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Geeks as the Media at Notacon

sinnergy writes "One of the Midwest's only remaining "hacker" cons, Notacon, will be happening April 8-10, 2005 in Cleveland. As an interesting subtext, an extraordinary amount of interest in independent media coverage for this event has been occurring. One project includes Jason Scott's Notacon Radio project. The Packet Sniffers are doing their own Notacon TV project. In addition, numerous other online media outlets, oline radio shows and bloggers have really picked up on the idea of events like these being truly valuable to the geek community. Even the local geek radio show is keen on the idea. Richard Thieme, one of the event's selected speakers, has promoted the hacker con as being one of the final bastions of open speech. Is this the birth of a new trend or is this simply geeks doing what they always do... spreading the word about something new and different going on in their world?"

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  1. Looking forward to it! by stephthegeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Shameless plug, I know, but I'll be speaking at NotACon on some of the more interesting aspects of the community I run, and other geeky pursuits. I'm betting this will be a huge opportunity to connect with others with similar interests.

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    1. Re:Looking forward to it! by jx100 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Slashdot doesn't seem to allow anchors in links.

      Here is a link to the page itself. You'll have to go to her actual blurb yourself.

    2. Re:Looking forward to it! by the_mad_poster · · Score: 3, Informative
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    3. Re:Looking forward to it! by IrishMASMS · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know, some of us who are presenting [http://www.notacon.org/speakers.html#irishmasms] are willing to do so without the shameless plugs... ;)

    4. Re:Looking forward to it! by stephthegeek · · Score: 3, Funny

      I can only dream of achieving such subtlety! ;)

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  2. latter by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Is this the birth of a new trend or is this simply geeks doing what they always do... spreading the word about something new and different going on in their world?"

    The latter. Next!

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  3. Getting it right. by kwoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Frankly, it doesn't surprise me that attendees are acting as media for such an event. The alternative is expecting the mainstream press to get it right.

    I look forward to seeing what the "geek media" comes up with.

  4. Don't click above link by Godman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't click the link...it opens about a billion and two popups. None of them have anything, its just annoying.

    If you do get trapped, ctrl+alt+del and then end task firefox. (Or whatever your webrowser is)

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  5. Since when... by /dev/trash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is CLEVELAND the Midwest?

    1. Re:Since when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Since the 19th century.

  6. Cleveland hacks! by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny
    All this bandwidth calling me
    Back where it comes from
    It's such a d00d attitude
    Let's hack where it belongs
    All the script kids growing up on the skids are goin' Cleveland hacks, cleveland hacks
    They're all jackin' in with an old 9-pin
    They're goin' cleveland hacks, cleveland hacks...

    0hi0!

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    1. Re:Cleveland hacks! by wolrahnaes · · Score: 3, Funny

      As a Clevelander (well, actually west of Medina, but close enough), I just had to laugh at that one...

      Dammit....now I'm imagining an episode of the Drew Carey show subtitled in 13375p34|.....

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  7. only remaining by Compenguin · · Score: 2, Informative

    > "One of the Midwest's only remaining 'hacker' cons..."

    What!!!

    It was new last year

    1. Re:only remaining by sinnergy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would assume five since Rubi-Con 5 occurred. We were there, I think.

  8. My Pics from Notacon 2004 by phiz187 · · Score: 2
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  9. Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone else find the tone of this intro really amusing?

    "Media giving unprecedented coverage to something you've never heard of"

    Hmmm

  10. Hacker or Cracker? by VoidWraith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't tell what is meant by the quotated use of "hacker" in the summary. Do they mean "hacker" which they could have used without the quotes, or do they mean "cracker" which explains the quotes but doesn't explain why they didn't just use the word?

  11. Oh my by alex413x · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hello Slashdot! NotaconTV needs bandwidth! If you will be attending and can bring a [large] 100MB switch and/or CAT5 to the con we will hit you up with free schwag! Contact us at contact[@]packetsniffers.org Thanks![packetsniffers.org]

    Wow, a gathering of pot-headed computer geeks sharing ideas and interests. I wish I could go.

  12. NotaconTV needs help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi everyone. I posted a message on our site and figured I'd also post here. We need network hardware to sustain our efforts at NotaconTV. The organizers of Notacon are willing to let us ride on their supplied hardline and wifi, however we will be asked to remove our server if/when we start to cause bandwidth problems (And rightfully so). As such, I feel we will probably be removed from the network early in the event. We are looking to see if anyone would be able to supply us with a largish 100MB switch and/or cat5 for the event. Please contact us at [contact at packetsniffers.org ].

    Thanks!
    dosman

  13. Pricey, but with mpeethree recordings?! by Caffeinebot · · Score: 3, Informative

    In our college (about two hours from Cleveland) there was talk on taking a pilgermage for this event, however the exorbant price (atleast for students) on entrance made us pause and think against it (even the pre-registration was a tad pricey). It is unfortunate that they removed the option for student discounts, it would be more condusive to learning for local colleges students who could actually attend with out having to pay an arm and a leg, but still want to get a foot hold into the industry. However, the recordings should really be cool!

  14. Re:My Pictures from Notacon 2004 by phiz187 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is that a dare?

    -PHiZ

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  15. Internet Going to Hell? by UnkyHerb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow, not only is aol instant messanger hacked so that I cannot get on, but a huge obtrusive microsoft ad is right on the top of this story, and its a flash file with sound. That is the first ad I've encountered on /. with sound, and I'ts a Microsoft one? Shame on you!

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  16. NotACon blew last year. It BLEW. by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Informative

    I went to NotACon last year, and was very much unimpressed with it. It was small, obviously operating on a shoestring budget, and generally unprofessional. Last year I felt ripped off for paying to get in. The speakers they had presenting weren't all that knowledgable about their topics in most cases, had no polish or presentation skills, and their equipment setup as often as not wasn't working as intended, and the printed schedule of events was completely wrong. I'd go in to hear someone talk about a topic that I was interested in, and something completely different would be going on in the room, and then I'd ask someone and find out that the speaker I wanted to hear either canceled or was rescheduled for an earlier time and I'd missed them. I hope they've improved things for this year, but I won't be going to find out.

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  17. Don't Forget... by technomancer68 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't forget Defcon which will be occurring in Las Vegas, Nevada, July 29-31, 2005. http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-13/dc13-index.ht ml

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  18. "Final bastion of open speech"? Gimme a break... by sirwired · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...one of the event's selected speakers, has promoted the hacker con as being one of the final bastions of open speech. Is this the birth of a new trend or is this simply geeks doing what they always do... spreading the word about something new and different going on in their world?"

    Guys, this is a hacker con, not Babylon 5 brought to life... "Birth of a new trend"? Um, it's shameless PR, and it isn't unique to geeks.

    SirWired

  19. Re:What the hell are you talking about? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I expected, for the $50 or so I paid to get in:

    - Competent, knowledgable speakers. There might have been a few, but most of what I saw was amateur. The self-professed "military technology history expert" who maybe was 14 years old and obviously had no actual military service record takes the boobie prize.
    - Presentations that didn't suck. (Maybe you should test whether your laptop can talk to the projector BEFORE the presentation begins!)
    - A published, printed schedule that was accurate. And if they had to change the schedule, quit disseminating the outdated schedule!

    After about 5-6 hours of this lameness, I got fed up and walked out. I wish I knew the person who organized it so I could punch him. For $5, it might have been an OK time, but for $50 I felt like I got conned by NotACon.

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  20. Re:What the hell are you talking about? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, I'll give you the one on the military technology. That one was pretty much sucked. However, wasn't that one of the few backup speakers?

    That's the thing. I didn't go there to see that speaker. That's what I ended up seeing, because something else that I DID want to see wasn't happening when it was supposed to.

    You were there 5 or 6 hours... huh... it sounds like you gave it a really fair shot.

    At that point, I'd seen enough. I couldn't tell when anything was supposed to happen, and all indications were that whoever put this together had zero experience with organizing an event. Why should I continue to waste my time putting up with that kind of bullshit?

    And the threats of physical abuse? Talk about unprofessional.

    I don't like to mix business with pleasure, and punching the organizers would have definitely been pleasure. So OF COURSE I'm unprofessional. Charging people $50 for admission and then giving them SHIT is also unprofessional.

    If you expect to be given then the world on a silver platter for FIVE BUCKS, you are sadly, sadly mistaken my friend. Heck, I don't know how I'd put on something like it for 5 bucks a head.

    Well, you start by stripping your bedsheets and using them as projection screens for your presenters, most of whom were selected by walking down the hall of your dorm at college and saying, "Hey anyone want to give a talk on some kind of technology that they know something about?" Then you put up a web site that makes it look like you're professional, competent, maybe even cutting edge. Rent out a convention room at a Holiday Inn, and sell enough tickets to cover expenses. Seriously, I would have been disappointed if my ticket HAD cost $5, but I wouldn't have been pissed off. But for 10x that much, I feel robbed. Wanting to punch someone who robs you is understandable, isn't it?

    But, the rest of it, I mean, come on. A/V problems are endemic to any event such as this.

    Not if the people putting it together plan, prepare, and do some basic testing. If you go to a professionally produced presentation, it's fucking slick. If you go to some half-assed amateur bullshit hour, you get endemic problems. A/V tech is easy enough, if you're a supposed 1337 haxor you shouldn't be having problems getting a laptop to talk to a DLP.

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