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VIA Epia SP 13000 Review

Nehemiah writes "Epiacenter.com just published a review on the brand-new VIA Epia SP 13000 mini-itx mainboard. It's the first VIA Epia board with the CN400 chipset and, together with the new epiOS Linux distribution that is announced in the review, it seems to have a very good performance during MPEG2/MPEG4 playback."

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  1. Re:Is this the best you can do? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    proscribe, 1: To denounce or condemn.

    Here's a quick hint for you, don't use words you can't spell. Maybe you meant to say prescribe, to set down as a rule or guide; enjoin, to order the use of (a medicine or other treatment).

    Now that I've gotten that over with: Mac minis are expensive and proprietary. The memory is not even a user-serviceable part, in terms of your warranty. (Look it up!) The ONLY good thing about it is the cool form factor. It has very limited expansion (even down to having only 1 1394 port) and is only $499 with the most limited hardware and no peripherals. If you want a machine for the looks, buy a mini. However, most of the software that most people want to run out there runs either on Linux, in which case there is no benefit to the Mini beyond the aesthetic, or on Windows, in which case the Mini can't help you.

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  2. Legacy Ports by stupidcomputers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why oh why on these new small form factor devices do they insist on keeping legacy ports such as serial or the old PS2 style mouse and keyboard? Either make it small and get rid of them or put something useful such as firewire there instead.

    1. Re:Legacy Ports by Bradee-oh! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I use standard DB9 rs232 ports as well as parallel ports for all sorts of testing, debugging, and even deployment applications. I've deployed epia boards in energy management systems more than once utilitizing the serial and parallel ports.

      Yes i know that you get get usb->serial converters and usb->parallel converters. And for notebook/desktop applications that makes sense. However these boards are obiously not mainstream. They are often used for development/prototyping and for low power applications. The needs for that market are different.

      At least that's my take on it. I for one am glad to see not EVERYONE is going "legacy free."

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    2. Re:Legacy Ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because embedded systems use a lot of legacy hardware! How many industrial devices have you seen that used the firewire that you mentioned? I work full-time with embedded systems, and I've never seen one. Serial is still king.

      We build about 20 different products using the Via EPIA CL ITX motherboards, and on every single one of them, we use four RS232 serial ports and the parallel port. The OS, like a lot of real-time OS's, we use doesn't support USB keyboards so we have to use PS/2-style keyboards. If you want to remain compatible with PC software, you must have a normal keyboard port.

      To put it a different way, the embedded world revolves around interfaces that don't change.

  3. Re:Because... by forkazoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, obviously, different folks will want to see different benchmarks, but how many people concerned with SPEC, Linpack, or Doom3 are even in the target market for this type of system? Seriously, the only useful benchmark is whatever you want to do with a system. Anything else is just bragging rights. Since a lot of people want to play media on these systems, media playback is a logical benchmark.

  4. Re:ADDITIONAL INFORMATION by winkydink · · Score: 2, Insightful

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  5. Re:Mac Mini vs EPIA by dublin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Careful. The drive in the mini is not rated for continuous use. It's a notebook drive, so you should run it as little as possible. (It's rated for many sleep/wake cycles, but not continuous use).

    Horseapples! Where are you getting this stuff? Notebook drives are tougher in every way than their desktop counterparts - they have to be. I suppose that some super-cheap notebook drives that aren't rated for continuous use may exist, but I'm not aware of any, and that certainly doesn't apply to the reputable brands. I've got several tiny little servers that have been running laptop drives for years with no problems. (One's an Epson "cash register" 486, another's a Toshiba Libretto 50J, and others are even stranger.)

    And although hard disks aren't my specialty, I know more than a little about them, having been a program manager for both Latitude and Inspiron at Dell, and spinning up a company to build high performance storage-over-IP solutions based on high-end commodity RAID controllers a few years ago. The only real downside to Notebook disks is their relatively slow transfer speeds, since the disk mfrs for unfathomable reasons don't put serious controllers on the notbook mechanisms for a year or two. In many cases (especially if you're RAIDING them) this is more than made up for by their lower seek times - the heads don't have to move very far, and because they're smaller and less massive, they respond quicker.

    I'm looking at building a custom small, low-power, super reliable RAID array for a client right now, and I'm actually looking even smaller - at the 1.8" mechanisms like the ones in a lot of the new MP3 players. The result will be *far* more reliable than any desktop drive could ever be - I could not possibly neet this customer's requirements with desktop drive hardware...

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  6. Re:Mac Mini vs EPIA by realkiwi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    CLE266 does not do MPEG 2 decoding it does MPEG 2 acceleration.

    I am about to begin work on a ubuntu derivative that has CLE266 support built in. Hang out on the unichrome list for more help on getting your working.

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  7. Re:What's the fanless obsession anyhow? by quintesse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It might be one tiny fan but I assure you that if it sits below your TV if you use it as a media center you _will_ notice the noise it makes (unless you only see action movies of course ;-)

  8. Re:What's the fanless obsession anyhow? by cpghost · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the fanless obsession were really more widespread, it would put pressure on CPU makers to invent better heat dissipation mechanisms, and to generate less heat in the first place!

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