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Company Name in URL Not Copyright Infringement

Christoph writes "CNN reports that a man's website, http://www.bosleymedical.com, criticizing the Bosely Medical Institute does not infringe the institute's copyright on its name. The man's attorney is quoted as saying that the court's decision 'is an important victory for free speech on the Internet. It makes clear that consumers can use a trade name for a company they want to criticize.' The appeals court, however, reinstated part of the lawsuit in which Bosley alleged that Kremer is violating a so-called cybersquatting law by allegedly attempting to sell the site to Bosley in exchange for removing the disparaging material."

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  1. Maybe BosleyMedicalSucks.com, but this? by me+at+werk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would think it'd be a lot easier to have BosleyMedicalSucks.com and get away with it, than BosleyMedical.com

    Time to go buy aol.ws

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    1. Re:Maybe BosleyMedicalSucks.com, but this? by I+confirm+I'm+not+a · · Score: 5, Funny

      Time to go buy aol.ws

      Sadly already registered. You could, however, still get aol.cx. Aside, I think .cx URLs are ideal for this type of website: bosley-medical-su.cx.

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    2. Re:Maybe BosleyMedicalSucks.com, but this? by Yolegoman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Time for a new TLD: .sucks.

  2. copyright? by latroM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are probably talking about the trademark law. But that's what you get when you use the term intellectual property, more confusion.

    1. Re:copyright? by Macadamizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that two words would fall under 'fair use' for copyright. You are allowed to take short bits and quote them.

      As others have noted, this is a trademark problem, not a copyright problem. There is no "fair use" under copyright here, because words, short phrases and titles are not copyrightable subject matter to begin with.

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    2. Re:copyright? by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They are probably talking about the trademark law. But that's what you get when you use the term intellectual property, more confusion.

      It's obvious that this is a trademark question. It has nothing to do with copyright, and it's only confusing if you don't know anything about intellectual property law. Seriously, sometimes /.ers sound as silly as a non-tech person talking about a "56 megahertz" dial-up connection, calling a 3.5" diskette a "hard disk", or saying that Microsoft invented the web browser.

      Listen people: if you want to be taken seriously about legal matters, stop jabbering like impassioned no-nothings and learn something about the topic first. Saying "copyright" when you're talking about trademarks is like putting an "I'm an id10t" sticker on your forehead.

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  3. So, let the *sucks.com race begin by The+I+Shing · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People will be snapping up the *sucks.com domain names now, but be warned, companies will still threaten suits for trade defamation if they find disparaging remarks about them or their products on the web.

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  4. You keep using that word. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The linked article seems to conflate copyright and trademark. I imagine this is a trademark dispute, not copyright. I don't think you can copyright anything as simple as a name.

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  5. WIPO handles these cases all the time. by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Informative

    This has been addressed by WIPO in their FAQ. They have specific examples of when a trademark owner can take a domain over.

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    1. Re:WIPO handles these cases all the time. by nguyenhm · · Score: 5, Informative

      WIPO's decisions are pseudo-law, but are not the law (they are not a governmental body). Furthermore they are an international body. This decision by a US appellate court actually goes against the trend in WIPO case law, which had tended to favor the corporations without much recourse or chance of appeal. WIPO actually just published a casebook; seems like it may already be obsolete.

  6. Uh copyright? by oGMo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Copyright... on a name? You mean Trademark?

    Yes, yes you do. A quick glance at the article shows they have it right. Trademark is significantly different than copyright; and this seems to me to be a significant decision, but then I'm not a lawyer or anything.

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  7. Re:They should have waited by LiENUS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason he got away with this is because he was not selling the domain name for money. The judge ruled since he was not linking to competing hair loss clinics it was ok.

  8. Re:They should have waited by Macadamizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Offering to sell a domain name that includes someone else's trademarked name in it to that someone for $$$ is what gets you in trouble under the anticybersquatting rules. Here's the (long_ relevant part of the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act of 1999:

    (d)(l)(A) A person shall be liable in a civil action by the owner of a mark, including a personal name which is protected as a mark under this section, if, without regard to the goods or services of the parties, that person --

    (i) has a bad faith intent to profit from that mark, including a personal name which is protected as a mark under this section; and

    (ii) registers, traffics in, or uses a domain name that --

    (I) in the case of a mark that is distinctive at the time of registration of the domain name, is identical or confusingly similar to that mark;

    (II) in the case of a famous mark that is famous at the time of registration of the domain name, is identical or confusingly similar to or dilutive of that mark; or

    (III) is a-trademark, word, or name protected by reason of section 706 of title 18, United States Code, or section 220506 of title 36, United States Code.

    (B)(i) In determining whether a person has a bad faith intent described under subparagraph (A), a court may consider factors such as, but not limited to --

    (I) the trademark or other intellectual property rights of the person, if any, in the domain name;

    (II) the extent to which the domain name consists of the legal name of the person or a name that is otherwise commonly used to identify that person;

    (III) the person's prior use, if any, of the domain name in connection with the bona fide offering of any goods or services;

    (IV) the person's bona fide noncommercial or fair use of the mark in a site accessible under the domain name;

    (V) the person's intent to divert consumers from the mark owner's online location to a site accessible under the domain name that could harm the goodwill represented by the mark, either for commercial gain or with the intent to tarnish or disparage the mark, by creating a likelihood of confusion as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of the site;

    (VI) the person's offer to transfer, sell, or otherwise assign the domain name to the mark owner or any third party for financial gain without having used, or having an intent to use, the domain name in the bona fide offering of any goods or services, or the person's prior conduct indicating a pattern of such conduct;

    (VII) the person's provision of material and misleading false contact information when applying for the registration of the domain name, the person's intentional failure to maintain accurate contact information, or the person's prior conduct indicating a pattern of such conduct;

    (VIII) the person's registration or acquisition of multiple domain names which the person knows are identical or confusingly similar to marks of others that are distinctive at the time of registration of such domain names, or dilutive of famous marks of others that are famous at the time of registration of such domain names, without regard to the goods or services of the parties; and

    (IX) the extent to which the mark incorporated in the person's domain name registration is or is not distinctive and famous within the meaning of subsection (c)(1) of section 43.

    (ii) Bad faith intent described under subparagraph (A) shall not be found in any case in which the court determines that the person believed and had reasonable grounds to believe that the use of the domain name was a fair use or otherwise lawful.

    (C) In any civil action involving the registration, trafficking, or use of a domain name under this paragraph, a court may order the forfeiture or cancellation of the domain name or the transfer of the domain name to the owner of the mark.

    (D) A person shall be liable for using a domain name under subparagraph (A) only if that person is the domain name registrant or that regi

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  9. In other news by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Funny

    The appeals court, however, reinstated part of the lawsuit in which Bosley alleged that Kremer is violating a so-called cybersquatting law by allegedly attempting to sell the site to Bosley in exchange for removing the disparaging material.

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  10. Re:tbh by Macadamizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    We are not allowed to do something that might confuse someone?

    Well, generally not -- that's the whole point of trademark law in the U.S. The test for infringement under trademark law is always "likelihood of confusion."

    In the case of "sucks" sites, though, the courts in the U.S. have generally held that the free speech rights of a consumer outweigh the rights of the trademark holder to prevent the use of "confusingly similar" domain names.

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  11. Re:This is dirty... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is black mail, like if I have pictures of your wife naked and threaten to post them on the web unless you pay me $1000. What can a person do?

    Post naked pictures of her yourself and send the link to the blackmailer. Nyaah nyaah nyaah.

  12. Re:BosleyMedicalSucks.com by operagost · · Score: 4, Funny
    If I want to go to KFC for a chicken dinner, I have a right to go there without having PETA throw buckets of fake blood on me while protesting.
    It's fake? No wonder my vampire powers are fading. And here I thought it was the greasy chicken. Next time, I'll just feast on one of the protesters. I hope they don't taste like angst.
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  13. Re:This is dirty... by benjamindees · · Score: 5, Funny

    In that case I'm afraid I must inform you I have naked pictures of your wife.

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  14. What about in an Email by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a mail server at home in which I create aliases that I give out so I know where the email address has been given from.

    For example, I created an email: dmv@[myhomedomain].com so that I could have the DMV of California email me, and I would know if I got spam that it came from them.

    I received several emails and letters from the DMV head lawer for me to "cease and dessist immediately" from using DMV as I would be infringning on their right to "defend their BRAND"

    I told him how, as a public office, I did not feel that he had a brand, and that since I was using it only for the DMV to contact me, but they were adamant that I stop using it as an email alias.

    I actually submitted this issue as an ask slashdot, but it was rejected...

  15. Re:BosleyMedicalSucks.com by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful
    But the argument for potential confusion is there.

    So long as the site at bosleymedical.com doesn't pretend they ARE Bosley Medical, where's the confusion? You get to the site and see it's a complaint site, and the confusion is over.

    With *sucks or *reallysucks domains the confusion argument is rendered mute by the bulk of US court decisions.

    Forcing all protest into something like a "(whatever)sucks.com" is like saying picketers can only march along a 40' section of sidewalk around the corner, next to the building loading zone.

    Also, the word you're looking for is "moot", not "mute". Arguments are rendered moot.

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