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Jon Johansen Interviewed

wuzfuzzy writes "Depending on your point of view, Jon Lech Johansen is either your hero or adversary. To the copyright industry, Jon Lech Johansen has been a detriment to their policy of control since the advent of DeCSS (Decrypt Content Scrambling System.) To those who cherish freedom, he has been a pillar of hope in an age when DRM (Digital Rights Management) threatens to overtake mainstream media. After two trials, the courts finally ruled in Jon's favor. However, there is much more to Jon Lech Johansen than DeCSS. In this interview, Slyck hopes to bring to light the many facets of Mr. Johansen, and the numerous projects he is involved with."

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  1. Reasonable by n9uxu8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seems a reasonable enough feller. I thought the university comment was quite interesting.

  2. Turn up the heat gently by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the interview:

    People who claim that the iTMS DRM is a "good compromise" have naively bought into the impending doom propaganda.

    He has a point - the DRM that comes with iTunes is already creeping up in restrictions from the point at which you first agreed to it. Perhaps you should take another look and think again if it is really worth it to you?

    I remember all the comments here about how no one would buy anything with DRM attached... but then it turns out that yes, most of Slashdot indeed would buy it willingly. How very dissapointing.

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    1. Re:Turn up the heat gently by calibanDNS · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just to be clear, a lot of us who use iTMS do remove the DRM from the files. There have been numerous projects that have popped up to do this since iTMS launched and there probably will continue to be. If Apple ever manages to implement a DRM scheme that no one can get around losslessly then you can be damn sure I'll stop buying from them. Is what I'm doing a violation of the TOS? Absolutely. But I am not pirating music; I am buying a license to listen to a song and upholding my right to listen to it when, where, and how I want. So long as I'm not distributing the material, I don't see a problem with that.

    2. Re:Turn up the heat gently by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      He has a point - the DRM that comes with iTunes is already creeping up in restrictions from the point at which you first agreed to it. Perhaps you should take another look and think again if it is really worth it to you?

      The initial versions of iTunes and iTMS had the barest minimum of DRM required to keep the RIAA happy. It was all trivially breakable and Apple's attitude was essentially "We're trying to make it easy on you, so try to behave, huh?" And every 1337 h4xor like Johansen instantly broke everything they could, and Apple has been tightening and tightening ever since.

      Now the "turn up the heat gently" crowd will tell me that that was Apple's plan all along, that Johansen and the other dipshits had nothing to do it and that they've heroically saved me from a lifetime of servitude in Steve's wine cellar. Maybe. But we'll never know now, right?

    3. Re:Turn up the heat gently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Out of curiousity, what programs can be used now to remove DRM from iTunes purchased music? I recently tried Hymn, and it did not work.

      I am using Windows 2003 though, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

    4. Re:Turn up the heat gently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If Apple ever manages to implement a DRM scheme that no one can get around losslessly then you can be damn sure I'll stop buying from them.

      But it's too late. Apple started out with specific restrictions. Lots of people bought music from them. Then Apple added further restrictions retroactively. Those people that agreed to the original set of restrictions weren't given any say in the matter - they had the option of capitulating, throwing away their legitimately bought music, or breaking the law (DMCA in the USA).

      Are today's restrictions reasonable? Perhaps. But what guarantee do we have that Apple won't retroactively change the contract again without our say-so? It already happened once.

  3. hmm by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the most interesting thing he's done recently in my opinion was hacking the VC-1 codec from SMPTE into VLC. Something that provides real hope for linux and mac users trying to view WMV9 encoded video content

    not to belittle the rest of his accomplishments, but I feel this one has the greatest possible advantage in legitimate terms

  4. Re:Thanks Jon, I appreciate your work! by kevin_conaway · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Aren't you required to view the FBI copyright warning?

  5. Re:Thanks Jon, I appreciate your work! by nkh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll go further: any DVD I buy is ripped and burned as a backup with menus and dubbing removed. Menus can actually be worse than advertisment when they are too long and prevents you from changing the settings while watching the movie.

  6. Re:Thanks Jon, I appreciate your work! by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because it's not a feature, it's something that is specifically disabled.

    The point isn't that they should be required to or not, the point is that MY RIGHT to view the content how I want should be absolute. I shouldn't be committing a crime by not wanting to watch some segment of a video I BOUGHT.

  7. Re:Melodrama in submission? by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why should tracks I buy from an online music store be more restrictive in what I can do with them than ones that come on red book Audio CDs?

    That's a good question. Perhaps you would like to start an online business offering just that. Tell us how that negotiation with the RIAA goes.

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  8. Re:Stolen CCS key ? by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, I think the question he is asking is if we are going to use the word "stealing", then this brings in the concept of "property". Well, Ok, if it's property -- what kind of property is it?

    Is the key an invention, that could be covered by a patent? No.

    Is the key an expression, that could be covered by copyright? No.

    What the key is, is a secret. Unless there is some specific law, secrets can be "stolen" in a vernacular sense but it's not legally theft. Secrets are not property. Trade secerts are sometimes referred to as "intellectual property", but they aren't really treated as property except by those who contractually agree to treat them so.

    That said, this is in part because the law hasn't caught up to the last century, much less this one. For example most people believe that individuals have a kind of proprietary interest to confidential information about themselves. The idea of people trafficking in confidential information about them without their knowledge or consent seems to them a violation of privacy rights. But there is, at least in the US, no legal recognition of any such rights, which makes identity "theft" so easy. It's sophistry to say that because something is legally not property, that it cannot be stolen. When people say "stealing" in this situation, they are talking about misappropriating or misusing something that you have no moral right to.

    Personally, I think that a person who duly pays for a DVD should be able to play any place he wants and any time he wants. It's like my old leftie uncle Ivan used to say years and years ago: "Kid, nobody really believes in capitalism, nobody believes in socialism. It's socialism for me, capitalism for you." The replace "capitalism" and "socialism" with "free trade", and it's still true. If workers have to compete in the global market for wages, they should benefit from price competition too.

    So, I think that breaking CSS is the right thing to do. But not because you can't steal what isn't legally property. It's because accessing something that is completely within your rights isn't stealing in any sense of the word.

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  9. Re:can you blame him? by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So what. I wrote an entire BBS when I was 12 [going on 13 at the time] in pascal while teaching myself C, I was reading TAOCP and understanding quite a bit at age 17 ...

    By 2002 [when I hit 20] my LibTomCrypt library had already international attention behind it. I've since traveled the to europe twice, been to california twice on various work related contracts because of the attention I got.

    He's not the only kid with "neato hobbies".

    What makes him so special is he got sued. I'm sure if RSA or something tried to sue me that would make me "uber slashdot cool" and you know what... I'd still go to college.

    Cuz despite all the bitching and moaning you do learn things. Sure a good 30% or so of my teachers were clueless, but you still pick up things you wouldn't on your own in an unstructured environment.

    Does JJ know calculus? Alegbra? Chemistry? Literature? ... these are all things you do in high school and college.

    Sure you can teach yourself math [for instance] but the likelyhood of missing key concepts is much higher [and it takes longer to learn the basics in my experience with crypto for instance...].

    If anything he should have leveraged his fame to get scholarships or something. At least that would be productive...

    Tom

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  10. Re:Thanks Jon, I appreciate your work! by michrech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Before you go off on me, yes they are similar, in that you buy a movie in a format that is chosen by someone else. You can't control the previews, nor can you control the commercials.

    This is where you are wrong.

    I can control them via not purchasing them. If enough of us had the self control/will power to do the same, things WILL change. Especially if you voice your view/position to those that own the theater.

    I have not been to a movie theater in around a year because of the forced previews and commercials (well, mainly the commercials -- I like seeing what movies are coming up, but some people may not).

    As for your rant about purchasing a license to view a movie, not the movie itself. There is no written agreement in the packaging or displayed on screen (even accessable via the DVD's menu!) that states what my rights are with regards to how I view the movie. The ONLY agreement displayed is that I may not rent it out myself, charge others to see it, or copy and distribute it to anyone. PERIOD.

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  11. Re:Thanks Jon, I appreciate your work! by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're doing it wrong. It's not the media that's preventing you from fast-forwarding, it's the player.

    The media tells the player "you *should* not allow FF here", but it's up to the player to comply or not - thou I haven't seen one that allows you not to comply, I know my current sony won't, and it's a PITA!

  12. Another interesting facet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is this. Now what do you think about him? An asshole? That's what I thought.

    Joe Connard

  13. You can always skip the intro stuff.... by Rageon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. Put in movie, wait until it queues up 2. Press Stop 3. Wait 3 seconds 4. Press Stop again 5. Press Play 6. Movie will begin at 00:00:00 Problem solved. Seriously, try it.

  14. Re:Thanks Jon, I appreciate your work! by lullabud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're required to view it I assume you're also required to read it and understand it, but if that's the case how come they won't let you pause on it?