> But the relative complexity of the installation process,....
Funny story.
My first job in IT was for Cistron Internet Services in the Netherlands. They were one of the first ISP's in NL. And had a few Debian developers working there. They had built this CD-Rom that, when inserted into your Windows 9x PC would autorun some installer that would setup your dial-in modem and stuff. Since the diskspace on the CD-rom was about 99% unused, they also included a complete copy of the first disc of Debian. Which was worth it's weight in gold at the time. I think it was Slink-1-and-a-half, but it could be Potato.
Now, this was a bootable CD, for obvious reasons.
I was on the helpdesk at the time. I had 2 new customers a year that would phone up and ask how they should proceed onto the internet now that they had finished the installer. After talking to them a few minutes I realized that they had actually managed to fully install Debian. They had rebooted their PC for some reason, with the bootable CD in it. They had managed to re-partition their drives, enter root passwords, enter user details, completely installing the whole shebang. They were looking at a Debian login screen and wondering how to proceed now. And then, and only then, did they bother to call the helpdesk as they couldn't figure out what to do next.
These were not tech-savvy people. These were small business owners that wanted to see what was up with that whole internet thing. And yet they managed that in 2001 and
Every time I hear someone say 'the $Distro installer is complicated', it brings back a fond memory of great times at Cistron. So thanks for that.
Kindly,
mverwijs
Ps: Cistron ADSL will come to YOUR area within two weeks! Really!
FYI, a newborn requires feeding every 3 hours, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for the first two months of their life. After about 8 or 9 weeks, if you are lucky, your child will (hopefully!) sleep for 5 to 6 hours at a time, so Mom can finally start getting more than 3 hours of sleep then.
It's even worse, since you forgot the actual feeding time.
A newborn requires feeding every 3 hours, where 3 hours is the time since the start of the last feed. In other words: if a newborn is a slow drinker/feeder and takes up to (or over!) an hour for a full feed, Mom now only has 2 hours to herself.
On a sidenote: I never thought I'd be writing this type of comment. Especiallly on/.. Ain't life grand!
The title reads 'should know how to code'. Not 'should code'.
The difference is, imho, that if one understands code it stops being a black box. Even if it *is* a black box. That understanding will help you debug many problems faster. It's another tool in the toolbox.
But if you're happy with your hammer, then by all means, hammer away!
Just 'apt-get install sslh', have it run on port 443. It will forward HTTPS traffic to your apache server running on whatever port you run it on, while forwarding ssh traffic to sshd.
From the (bottom) comment(s): " Also, this has nothing to do with GNOME Shell – the maximisation behaviour is specified by individual applications." -Allan
So you openly admit the machine IS NOT YOURS. You are essentially keeping them from their own machine, which I find unethical. I can't blame them for taking matters into their own hand and rebooting the system into single-user mode and locking you out until you play nice.
Stop being a jerk and cooperate with the owners of the machine you are renting or take your data elsewhere.
Simply because they own the property does not give them the right to invade your privacy. There is still the illusion of privacy here, right?
BTW I still stand behind the principle that having IE with Windows is not anti-competative. If that were the case then Red Hat, Apple OS, and others would be anti-competative for having an browser pre-installed in their systems.
Repeat after me: Different Rules Apply To Monopolies.
If you're uncomfortable with images of mothers offering food to children, how about turning of the tele^W^W^W^W surfing to another website? You don't *have* to look, you know.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes. Drop POTS. Drop it and make it Public Domain. See what happens when you give us a little infra to build on.
http://hubic.com/
Solved.
-- /. is now http://soylentnews.org/
My
Please provide links and citations as they are not in an obvious place on the website of elementaryos.org.
I have been using it for the past 3 months and other than a fine smooth desktop experience, I have yet to come across any of those issues you mention.
NFS works just fine. Underneath it's Ubuntu 12.04. If it does not work properly on Elementary, please.
> Unplug! The Darter UltraThin is designed for over five hours of continuous
> work or play on the go.
I do not understand how this is worth mentioning. At least not without being followed by 'Sorry about that'.
The only reason for me to have a laptop is to be able to have it work constantly, for at least 8 hours a day. Preferably longer.
5 Hours. Yagh. Might as well not ship with a battery at all.
How about regulating both water and clean air.
You know. For profi^Wthe children.
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=dwm
0.64% of Debian users have this package installed, according to popcon.
Hardly a crowd.
Yes but in the case of getting sidetracked at work, the activity you're being sidetracked into is much more likely to also be work related.
The subject of the interruption matters nothing to the deadline not made.
> But the relative complexity of the installation process,....
Funny story.
My first job in IT was for Cistron Internet Services in the Netherlands. They were one of the first ISP's in NL. And had a few Debian developers working there. They had built this CD-Rom that, when inserted into your Windows 9x PC would autorun some installer that would setup your dial-in modem and stuff. Since the diskspace on the CD-rom was about 99% unused, they also included a complete copy of the first disc of Debian. Which was worth it's weight in gold at the time. I think it was Slink-1-and-a-half, but it could be Potato.
Now, this was a bootable CD, for obvious reasons.
I was on the helpdesk at the time. I had 2 new customers a year that would phone up and ask how they should proceed onto the internet now that they had finished the installer. After talking to them a few minutes I realized that they had actually managed to fully install Debian. They had rebooted their PC for some reason, with the bootable CD in it. They had managed to re-partition their drives, enter root passwords, enter user details, completely installing the whole shebang. They were looking at a Debian login screen and wondering how to proceed now. And then, and only then, did they bother to call the helpdesk as they couldn't figure out what to do next.
These were not tech-savvy people. These were small business owners that wanted to see what was up with that whole internet thing. And yet they managed that in 2001 and
Every time I hear someone say 'the $Distro installer is complicated', it brings back a fond memory of great times at Cistron. So thanks for that.
Kindly,
mverwijs
Ps: Cistron ADSL will come to YOUR area within two weeks! Really!
FYI, a newborn requires feeding every 3 hours, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for the first two months of their life. After about 8 or 9 weeks, if you are lucky, your child will (hopefully!) sleep for 5 to 6 hours at a time, so Mom can finally start getting more than 3 hours of sleep then.
It's even worse, since you forgot the actual feeding time.
A newborn requires feeding every 3 hours, where 3 hours is the time since the start of the last feed. In other words: if a newborn is a slow drinker/feeder and takes up to (or over!) an hour for a full feed, Mom now only has 2 hours to herself.
On a sidenote: I never thought I'd be writing this type of comment. Especiallly on /.. Ain't life grand!
The title reads 'should know how to code'. Not 'should code'.
The difference is, imho, that if one understands code it stops being a black box. Even if it *is* a black box. That understanding will help you debug many problems faster. It's another tool in the toolbox.
But if you're happy with your hammer, then by all means, hammer away!
I've been using these for the last few months: http://is.gd/AdiF8o
Affordable (especially second hand. Little over 30 euros.) Adjustable. And they double as chairs!
sslh for the win!
Just 'apt-get install sslh', have it run on port 443. It will forward HTTPS traffic to your apache server running on whatever port you run it on, while forwarding ssh traffic to sshd.
It's just.... beautiful.
Don't forget the knife-finger-rolling.
From the (bottom) comment(s): " Also, this has nothing to do with GNOME Shell – the maximisation behaviour is specified by individual applications." -Allan
This is what truly worries me.
I'm guessing the main haters are sysadmins...
And that is exactly the chasm of the "us" and "them" attitude that the DevOps folks (IMHO) are trying to bridge. Thank you for your fine example, sir.
> Take your turf war elsewhere guys and let me have my integration.
You *are* the turf in their war, dude.
So you openly admit the machine IS NOT YOURS. You are essentially keeping them from their own machine, which I find unethical. I can't blame them for taking matters into their own hand and rebooting the system into single-user mode and locking you out until you play nice.
Stop being a jerk and cooperate with the owners of the machine you are renting or take your data elsewhere.
Simply because they own the property does not give them the right to invade your privacy. There is still the illusion of privacy here, right?
I was gonna say: "Why, oh dear Novel, why did you abandon iFolder?!", but it appears it has been granted a third life:
http://ifolder.com/ifolder
You were babysit^Wadministrating a Windows 95 machine in 2007?! Yikes!
I think that this is exactly what StackOverflow.com is intended to be.
A community driven wiki enabled forum catering a specific group of people (programmers, in this case).
Take a look at Joel's talk at Google on the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWHfY_lvKIQ
BTW I still stand behind the principle that having IE with Windows is not anti-competative. If that were the case then Red Hat, Apple OS, and others would be anti-competative for having an browser pre-installed in their systems.
Repeat after me: Different Rules Apply To Monopolies.
Sheeesh... every damn time.
Last update to software in 2005 according to http://ruqueue.rutgers.edu/download/.
That would be a dealbreaker to me.
http://www.hdd-shredder.com/index_en.php
Not cheap. But neat!!!!
It amazes me that this has to be spelled out, but thank you for doing so.
If you're uncomfortable with images of mothers offering food to children, how about turning of the tele^W^W^W^W surfing to another website? You don't *have* to look, you know.