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CherryOS On Hold

aberkvam writes "MacWorld is reporting that CherryOS is "On Hold - until further notice." Does this mean that they are going to confirm that they used PearPC's code or is this just a delaying tactic due to the potentially pending lawsuit? Slashdot has covered this saga before."

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  1. Was there ever any doubt? by pwnage · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So goes the latest twist in the CherryOS saga: the most probable end to clear OSS theft and a massive stint of publicity whoring.

    Which reminds me, if your really want Mac OS, then just get the real thing.

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    1. Re:Was there ever any doubt? by over_exposed · · Score: 5, Informative

      The problem is, CherryOS denies that they use and GPL'd code and don't give the original authors (PearPC as I understand it) credit for their work.

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  2. Re:Big surprise... feh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I bet it's more along the lines of "We got caught with our pants down, again... quick, let's change more identifiable code slightly to evade them!"

    By the way, what does this have to do with Apple? They're both PowerPC emulators, the fact that it will run OSX is incidental.

  3. You think? by t_allardyce · · Score: 5, Funny

    Without undermining due process, i think its pretty obvious that they are as guilty as a man with shit on his dick standing stark naked next to a goat.

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    1. Re:You think? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wiping mental picture caused by parent

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  4. Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm glad I donated my $5 to PearPC. It's about all I can really afford, and I only use Apple's anyways, but people who put all that effort into source-code like PearPC (which is amazing, by the way), deserve some help when theiving bastards like CherryOS come along. Viva la Open Source!

  5. Re:Big surprise... feh by NetNifty · · Score: 5, Informative

    " By the way, what does this have to do with Apple? They're both PowerPC emulators, the fact that it will run OSX is incidental."

    Correct, however CherryOS specifically says on their web site that it is there in order to run OSX on x86 hardware. PearPC gives instructions on how to run OSX but doesn't really claim that it's whole purpose is to do so, which CherryOS does.

  6. Confirm? by Rightcoast · · Score: 5, Informative

    I thought Netsniper already did that for them? http://www.ht-technology.com/cherryos-pearpc/cherr yos-pearpc.html

  7. Various conspiracy theories... by jd · · Score: 5, Funny
    • They are planning to buy out PearPC, so that there is nobody left to sue them
    • CherryOS is being developed by the Amiga OS development team
    • Microsoft bought both, the Amiga AND the Vatican
    • Investors pulled out when they realised that Cherry is a really pathetic name - and I'm pretty sure it's already trademarked for some other computer equiptment
    • Both operating systems, all companies involved and the entire case was fabricated by the same UK journalist who invented "toothing"


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  8. In the page source.... by Flaming_cows · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There is a date in the page source (which doesn't conform to the stated HTML 4.01 Transitional doctype along with other random attributes given to various elements, by the way):
    <st1:date Month="11" Day="25" Year="2004">
    I wonder what it's there for, as it is nowhere near accurate.
  9. Of course its on hold! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... They are waiting for PearPC to finish up all of the CherryOS promised features first!

  10. Cherry O's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news
    Cherry OS has decided to restructure and rename their company/product, in response to a possible lawsuit.

    Their new name is no Cherry O's, and they well now be selling breakfast cereal.

    Later that day Kellogg's has announced they are seeking to sue Cherry O's claiming that the company "Just slapped a sticker on our boxes of Apple Jacks"

    A Cherry O's spokesman was quoted in saying "I don't know what the problem is, we both use the cereal language."

  11. Re:Deserve by tomjen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While i think it is wrong, it must say:
    It is not stealing/piracy/buzzword of the week. It is copyright infrigment.

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  12. Re:Why does everything take so damned long? by mattkime · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was organizing an angry mob of gnu/linux hippies to burn his house but no one wanted to leave their parents basement. :(

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  13. Re:too right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe the GP was being sarcastic. Here, I'll draw it out for you:

    * ---- Joke

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    Any questions?

  14. Can anyone help? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm trying to run the mac port of Doom3 on OS 10.3.8 under CherryOS running on Virtual PC on OS 9.2.1 running on Pear PC using OS X 10.2.4 under Guest PC running BeOS on my G3 Beige Mac.

    All I'm getting is a black screen. Is there something wrong, or am I playing the game already?

  15. Wait for it... by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So goes the latest twist in the CherryOS saga: the most probable end to clear OSS theft and a massive stint of publicity whoring.

    Waaa, waaa! It's not theft it's copyright infringement. Waaa, waaa!

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  16. Re:too right by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why is there a litte star named "joke" so far above that little person's head?

  17. VX30 by eventhorizon5 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You also have to remember that this company's primary product, the VX30 video codec system, has been suspected (and somewhat proved) to have taken code from other open source projects too - they admitted to taking code from JOrbis (and they're still in violation of the LGPL with that), and it's suspected that they also used XVid and maybe LAME.

    My whole info archive (with demo releases of CherryOS, VX30, etc) are all at
    http://www.tliquest.net/ryan/cherryos

    -eventhorizon

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    1. Re:VX30 by eventhorizon5 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also a third product they have called PdfConv (hosted on their one-product "store" at http://www.mbloom.com/) was entirely taken from VeryPDF's PDF2HTML code, and some effort by PearPC developers was required to make MXS release the source for that. The problem though was that the source they released was entirely stripped of all VeryPDF's copyrights and authorship acknowledgements, and only contained one small reference to them on the webpage (just referencing "VeryPDF" - no links or anything). So even their source is in violation with the GPL (since all previous copyrights must remain intact) - I think they also stripped the XPdf copyrights (VeryPDF's PDF2HTML was based on XPdf).

      I found only one reference in the code to verypdf:

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      ryan@europa:/data/home/ryan/xpdf$ grep -ir verypdf pdfconv
      pdfconv/src/MyReg.cpp: "Dear verypdf.com Inc:%0a"
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      Here's the diff file I made between VeryPDF's PDF2HTML code and Arben's PdfConv source:
      http://www.tliquest.net/ryan/cherryos/other/pdfcon v.patch
      That diff is proof enough. So with the way they treat the GPL, it seems as if everything they make is dirty.

      -eventhorizon

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  18. Re:Deserve by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Insightful

    or whateverelsely

    controversially?
    Arguably?

    Considering the inevitable arguments regarding the fact that the owners still have their software, and are in no way deprived of the use of it, there are many people who disagree.

    Religion doesn't enter into it.

    Morally, morality is a personal thing.

    Practically there's a key difference. The PearPC creators still have their code.

    If you're arguing that it fits your definition of stealing, fine. I'll argue its jaywalking because it fits my definition of jaywalking. But then we might as well be talking different languages.

    The only reason to call it stealing is because the term has negative connotations. How about using a less emotive term?

  19. Re:Deserve by badasscat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed, I stand corrected. But I figure that difference is only an argument of semantics. Seems pretty much the same thing (in this case) to me.

    It is not even close. Nobody can "steal" GPL'd code - it is there for all to see and modify as they see fit. That's the whole point.

    What you can't do is take that code, modify it, sell the binaries and then refuse to give your contributions back to the community. That is what the CherryOS people have done, and that is a GPL violation. As the copyrighted code is provided under the GPL only under the terms of said GPL, violation of it is by extension a copyright violation.

    But you can't "steal" something that is freely available, so it is not just semantics whether or not it was "theft".

    Yes, it was wrong - that's not the issue. But just as we're constantly berating the RIAA/MPAA for their hyperbole on such issues, we have to be careful in what we say about GPL-related copyright violations too.. especially as this is even further removed from "theft" than what people do when they download music or movies.