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Gamer Slain Over Virtual Property Dispute

cibe writes "A Shanghai online game player has stabbed to death a competitor who sold his cyber-sword. Qiu Chengwei, 41, stabbed competitor Zhu Caoyuan repeatedly in the chest after he was told Zhu had sold his "dragon sabre", used in the popular online game Legend of Mir 3, the newspaper said a Shanghai court was told yesterday. Qiu and a friend jointly won their weapon last February, and lent it to Zhu who then sold it for 7,200 yuan ($A1,129)." Update: 03/30 21:15 GMT by Z : More commentary available on Game Girl Advance.

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  1. Whole slew of legal issues. by dubiousx99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They also have an article about this over at Yahoo. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=58 3&e=5&u=/nm/20050330/od_nm/life_china_sabre_dc The article states that the police refused to do anything for the theft victim because the item wasn't real. Why don't we consider these things real? You can be assured that of a hacker deletes/steals files from a corporation or government entity the police would consider this a real crime. Where do you draw the line?

  2. Re:Before we all claim he's nuts... by Ayaress · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like I posted above, in this case, the guy may not even have equated the vitual property with real property. He lent somebody else the sword, who then sold it for a large sum of money. $800 is a lot of money, and people have been killed over smaller sums. It'd be nice to know how this would have played out, say, if the sword was lost or looted rather than sold. In that case, the sword is lost, but that's it. The killer may have been angry or annoyed, but I doubt he would have killed for it. But selling it, there's more at stake than just a digital sword. There's been a violation of trust, you lent somebody something and they betrayed you, and there's also now around $800 USD in the mix.

  3. Re:That gentleman needs help by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think this is a good case that highlights online gaming addiction and how it needs to be classified as a disease.
    I agree that gaming addiction is out of control. But this has nothing to do with that. People kill each other for all kinds of stupid reasons. Hundreds of people (mostly women) die every year at the hands of a current or former domestic partner. People die because somebody thought they were rude, or objected to their style of dress. Homicidal rage is a pathology looking for an excuse.

    An imaginary sword is a stupid thing to get killed over -- but it's glib to dismiss it as unimportant because it's imaginary. The guy put a lot of effort into winning it, and somebody was willing to pay a lot of money to "possess" it. Absurd, if you're not a gamer, but not more absurd than paying six figures for some obscure collectible -- and that happens every day.

  4. Re:Crazy by blueZhift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad really. If they could have settled their dispute online in some fashion, they'd both still be alive and free. Sigh...

  5. $869.76... and hours and hours and hours by JavaRob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and people who are totally innocent of any kind of theft (virtual or otherwise) are killed over *much* less money, every day. For example (quick google...), $15.

    Yes, it's stupid to kill someone over a virtual sword... just like it's stupid to kill someone over practically anything. But it's *very* easy to understand why the guy might have been furious enough to do something stupid. He was stabbing someone who intentionally ripped him off, and made a lot of money out of it. It's pretty easy to understand why he was mad -- it's not a real sword, but that sure is real money, real entertainment value, and probably a huge time investment getting the sword in the first place that were lost in an instant.

    Virtual worlds are not my cup of tea... but I can imagine the feeling of not having any backups of my hobby programming work for 3 months, foolishly lending my computer to a friend for a day... and finding that he'd sold it. I'm not saying I'd start stabbing... but it wouldn't be the computer value I'd care about. Are you going to tell me all that work is only "virtual" property, and I shouldn't worry about it?

  6. Re:Legend of Mir 3? by prator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That sounds like the general chat of every MMO I've ever played.

    -prator