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Record Low Turnout in Debian Leadership Election

daria42 writes "A record low voter turnout - highlighted by the fact that two-thirds of the candidates have not yet cast their ballot - is marring the Debian Project's ongoing elections for the Debian Project Leader position. Project secretary Manoj Srivastava said yesterday: "At the time of writing, half an hour into the second week of the vote, we have the lowest participation ever in a Debian project leader election seen so far"."

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  1. Re:What have all the Debian users moved to? by xgamer04 · · Score: 3, Informative

    MEPIS, Ubuntu, Xandros? All three are based on Debian and a bit easier to use.

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  2. Much of the energy has gone to Ubuntu... by meldroc · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ubuntu's like Debian, except it has regular release cycles, up-to-date software and a thriving community. And it is based on Debian - so in effect it is Debian, only better.

    http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ Try it, you'll like it. Much of Debian's developers are working on Ubuntu - you'll see them in Ubuntu's IRC channels, forums, mailing lists, etc.

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  3. Re:Maybe by gold23 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This vote is not open to the public -- just to Debian developers. So I am guessing they are all aware of the election.

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  4. Re:I know why... by Kimos · · Score: 5, Informative

    I care. So does anyone looking for a comprehensive and stable distribution of Linux!

    I was trying to decide which distro to install for a friend's wife who, and I quote, wants "Linux on my computer because I'm sick of Windows crashing!" I was going to pick one of the more colorful and intuitive distros for her, even though I use Debian myself. Package management is obviously important. I'd like to direct her to RPMs or something rather than going over there to compile from source. Much had changed since I last looked a couple years ago:

    1. SuSE: Gone and re-branded as Novel Linux Desktop. Now it's all tailored for business.
    2. Mandrake: Used to be my second choice, but now you have to pay to get most of the enticing features included. Three CDs for free version, and six CDs for paid version.
    3. Linspire: Free unless you want to use the built in package management system. Then you have to pay for it.
    4. Red Hat: Gone. I hear Fedora Core is good. Nice that they gave us the free version, but it doesn't have near the support or attention that Red Hat does.
    5. Slackware: Going strong. Great distro. Package management? Nope...

    The truth is that Debian is still totally free and offers the strongest package management out there. Anyone who actually uses Linux, no matter what distro, understands that Debian is important.

  5. Re:I know why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    It sounds like you might not be aware of some of the amazing work being done with smaller dists. Mepis is my personal fave, being based of Debian (apt-get goodness) but with lots of shiny stuff added also. Best of all, it comes on a live CD, so you can try it before installing. Knoppix and Ubuntu are popular also.

  6. Re:I know why... by Albanach · · Score: 3, Informative
    SuSE: Gone and re-branded as Novel Linux Desktop. Now it's all tailored for business.

    Strange, there was a link to this article on the front page of /. about two weeks ago. To quote

    SuSE Linux Professional is geared for desktop computer tasks such as word processing, programming or playing digital videos. And Novell hopes Windows users wanting to breathe new life into older computers will be interested.

    SuSE Linux Professional 9.3 also adds the Linphone software for voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP); the Firefox Web browser; and the F-Spot photo organizer software. And it comes with the latest versions of graphical interface software, Gnome 2.10 and KDE 3.4.

    That doesn't sound all tailored for business - not that it's not suitable for business, but SuSE Pro remains a fantastic all round distro, with a guaranteed two year shelf life and a huge selection of packagaes. Novell have a preview of what will be included in SuSE 9.3 here
  7. In-N-Out grows despite never-changing menu... by wernst · · Score: 4, Informative
    That's silly. Quality frequently lends itself to a good business model even without expansion.

    In-N-Out Buger's menu consists of *nothing* but burgers, fries, and shakes, all of the highest quality...

  8. Re:One Meaning: by lewp · · Score: 5, Informative

    No. The goal of the Debian Project is to build an OS. It happens that the way their project works actually makes it great as a base for building other distros, but AFAIK that's not their stated goal (and it's not what their website says).

    If that's changed over the last few years, well, I've been away :).

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  9. Re:I know why... by matthewn · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. SuSE: Gone and re-branded as Novel Linux Desktop. Now it's all tailored for business.
    Wrong. SuSE and NLD remain separate product lines for now. SuSE 9.3 is on the horizon.
    3. Linspire: Free unless you want to use the built in package management system. Then you have to pay for it.
    Untrue. There ain't nothin' free about Linspire. You have to pay for the box, then pay yearly for package management and updates. They have a LiveCD, but as far as I know, it is not installable.
  10. Or, we could read the article... by Bonhamme+Richard · · Score: 5, Informative

    only 199 of 960 active developers had voted -- well down on the 315 who had cast ballots at the same stage last year.

  11. Re:The tyranny of the majority hurts Debian by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Informative

    I agree, unfortunately. I've seen some packages that just have no business being released - the original packager threw something together in 10 minutes then went AWOL and ignored all the bug reports.

    eg. Bug 280859. The packager forgot to package the runtime library FFS. 138 days old. Unfixed.

    There's just no quality control on the packages, and that brings the whole distro down.

    I had one instance where some clown had packaged a dev package so that it pulled in most of gnome 2. The library wasn't GUI related, the include files definately weren't GUI related... it was down to one optional binary that few people used anyway... I suggested weakening this to 'suggests' as it made the library essentially unusable to me (since to compile my app people would have had to install 50MB of junk) and just a got torrent of abuse back from the maintainer telling me I was 'stupid' for not having gnome (on my headless fileserver with no X).

    Couple that with the X debacle (where debian is usually 6-12 months behind in releases, even in unstable) and I'm really looking for something better... unfortunately there are few other server distros out there (especially not using apt, which I wouldn't do without having tried others).

  12. Um... by xeno-cat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thats:

    apt-get install vote

    Ya Gentoo freak! ;-)

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  13. Re:One Meaning: by Jay+Carlson · · Score: 3, Informative

    A big part of the problem is that they guy that a *lot* of users and developers would like to see run didn't...Long live Overfiend.

    What are you talking about? Branden's running.

  14. Debian Fastest Growing by mverwijs · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please, people: stop the panic. T'was only one year ago that Debian was the "fastest growing distribution"[1] according to the almighty Netcraft.

    And all of a sudden it's dying?

    Please....

    Kind regards...

    Maarten

    [1] http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/01/28/debia n_fastest_growing_linux_distribution.html