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High Accuracy Indoor Location Tracking?
aletterman asks: "I am looking for technology that can allow my company to track the position of a fork lift as it moves around a warehouse. This would allow us to factor out one problem situation - where the lift was when the driver dropped off the product. Based on the width of our warehouse locations, we need a resolution of about +-1ft. Standard GPS can't get that accurate or work well indoors. The fork lifts already have a VT220 terminal running 802.11b, so adding another device would not be difficult. I am currently looking at a product that can triangulate via the RSSI of the 802.11b network, but I am concerned the changes in the product mix and density of the corrugated boxes will change the RSSI and introduce a mis-positioning of the locations. I would prefer that the device transmit a position either serially or via our 802.11b network. Our warehouses are fairly large (300,000+ sqft) and have a large of amount of corrugated boxes. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!"
Paint a grid on the floor, with squares of 1 sq. ft., possibly with magnetic paint, and install cameras or magnetic sensors to sense the lines passing underneath. Add a compass or rotational sensor to help determine the orientation. Add some maths, stir, and you might just have something that might work. (Or not...)
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Place optical encoders on the left and right front or rear wheels of the fork lift, so that it knows its delta position based on dead reconning. (about 1mm resolution)
Add 'bar codes' that run the width of the major isles, and point optical encoders downward on the fork lift so that as it drives over them, it can 'reset' its position and eliminate any errors that build up while using dead reconing.
Try to place them so that the fork lift is expected to run over a bar code every 5-15 minutes or so (depends on errors that you measure in encoder accuracy, and the resolution that you need).
Hook them up to a PIC that kicks out the counters for dead reconing as well as any known location events via serial to your computer on which the 802.11b is located. An AVR butterfly will do the job.
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Is that anything like one guy shouting out 'Marco' and the fork lift driver shouting 'Polo!' ?
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I dunno if the product you're looking at can handle this, but in principle, just because three points of reference theoretically allows a perfect calculation doesn't mean you can't add more to provide greater resolution in an error-prone environment.
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A slightly more expensive solution. I have little idea how accurate it is from the few specs listed, but... Pretty lights... That's got to be important right?
Look into the technology used by the NHL on Fox for making the hockey puck more visible to the home viewers.
Here is an oversimplified diagram, but enough to get you pointed in the right direction.
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It's a bit more labor intensive, but i think it's the more sensible solution.
Each location (shelf/floor area) has a tag, RFID or iButton would both work i think. Each item/pallette has a similar tag. When dropping an item off he scans them both in with a mobile reader, uploaded to central, linking the two in a database.
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Money is stored in cassettes in a fully automatic warehouse. The actual warehouse uses an automatic system, (if you have seen a storage robot, it isn't a whole lot different). However money is shipped from the loading/unloading dock to the procssing stations and then from the processing stations to the warehouse loading/unloading station using robot forklifts.
The forklift control system was German, but I can't remember whose. They used a pulsed transmission system and used the arrival time for navigation. The main control computer knew where the forklifts were to the centimetre and gave them orders.
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Embed RFID tags in the floor. Put an RFID reader underneath the forklift. Have it report back over 802.11b with the RFID tag number(s) that it is closest to.
I know a lot of forklifts or other equipment sometimes have a flashing light on top. Could you do something similar, like have a bright light on top of the forklift (and if you have multiple forklifts, each could have a different color light), and have a few video cameras mounted on the ceiling. Every second or so a screencapture program could read a frame from each camera and scan it for the color of the light.
That might cause a problem with employees and their clothing, so you could even use two lights on a forklift, each a different color, so one lift is identified by red and green, or maybe several lights so it shows up as a large blob, bigger than any employee. You won't have to worry about echo or other problems that come from a radio signal in a large warehouse (which is probably made of metal).
Forklifts in warehouses can be difficult creatures. In the summer when I don't have school, I work at a place where sometimes I need to drive a forklift with flat, solid tires on a wet, greasy floor. It's a bit like ice skating at times, so determining the speed of the forklift could be quite difficult.
This is what you need: the "Bat Ultrasonic Location System", developed at ATT Cambridge labs (former).
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Take heart---the problem you're contemplating has been fairly well studied.
I remember a professor here at CMU saying that you could do localization for forklifts by pointing a camera at the floor. Most warehouse floors have enough scratches and marks on them that as you wander around, you can get a pretty good idea of where you are by comparing them to a map (using techniques like Monte Carlo localization---google it!). Combined with encoders on the forklift wheels, you may be able to get the resolution you need.
Here is a paper describing technology like this. In the results they say they get accuracy down to a millimeter.
So, those talking about painting a grid on the floor have the right idea---but perhaps you don't even have to do that!
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centimeter accuracy using indoor differential gps
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http://www.gpsworld.com/gpsworld/article/articleD
So the person running the forklift would know where to place items and where to go for their next pickup.
If you just look at the highlighted words you first get the requirement "track position forklift warehouse" So he wants to know where the forklifts are in a warehouse. Okay. But WHY?
Second set of words is "where driver dropped product. Ah. I was wondering. Who gives a toss where the forklift is? Oh I worked in enough warehouses to know they are sometimes a pain to find if people don't return them or use them as a portable chair to take their break outside BUT it would be cheaper just to buy another one then set up a tracking system.
So we just got a case of a user making it not very clear what he wants. All of the answers so far have focused on trying to keep track of the forklift. Some intresting solutions and some stupid ones (measuring wheel spin on a forklift forgets that these things slip OFTEN).
However none of you have so far questioned why he wants to do this NOR wondered if this was indeed the real requirement.
More likely he wants to keep tracks of the goods. In practice goods are often misplaced in warehouses. If something is in the wrong rack it can be a pain to find it. Or worse you only notice it when the wrong thing is sent to the customer because items were mixed up.
IF this is the real problem, tracking goods, then all the given solutions are at best incomplete and at worst totally and utterly wrong to a degree that explains why so many it projects are overtime and overbudget.
But surely knowing the location of the forklift whill help tracking goods? Nope. Why? Because there is no way to track were an item was dropped by the forklift. Why not? What if the forklift operator drops of his pallet for a moment to shift another pallet out of his way? What if he takes the contents of a pallet off to put them on another pallet?
Basically this has to do with warehouse procedures that aren't followed or don't match the real situation. Ideally every storage place in a warehouse should have a unique identifier. Each storage place is catogorized as to what it can contain. Every item coming in FITS inside the storage place (not 1 item requiring two spaces OR 2 items going into the same space). At receiving the computer assigns an empty storage space. The forklift operator then takes the item to the required location and stores it. Ideally you want some kind of system to verify this BUT in real live all you need is good employees and good managers who allow each other to do their jobs.
If this system is followed then no goods will go missing. Problem is that this often doesn't happen. Neither does it seem to happen in the posters warehouse. If the forklift operators kept track off where they dropped items off OR dropped them off at the pre-assigned location then things wouldn't go missing.
Sadly he seems to go for a tech solution. Nice but it won't work unless he shifts his attention from the forklifts to the items. They are the ones missing in action.
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