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TiVo Starts Testing "Pop-up" Ads

mkraft writes "ZDNet is reporting that TiVo has started a testing a new pop-up style ad on a random and limited number of subscriber's TiVo as of this weekend. The ads are designed to be displayed on screen when the user fast forwards through specially tagged commercials. Clicking the thumbsup or select button on the TiVo remote will take the user to a menu containing more information about the advertisement (text and/or video). Unfortunately according to reports on the TiVo Community forums the ads are also showing up during actual programs as well."

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  1. So much for TiVo by maotx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing like watching a great show and having to minimize the link for the latest viagra pill with your kids.
    And to think, TiVo use to be a quality DVR...

    I guess the pressure about the ability to skip ads and their lack of revenue convinced them to take this approach.
    One would think that with the recent signing with Comcast that TiVo wouldn't have the need to pull something like this.
    Given my choice in the future I do believe I shall stick with something more like MythTV

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    1. Re:So much for TiVo by airjrdn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tell your sister to go put together a MythTV box.

      See how Tivo is still relevant?

    2. Re:So much for TiVo by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The advertisers paid for the spot?

      I also seem to have paid for the cable subscription.
      But maybe you get your cable for free, so the only way for the cable company to make money is from the advertising.

      My 50 bucks a month must be buying toilet paper, or 1 dollar bills for lighting cigars.

      I swear to god, if all this no-ff-through-commercials and advertising bullshit keeps growing, I'm gonna buy me a VHS and learn how to program the recording timers.

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    3. Re:So much for TiVo by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The advertisers payed of the spot, so they should get something.

      I don't give a rat's ass what the advertisers paid for, or what their business model is. They paid the TV networks to broadcast their ad, and that's what happened.

      If I own a TiVo, then I have paid TiVo for a digital recording device which I can use to time-shift programs and skip ads. I have not signed any sort of contract with the TV broadcasting networks, and to my knowledge, TiVo has no contract with them obligating them to prevent users from skipping their ads. If they do have any such contract, then I want no part of TiVo's service, and will look for an alternative.

      It's not my problem, or that of the DVR manufacturers, that the advertisers' business model isn't working. That's their problem. All they're paying for, and getting, is the chance at getting someone to watch their ad by broadcasting it. This does not imply any guarantee that people will actually sit there and watch it, instead of fast-forwarding past it, or even going to the crapper while it plays. Why should I pay for a device which forces me to watch ads? If the advertisers don't like this, they can go find another way of advertising.

      I think it would be interesting if they did something like this for free downloads of shows. 5-10 seconds for an image of the ads that would normally be where a commercial break is. You can pay to not have the ads.

      This would only be acceptable if they gave away the (ad-enabled) TiVos for free.

  2. Why does this not seem right? by scifience · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me get this straight: I pay for the TiVo device itself, then I pay a monthly service fee. Now I also have to put up with highly invasive advertising?

    This might be acceptable if there was no monthly fee for using the device, but this is akin to adding commercials to HBO. Either choose to be subscription-supported or advertising-supported, but not both.

    1. Re:Why does this not seem right? by mattmentecky · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good point, I mean, this is unique to Tivo, the whole mixing of subscription/advertising just doesnt happen...

      ...in magazines...
      ...on Slashdot...
      ...with DVDs...

    2. Re:Why does this not seem right? by mshiltonj · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Either choose to be subscription-supported or advertising-supported, but not both.

      Yeah, like newspapers and magazines.

  3. Tivo Users by smartin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Complain loudly and complain often. Tivo is not on the most stable ground that they can afford to piss off their user base. As soon as this starts happening on my machines i will be calling them threatening to cancel my subscription.

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    1. Re:Tivo Users by slashkitty · · Score: 4, Insightful
      calling them threatening to cancel my subscription.

      Unfortunately, I think it'll take a lot of people /actually/ cancelling their subscriptions before they get the hint. Otherwise, they just see a lot of publicity, but think that users will stay w/ tivo no matter what.

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  4. No, Tivo. No. by katsushiro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, if I allready paid for the machine, and on top of that, I'm paying a monthly fee for the service, I do *not* find it acceptable to have the service push ads at me. If you're going to be pushing ads at me, then start refunding my monthly fee. That's the way things work for me. I'm willing to pay you for your service, no problem. But I'm going to pay you in *either* cash or ads, not both. And seeing as part of the reason I got a Tivo was to skip ads, then replacing those ads with other ads is *not* acceptable to me.

    Looks like it's time to finally sit down and build that MythTV box I've been thinking about.

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  5. In other news, the sky is falling.. by raitchison · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a bunch of whiners, most of which don't even own a TiVo nor have used it for any significant length of time.

    I'm a mostly happy TiVo Subscriber, while it's a far from perfect product from a far from perfect company it is IMO the best product out there overall. Of all the commercially available DVRs out there the only one that comes close is ReplayTV. Sure a MythTV or other DIY PVR offers better control (that I would like) but is not viable for 95% of American consumers (probably a conservative estimate).

    TiVo has , and will continue to make compromises in the services they provide that while detrimental to the users have kept TiVo operational (if not profitable). ReplayTV tried to give the consumer everything and it put them into bankruptcy TWICE.

    Admittedly I've yet to see these new ads on my TiVo but as long as they don't interfere with my ability to fast forward (which it doesn't sound like they do) than my core functionality is not impacted and I'm still a happy customer. I think the number of people who find the idea of commercials patently offensive (as is the general theme from non TiVo owning people rushing to decry this) is small compared to the number who won't care what's on the screen while they FF as long as they can get back to the O.C. in 10 seconds.

  6. Re:Yeah, its disguisting by Ioldanach · · Score: 4, Insightful
    They're assuming (rightly so I'd think) that most of the people watching that show are women.

    Good Eats is, as far as I'm concerned, hands down the best cooking show on TV. Basically cooking for geeks, and I can think of no reason why demographics would target it to females in particular. Its a great show for either gender.

    But demographics aside, why would an ad pop up during the actual content of the show? That's just absurd!

  7. Re:Why does this not seem right? Everywhere... by garett_spencley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yup, I'm currently boycotting movie theaters because of this.

    I remember in the late 80's or early 90's it was either the first or second 'new' Batman movie with Michael Keaton. They had an advertisement for Coke at the beginning. It was even themed for the movie and people were OUTRAGED. For the next 10 years or so there were no more attempts that I remember to do non-movie commercials before movies.

    Man how times have changed.. and fast.

    But, unfortunately, I don't think our wallets are very loud in these cases. Movie theaters, television, music etc. is all teenager domain.. and I don't see teenagers boycotting any form of entertainment any time soon. Even advertisements are 'cool' for teenagers these days. As long as teenagers are buying up movie tickets and chugging down ad after ad without complaining then it's here to stay :(

  8. Re:Well, that seals it. by jayhawk88 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, because your cable company is a pillar of virtuous marketing techniques and would NEVER try something like this.

    I know this is the straw on the camel for you and you have other reasons for switching, but trust me, you'll be seeing these again inside of 6 months.

  9. Re:Sign up now for "How to kill your product 101" by TexTex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trends like these are all over the place in advertising. There's an initial horrid reaction of the disgust and intolerance. And then, people just move on and get used to it. You become numb to the advertising...

    Remember when previews were the first thing on a movie screen? Now...I watch advertising for local companies the entire time before the projector even starts. And then, I get about 5 minutes of movie-sized commercials before the previews. This is for a movie I've already paid $10 to go see.

    Video games have become saturated with product placement and music singles. Games used to use generic descriptions and canned music.

    Entire television shows are dedicated to selling products. The real-life business opportunities for The Apprentice candidates are paid advertising bought buy those companies. A few million bucks and your product gets a 30-minute show based around having people promote and sell your brand. It's reality TV mixed with an infomercial, but people flock to season after season of it.

    Does anyone even notice the corner ads in the entire Comcast menu guide anymore? Any time you change the channel or browse the listings, you're hit with an ad.

    It's all stuff we've learned to ignore. Tivo seems to be no exception to the trends and over time, we'll block that out as well. A vicious cycle...but one which will continue unless companies aren't interested in making more money than they did last year.

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