Mac OS X Tiger Goes Gold

Let's not forget by Bones3D_mac · 2005-03-31 15:14 · Score: 5, Interesting

Apple was founded on an April Fools Day, so this would really be an anniversary event.

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expect... by igny · 2005-03-31 15:14 · Score: 5, Insightful

shortage of mac minis in the coming weeks

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Re:expect... by As+Seen+On+TV · 2005-03-31 17:05 · Score: 5, Insightful

Actually, any product that's listed as "same day" is over stocked. Apple's supply-chain management is very tight. The company does not intend for products to sit on shelves waiting for orders to come in. A 2-3 day shipping window is what the company shoots for. If the product can ship the same day, that means orders have been slower than anticipated.

I ... um ... have no idea what relevance this might have on anything. But I thought you might find it interesting.

Fast! by CypherXero · 2005-03-31 15:15 · Score: 5, Funny

Yesterday:
Apple will sometimes seed several final candidate builds before one is declared gold master...'"

Today:
Tiger build 8A428 has been deemed the Gold Master for shipping

Damn that was fast! I can't believe I miss those builds!

Re:pearpc by Anonymous Coward · 2005-03-31 15:20 · Score: 5, Funny

That's okay, you can still use CherryOS!

Re:They can't go on like this, can they? by superrcat · 2005-03-31 15:21 · Score: 5, Funny

Garfield.

and it's already a bestseller... by QuantGuy · 2005-03-31 15:29 · Score: 5, Interesting

...acccording to Amazon. It's the top Amazon software and electronics item, which is pretty amazing considering it's outselling TurboTax and the iPod.

I ordered mine already, of course...

Apple's OS upgrade past performance by amichalo · 2005-03-31 15:32 · Score: 5, Informative

In the past, when Apple has upgraded their OS versions, they have done the following:
(1) customers who purchased a new Mac 30 days (the exchange peroid) before the announcement get a free upgrade CD in the mail (or at an Apple Store perhaps?)
(2) new Macs being built come with the new OS on the hard drive image from the factory.
(3) computers in inventory get their boxes sliced open and a new OS upgrade CD (DVD?) dropped in. This disk requires the install drive to have an OS on it already, so it is not the same as what comes on the boxed OS CD.

I have also read other reports from people who got a free iLife upgrade because of (1) having that CD dropped in their Macs as a separate disk, not the OS and iLife on a single disk.

This may usher in the era of Mac OS missing iTunes/iPhoto/iMovie/iDVD/Garageband on the same CD - thus reinforcing the concept of iLife as an application suite and the OS as a standalone product. Don't look for these new iLife apps on the Tiger install CDs purchased from the store. (But as always, new Macs come with Mac OS and iLife as well as Quicken.)

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Re:They can't go on like this, can they? by superrcat · 2005-03-31 15:34 · Score: 5, Funny

Fine...Pussy Galore.

Beware this 'Tiger' release! by Anonymous Coward · 2005-03-31 15:45 · Score: 5, Funny

**** THE PROOF THAT TIGER IS EVIL **** T I G E R 84 73 71 69 82 - as ASCII values 3 1 8 6 1 - digits added \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ 3 1 8 6 1 - digits added Thus, "TIGER" is 31861. Subtract 97 from the number - this is the year Vesuvius erupted, written backwards. It gives 31764. Add 0791 to it - this is the year IBM announced S/370, written backwards - you will get 32555. Subtract 38, the symbol of slavery. The result will be 32517. Add 1983, the year Microsoft introduced Windows 1.0 - the result is 34500. Turn the number backwards, and add 1778 - the year Oliver Pollock invented '$', the symbol of exploitation, suffering and injustice. The number is now 2321. This, when read backwards, gives 1232. This is 666 in octal, the number of the Beast... Evil, QED. ( http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/evilfinder/ef.shtml )

Automator by jay-be-em · 2005-03-31 15:45 · Score: 5, Interesting

Automator has to be one of the coolest things I've seen in a gui.. ever.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/automator.html

It looks like Apple has finally found an elegant way to make a GUI accomplish tasks like these faster than I could at a bash prompt.

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Re:They can't go on like this, can they? by ztirffritz · 2005-03-31 15:59 · Score: 5, Funny

I'm holding out for Egyptian Hairless. Once they have mac mini with Egyptian Hairless installed, I'm buying 2!

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Re:They can't go on like this, can they? by ArsonPanda · 2005-03-31 16:00 · Score: 5, Funny

+5 Funny?
only time Garfield has *ever* been funny.

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Re:expect... No, they DO ask it all the time by dirkstoop · 2005-03-31 16:32 · Score: 5, Insightful

Au contraire,

The number one question asked by 'the archetypical mini-buyer' - and of course the tons of other people that ask for a mini who sometimes have some similarity with this mythical person - is 'Will I get Tiger for free when I but my mini now?'

The archetypical mac-mini switcher (subset of a-mm-buyer) is not the complete computer-n00b we would all love to go out and buy a mac, only because then we might actually get to benchmarks the actual stand-by time of our mobile phones, that type of user still uses the windows pc they've had for years because they don't care about computers, don't read the articles about them in the press, skip conversations about computers in social events because they're biased to think they won't understand any of it anyway and are thereby still highly unaware of the other options out there besides using their windows 95 OSR 2 box with 16 megs of ram till death.

The typical switcher we get - I work in a big Apple Centre in the Netherlands - is the slightly geeky guy on a budget. The type that cares a bit above average about computers, never used Linux because they couldn't figure out how to install it in the amount of time they wanted to commit themselves to it and besides that just mature enough to be tempted by the idea that *it* might JustWork(TM)

-- above passage not intended as linux-is-too-difficult-for-'normal'-people-flame-b ait but merely to describe the type of user whe're talking about here--

The second most important typical mini-buyer is the user that already has -at least one- mac, looking for an extra machine to fulfill some specific task(s) , or unable to resist the mac mini coolness factor and getting one while not having the faintest clue why they would need it, or to replace for instance a dying iMac they've been using as a file- and print-server on a budget or likewise

Besides that, all the linux-geeks I know either want one, already have one or don't need one since they've gotten themselves an iBook. but that's not such a large part of the people we get in our store.

All of those categories of customers actually care *a lot* about whether or not Tiger will be included with their minimac.

PS: I'm not in sales but in tech support, so I might miss a few of those potential customers..

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Re:April 1st announcement by StikyPad · 2005-03-31 16:34 · Score: 5, Funny

B.S.

I was born in '76, and my 30th birthday isn't for another year damnit. Don't steal what little youth I have left.

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Re:Yeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!! by MasonMcD · 2005-03-31 16:58 · Score: 5, Funny

I love the current skin

Skin? SKIN?!!! OK, you gnome/KDE hippie. Apple doesn't make "skins". They produce "human interface guidelines" and bond the UI onto an app so tight it'll make your anus pucker.

Unless you're talking about human skin from any "trade dress" lawsuit. In which case, they make lovely lampshades.

Build numbers by warkda+rrior · 2005-03-31 17:11 · Score: 5, Funny

... Tiger build 8A428...

Think about this: if the build number is in hex (i.e. 0x8A428), this is the 566,312nd build of Tiger.

Now, about 18 months passed since the release of OSX 10.3. This means that Apple built OSX Tiger about 42 times per hour, without stop since Oct. 2003 (OSX 10.3 release time)!

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Re:Build numbers by Anonymous Coward · 2005-03-31 18:03 · Score: 5, Informative

The build numbers don't work that way. Here's a little table with some examples: MacOS X version Darwin kernel version Build 10.2.0 6.0.0 6Annn 10.2.1 6.1.0 10.3.0 7.0.0 7Annn 10.3.8 7.8.0 7U16 (what I'm running right now) 10.4.0 8.0.0 8A428 The first digit of the build number is always equal to the Darwin kernel's major version number. The next position is a single alpha character which Apple uses to distinguish different lines of development on that major revision of the OS. The first release will always be an 'A'. If the first branch they make is to add drivers for a new computer, that build series will get 'B', the next branch gets 'C' and so forth. The two major kinds of branch that I know about are for updates (10.3.0 -> 10.3.1 etc.) and for new hardware support. Finally you get to the actual build number, which is simply a boring old decimal number. So 8A428 actually means it's the first (and probably currently only) branch of 10.4 with 8.x.x series Darwin kernels, and it's at its 428th build.

Re:expect... No, they DO ask it all the time by jargoone · 2005-03-31 17:36 · Score: 5, Insightful

The typical switcher we get - I work in a big Apple Centre in the Netherlands - is the slightly geeky guy on a budget. The type that cares a bit above average about computers, never used Linux because they couldn't figure out how to install it in the amount of time they wanted to commit themselves to it and besides that just mature enough to be tempted by the idea that *it* might JustWork(TM)

You have a good view, but let me give you a data point. I'm a Linux sysadmin by day. My "server" at home runs Linux. My desktops at home run sort of Windows by necessity: one is for my wife, the other is my laptop that I need to use with a Centrino wireless card, and VPN for work. I know that I could "train" my wife to use Linux. I also know that I could get my finicky laptop to work. Point is, I don't want to. By the time I get home, I don't feel like it.

From reading (mostly on /.), I'm about to switch. I want a machine that will allow my wife and I to use with sessions running simultaneously. I want mail and printing and scanning to work right. I want Bluetooth syncing to our phones and my wife's Tungsten to work. I want to be able to use my iPod, and my digital camera, and edit videos. I want it to all be integrated, and I want it to, yes, "just work".

I mess around with things enough at work and home. When I want to play, I have plenty of things to play with. But I want something that I don't have to think about unless I want to. I don't want to have to edit a single god damn configuration file to accomplish the above tasks. Is the Mac the right answer? I think it might be. But if it's not, that's okay. I can go back to the old way, and when I do, I'll sell the Mac for damn near what I paid for it.

I never thought I would be this way. But I've reached a time in my life where I have less patience and willingness to sacrifice free time. I also have lots more money. That's why I'm giving it a shot.

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