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Scientists Weigh Smallest Mass Ever

PaSTE writes "From the article, 'US scientists have managed to measure the mass of a cluster of xenon atoms at just a few billionths of a trillionth of a gram - or a few zeptograms. The record measurement is in the mass range of individual protein molecules, and the detection was made using sensitive scales developed at Caltech.' Another big leap forward for nanotechnology."

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  1. As my Dad would say by Stonan · · Score: 4, Funny

    As big as a dimple on a pimple on a fly's left nut.

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    1. Re:As my Dad would say by mboverload · · Score: 4, Funny

      Scientist Bill: We have weighed nanoparticles
      Scientist Steve: YEAH! F**K YEAH!
      CEO: So?
      Scientist Bill: Because it's awesome!
      CEO: We spent 240 million dollars to weigh things we can't even see?
      Scientist Bill: *drunk* Yeah, I know, thats so...trippy...
      CEO:Does this bring us any closer to nanobots?
      Scientist Steve: Nope
      CEO: You're fired
      Scientist Bill: I guess this is the time to tell you I did your wife...

    2. Re:As my Dad would say by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Scientist Steve: Woooooh! Developers, developers, developers..
      Scientist Bill: Quiet, Steve..

  2. first dupe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    first dupe!

  3. shock horror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They weigh less than the Olson Twins!

  4. Real by ajs · · Score: 2, Informative

    Article pointed to is from the 30th, two days ago, so it's not A.F. fodder.

  5. But can they weight.... by The-Perl-CD-Bookshel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kate Moss?

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    1. Re:But can they weight.... by jam244 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but the numbers only make sense in units of Olsen Twins

  6. Real-Fat Atoms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "'US scientists have managed to measure the mass of a cluster of xenon atoms at just a few billionths of a trillionth of a gram - or a few zeptograms. The record measurement is in the mass range of individual protein molecules, and the detection was made using sensitive scales developed at Caltech.' Another big leap forward for nanotechnology.""

    Just what the world needs. Weight conscious atoms.

  7. A related article by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A related article from less than 24 hours ago covers another use of the nanomechanical scale developed at Caltech. This article is not exactly a dupe because it talks about a different application of the same scale.

  8. RTFA...this is NOT A joke. by Mr_eX9 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This was posted on BBC on March 30.

  9. 1 zeptogram = 2.20462262 × 10-24 pounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    just in case NASA are reading

    1. Re:1 zeptogram = 2.20462262 × 10-24 pounds by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "just in case NASA are reading"

      Ack! How many NASAs are there??!?

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    2. Re:1 zeptogram = 2.20462262 × 10-24 pounds by GretaGarbo · · Score: 3, Informative

      In British English groups of people (organizations, corportations, etc.) are referred to in the plural.

    3. Re:1 zeptogram = 2.20462262 × 10-24 pounds by pmc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Almost - it depends on the context:

      "The Board is the highest decision-making body in the company."

      and

      "The Board are split on the issue."

      See Economist Style Guide for the details.

  10. Let's separate fact from trolls... by agraupe · · Score: 5, Funny

    A lot of people here are saying that "omg it's taco's penis". Let me explain something to these people: for something to have a mass (even if it is exceptionally small) it is first required that it exists. Since this has not been proven satisfactorily, I will say that it is probably taco's brain, which is obviously present (because he keeps posting stories), however very very small.

  11. A few xenon atoms.. Whoppie-doo by Enrique1218 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The smallest mass ever measured would have to go to the electron. However, the measurement does not involve a scale but rather manipulation of electric fields. Moreover, scientists have shown that nuetrinos do in fact have mass (previously thought to be massless) and soon it will be the smallest mass ever measured

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    1. Re:A few xenon atoms.. Whoppie-doo by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think they mean DIRECTLY measured.

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  12. Well this help get rid of physical kilogram? by Eunuch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they could take the cylinder they have now and weigh with enough precision, Avogadro's number would be known and the kilogram would no longer be tied to a physical object.

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    1. Re:Well this help get rid of physical kilogram? by UlfGabe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Avagadroes number is known.

      A#~=6.02x10^23 molecules per mol.

      weighing out the stuff will still require a standardized mass as electrons,protons, and neutrons all have different masses.

      you simply cannot say,

      Egads! there are 0452803598204499410100100 molecules in this sample.

      you would still have to find out the number of different elementary particles.

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  13. Boycott reality on April 1st by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wish people wouldn't post, you know, real stories on April 1st. Boycott reality for a day. It causes confusion.

    1. Re:Boycott reality on April 1st by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 5, Funny

      I boycott reality every day. It's called Everquest.

  14. Shiny Steel by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny


    The best thing about nanotechnology is that it seems to require exotic industrial gases, cryogenics and stainless piping and pressure vessels and stuff. Woo-hoo, I've got an automatic in!

  15. The obvious follow-up question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this quark make me look fat?

  16. Re:American Icon Troll by ari_j · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The thing that pisses me off about it is that some fuckers in Washington and Florida (and probably elsewhere with less outgoing news coverage) got votes out of this woman.

  17. Re:The truth... by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

    "It weighs more than Bush's brain."

    Tee hee giggle snort. Uh huh.

    If you're going to try for a funny, try soemthing where people have to figure it out. Example:

    "Mr. Bush was pleased to find that science could finally measure what makes him such a strong leader!"

    Okay, not all that funny, but at least it leaves a little more to the imagination. :P

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  18. Re:So at last... by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, you can replace that with just about anybody famous or not, and chances are somebody will agree with you. That doesn't stop you from being incredibly not funny.

    [disclaimer] I am rather liberal, and dislike GWB as much as any leftist man. But come ON people. Harding was MUCH dumber than GWB. You know, mister "You'll have to ask my advisor about that tax thing. There was a book about this tax thing which was supposed to explain it to be, but hell, i don't understand the book!"

  19. Smallest Mass Ever?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This isn't the smallest mass ever measured, if it's anything it might be the smallest mass ever measured with something that's essientially mechanical.
    Usually people use different tools when it comes to measuring things with masses in this range - a mass spectrometer for example .
    As for measuring really light things using the change in frequency of something that's vibrating that's not new ... http://www.vetscite.org/publish/items/000305/ And what about physists who come up with masses for the fundamental particles??

  20. Some more info by karvind · · Score: 5, Informative

    Professor Roukes' homepage has a link to his earlier published paper on attogram mass detection (2004). The abstract mentions that mass sensing of individual molecules will be realizable with optimized NEMS devices. Also there is link to paper which discusses the ultimate limit to mass sensing based on NEMS. Needless to say that so far it is not the physics of these nanostructures but the extrinsic amplifier noise which limited the measurement.

  21. Or, in layman's terms... by errxn · · Score: 2

    ...the approximate weight of the average /.er's "little black book."

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  22. Great by Xerp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thanks for that. Now my girlfriend has a new target weight to reach by next April.

    *sigh*

  23. Re:Photons are massless by NarrMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A photon not "in transit" makes no sense. They have zero-rest mass, which doesn't say much, because they are never at rest. However, although they are massless, the do have momentum, determined by this equation.

    p=h*f/c

    h = is Plank's constant, f= frequency of the photon, and c = speed of light. Since h and c are constants, then the only thing the photon exchanges to transfer momentum is frequency. Weird.

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  24. Weigh? by TeknoHog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By looking at the change in resonance frequency, they are measuring the mass, not the weight. Therefore the results are the same on any planet, space station, etc. But can you call this procedure weighing?-)

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  25. "the mass range of individual protein molecules" by glwtta · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Or is it?

    Let's see, the smallest protein product I can find at the moment is NP_871795, a splice variant of C. elegans gene "thioredoxin H", encoding just seven amino acids: MTIYFTV, it weighs in at about 870 daltons (the full gene is 12.5 kD), which is just around the claimed "a few zeptograms" - 1.45 to be more precise.

    Looks like for once the irrelevant biological reference is at least accurate. (for reference, the largest product is NP_787974 in drosophila: 2451.35 kilodaltons).

    Maybe I'm not getting it, but I don't quite see the medical application of this. Many of the most common techniques in proteomics and molecular biology are based around measuring the weight of proteins (and other molecules), I don't know what benefits direct measurement would add. Unless it were cheaper or less labor intensive, which this doesn't sound like it is.

    I'm guessing they just wanted to get the word "cancer" in there somewhere.

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