy is 0.5*m.v*v. I guess that the probe is at least 370Kg (3700000 more than your bullet). So to reach the same kinetic energy they only need roughly 0.0005 of the velocity, that is 8 m/s-1. I tried a quick search and found it it is 370 kilos but could not find out what the speed is, but due to relative velocity difference you can bet it is faaaar more than your bullet in KE.

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    1. Re:Kinetic Energy. by reezle · · Score: 2, Informative

      23 000 mph = 10,281.92 m / s
      KE = 1/2 (M * (V * V))
      KE = 0.5 * 370 * 10281.92 * 10281.92 = 19557807593.984 Joules (Can this be right? seems like a lot)

      The little item was 0.1 gram and 16000 m/s, so that was more like .00005*16000*16000=12800 Joules...

    2. Re:Kinetic Energy. by khallow · · Score: 4, Informative
      Incidentally, this is on the order of the kinetic energy of a fully loaded (with oil) supertanker travelling at speed. Apparently, the top speed is roughly 8.3 m/s (30 km/hr) and the mass of a fully loaded tanker can exceed 400,000 tons. So

      KE=0.5*4*10^8 kg*(8.3 m/s)^2 = 1.3 * 10^10 J.

      This is on the order of the above calculation.

      I got a slightly higher value for the velocity, but it's basically 1.035+/-bunch *10^4 m/s. KE is around 2.0*10^10 J. So you have a little more than the energy of the largest supertankers hitting a comet. Should be spectacular.

  15. Re:Halfassed NASA Eggheads? by rapidweather · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ice and dust debris will be ejected from the crater revealing the material beneath.

    No one earth other than those with proper instrumentation will "feel" the effects of the impact.

    Here's a story I ran across that would be of interest to those keeping up with "Independence Day" effects on Earth.

    One day it's a giant asteroid that will snuff out all life on earth, another day it's a "super volcano", now this.

  16. Hooray for more space exploration! by drewzhrodague · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hooray for more space exploration! I was totally rivited to the Cassini/Heugens episode, and loved seeing those pictures of Saturn's rings close-up. The resulting images from the drop to Titan had me pretty-much at the console during the whole experience. Can't wait to read about the results of the comet-smash!

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  17. Send Richard Branson by zixor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Any chance of NASA getting Richard Branson to pony up some cash, fund Deep Impact, and engage in some of his dashing-heroic schtick and pilot the thing into the comet? NASA would save some bucks, and we would be free of any future episodes of his dreadful Trump-ripoff reality show "The Billioinaire". Clearly a win-win for all of humanity.

  18. Re:I'm Not Sure... by vhogemann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which one is more likely to fail, an remote-operated robot drill, or a big hammer?

    I guess NASA chose the keep-it-simple way, they throw a big hammer on the commet and analyse the dust that will be ejected from the impact. Its way more simple than landing some robot, to rescue it after. Also, the impact will reveal deeper materials than a robot-drill could reach.

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  19. Re:I'm Not Sure... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    wouldn't it be easier to just drill a core sample from the comet?

    No.

    In the solar system frame, the comet is approaching very fast. Its aphelion is just inside Jupiter's orbit. Our probe is poking along at an Earthlike velocity in a roughly Earthlike orbit- it's the comet that's going to crash into the probe, really, not the other way around.

    To get your Black & Decker to it in one piece, you'd have to accelerate to 0 mph relative to the comet. That alone requires gravity assists off other planets. Then you need to design robotics to move around on an object with almost no gravity and a surface that can't be surveyed very well from Earth (thanks to the bright coma). You'd have to drill a hole into a material of unknown composition, in a process lasting minutes to hours rather than microseconds. That means you'll have to make decisions at certain points during the operation, requiring bug-prone programming or impractical communication links to ground-based controllers.

    Simply allowing the comet to crash into something and taking pictures of the explosion from a distance is much cheaper and more likely to work.

  20. Re:I'm Not Sure... by Bad+D.N.A. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are missions in preparation to land on a comet. We have already landed on an asteroid and a comet is no different (just as long as you choose the right one). There are good scientific reasons for both (slamming/drilling) techniques. The drilling would be more accurate for composition (assuming that NASA properly funds the experiments) and the slamming will be giving more information on the "geology" of the body. Both are valuable sources of information on these interesting occupants of our solar system.

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  21. Re:I'm Not Sure... by iamlucky13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    In addition to millionthmonkey's reply, I want to add that they're expecting a very deep hole covering a large area (potential up to 150 feet deep). There simply has been no low gravity, remote deep drilling techniques or devices developed. This will hopefully give the scientists a look at any strata that may exist within the comet, as deep as whatever is blown out. Also, the size of the crater should allow help them figure out how well bound together comets are and they will see particles blown out from a large area of the comet's surface, not just the diameter of a drill.

    A lander mission has it's own advantages, which is why some scientists want to land on a comet, as well. There's definitely an advantage in getting a lens or a sprectrograph right up against the item of interest and looking at the microscopic instead of macroscopic picture. It's also much more expensive and probably cuts down the number of reasonable targets, since you've got to match orbits with the comet.

    The asteroid landing mission another poster mentioned was easier because asteroids generally have less eccentric orbits, which means their velocity in the inner solar system will be closer to that of earth. The landing was actually a bonus feature the science team decided to try after the primary mission of orbiting, photographing and mapping the asteroid was completed, just because they thought it might work. Thanks to the low gravity, the crash/landing actually did work. Theoretically, the probe is still in good condition on the surface and can continue to return images and data, although I don't think there will be another time when it simultaneously faces the earth (for radio contact) and the sun (for power) for several years.

  22. Book your tickets to Hawaii now! by Shag · · Score: 4, Informative
    They're trying to time the collision so it will be visible from Hawaii, where Karen Meech will be coordinating observation from all these telescopes (in their respective favorite wavelengths) that night. (Technically, I think it'll still be July 3, local time.)

    This will hopefully bring to fruition the hard work of Jana and Audrey and all those other Honolulu-based astrobiology folks for whom I sometimes point this scope at comets.

    Now I just have to remember to ask way far ahead of time to be running the scope around then. Or... maybe not. Maybe I should just drive up to the visitor station and kick back with their 16-inch Meade and some popcorn.

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