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Ophthalmologists, Physicists Design Bionic Eye

InfallibleLies writes "For the first time ever, those who have been blind since birth will have a chance to see the world. It's still in the early stages, but this is a giant leap forward in medical science." From the linked BBC article: "U.S scientists have designed a bionic eye to allow blind people to see again. It comprises a computer chip that sits in the back of the individual's eye, linked up to a mini video camera built into glasses that they wear. Images captured by the camera are beamed to the chip, which translates them into impulses that the brain can interpret."

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  1. Nonvisible wavelenghts? by bird603568 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would it be possible to make it "see" infared. Then it would translated it to false color? It would be like the first upgrade in Rouge angent.

    1. Re:Nonvisible wavelenghts? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      What next, to be able to use your infra-red eye as a TV remote?

    2. Re:Nonvisible wavelenghts? by Nebu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's no need for it to be translated into "false color". The brain would interpret infrared exactly as it would interpret any other color. What would infrared look like to someone using this chip? Well, that would be like describing what red looks like to someone who is blind.

    3. Re:Nonvisible wavelenghts? by panaceaa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hardly. TV remotes send infrared signals, but eyes receive them. So really, this is a major step-forward to having remote controlled people.

    4. Re:Nonvisible wavelenghts? by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The first upgrade in Rouge agent would be Covergirl or possibly Lancome.

    5. Re:Nonvisible wavelenghts? by Vengeance_au · · Score: 4, Insightful

      However, if they were to use the chip to translate infared (or thermal, or anything else we can currently view with instramentation) into colours, they COULD see in that wavelength. Same as how infared goggles work - translate the wavelength into a "visible" wavelength.

  2. From birth? by puppyfox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not so sure that people bling from birth will benefit from any such device. That part of their brain is not even developed, you can't just "plug in" some video feed and expect them to see, do you?

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    1. Re:From birth? by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not? Does being blind from birth imply a brain problem, or just a problem with the data collection device?

      Or is it that not seeing the inside of the womb for 9 months damages your ability to process visual images for the rest of your life? Seems like a pretty big stretch to me.

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    2. Re:From birth? by puppyfox · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Fact is, the brain keeps developing after the baby is born, so even if you're perfectly normal but blindfolded (or in the dark) for you first few years, you won't be able to ever see "normally". Same goes for some other complex brain functions, like using language. One of those funny facts that stick with you from college classes :)

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    3. Re:From birth? by duffahtolla · · Score: 4, Interesting
      No, this is true. Being in the womb is why babies are born with crappy vision. The neural pathways in the brain have not yet formed. As the baby tries to "see" things, the pathways map themselves to the signals. Thats why you can't leave an eye patch on a new born for too long.

      This goes on for about 6 to 9 years where vision stops development.

      There was a case where a mans vision was restored, (Lost durring childhood) where he simply could not deal with his new vision. He nearly killed himself trying to pick up the "toy" car outside his window. He voluntarily went back to blindness. (I have no references, sorry)

      Even the article specifically states: "US scientists have designed a bionic eye to allow blind people to see again."

    4. Re:From birth? by RabidMoose · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So as soon as it's apparent that a baby has been born blind, fit them with the eye and glasses. It could be done around the same time a male baby would be circumcised (in the first year), and the child would not only never remember the surgery, but would never remember not being able to see. Of course, I'm no doctor, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

  3. Eye in action by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    Look at distant car...

    Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da...

    See close-up view of its license plate.

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  4. Not for those who have been blind since birth... by SkOink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I recall correctly, people who have been blind their whole lives can never really 'learn' to see, after age 3 or so. At least, not on anywhere near the same level that people can see naturally, even assuming that they had an absolutely perfect prothesis. Who this will benefit are people who have went blind at some point during their adult life due to injury, glaucoma, diabetes (yes, it can make you go blind), drinking too much rubbing alcohol, or something similar.

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  5. Not exactly true . . . by gcauthon · · Score: 5, Informative

    It may help people that were blinded later in life through an accident or cataracts. However, if someone is blind from birth then their visual cortex never develops and vision would be impossible even with an artificial eye. Many studies have been done. Click here here and here for more info.

  6. Re:Not for those who have been blind since birth.. by Lux · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Who this will benefit are people who have went blind at some point during their adult life due to injury, glaucoma, diabetes (yes, it can make you go blind), drinking too much rubbing alcohol, or something similar.

    You forgot masturbation.

  7. hmmm. by sugapablo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So how long before upgrades make this "bionic eye" significantly better than a human eye?

    Will we reach a point where attaching this bionic eye becomes an elective surgery where someone wants to simply improve their eyesight beyond 20/20; beyond what a mere "human" can see?

    Breast inlargements, designer babies, bionic implants....where is it all going?

  8. Didn't Wired report this in 2002? by wskellenger · · Score: 4, Informative
    They did. I remember the cover vividly -- the guy wearing sunglasses with the camera as a lens.

    They were stimulating nerves in the eye with tiny electrodes, although they had to ask the patient where in his field of vision he saw the phosphene as they stimulated him. From this they created a "mapping" of sorts.

    This sort of research was frowned upon on the US, and so it had to be carried out overseas. Check out the article -- more info than the linked BBC one.

  9. Re:Not for those who have been blind since birth.. by RFC959 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, this jibes with what I've heard too. Google for "Parmelee Sigman kitten" and you find references to a study in which kittens were blindfolded from birth to adulthood; when the blindfolds were removed, they were unable to see and never gained the ability to see, despite the fact that their eyes were physically normal - their brains simply weren't wired for it. Still, we've discovered that the adult brain is more plastic than we used to think, so I wouldn't totally rule out the possibility. They mention macular degeneration in the article, and this is a big one, since it's a major cause of blindness in the elderly (my grandmother and great-aunt were both legally blind in their old age because of it). Something that can fix that would help make living longer better, instead of just longer.

  10. Re:Not for those who have been blind since birth.. by leob · · Score: 4, Informative

    Masturbation can only possibly cause night blindness if your diet does not have enough zinc or vitamin A. Zinc is needed to transport vit. A to the retina, where it is needed for the rods that provide black-and-white night vision, but it is excreted in relatively high amount with the semen.

  11. Re:Not for those who have been blind since birth.. by Chazmati · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll bet you win at Balderdash all the time.

  12. yes, 5 mg each time by r00t · · Score: 4, Funny

    The US RDA (diet guideline) says you need 15 mg per day. Wikipedia says you lose 5 mg each time you abuse yourself. So, at a rate of 3 squirts/day, you'll have no zinc left for your eyes. You'll go blind, just like your momma told you.

  13. so to all the girls, get some free zinc! by cheekyboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now a good excuse/reason to tell the girls
    "Have you had your zinc supplement today?"

    3 rations sounds good, morning, evening, late evening. :-)

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  14. Re:A little goes a long way by MagicDude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Indeed. Your brain can do a lot of interpretation based on just a little input. For example, take this little flash quiz.

    http://www.onceuponadime.com/gold/12pixelheroes.sw f

    I think you'll be surprised at how well you'll do despite having only 12 pixels to identify a superhero's costume. However, I don't think a person who has been blind all his life can make the same interpretations a regular person can. We take for granted how much our brain fills in the gaps of what we can't (or don't) see. A person who hasn't learned to do this would probably have a great deal of difficulty doing this.

  15. Be like Marvin... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now the world has gone to bed.
    Darkness wont engulf my head.
    I can see by infrared.
    How I hate the night.

    Now I lay me down to sleep.
    Try to count electric sheep.
    Sweet dream wishes you can keep.
    How I hate the night.

    - Marvin the Paranoid Android.

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  16. Yes, but... by mangu · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...what causes the hair to grow in your palms?

  17. Bling? by infinite9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not so sure that people bling from birth will benefit from any such device.

    Bling from birth?! That's the shit fer shizzle, ma nizzle!

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  18. WARNING! DONT CLICK ON PARENT LINK!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It takes you to a star trek site

  19. Is this just more hype again? by DumbSwede · · Score: 4, Informative
    They have been making brain implant vision systems since 1978

    In late 2002 this method was up to 68 implanted electrodes (which would be about equal to an 8x8 matrix)

    HOWEVER, you need more than 1000 (say 32x32 or 1028) or above for any really useful vision With 8x8 you might recognize one or two ASCII characters. A Face??? Only if it's an emoticon.

    Now granted these are implants in the retina and not the visual cortex, but I have seen other claims for retinal implants over the last five years.

    Why is this research taking so long to bear fruit? In 1978 progress was limited by the available CPU horsepower to translate images into usable grid stimulation patterns. Now it seems we are stalled out with our ability to put electrodes in organic systems.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is easy, but why doesn't this stuff scale like Moore's Law with integrated circuits? Given the state of research over a decade ago we should be up to VGA quality arrays of 640x480 by now.

    In general prosthetics systems always seem to be on the verge of some "Steve Austin" "Million Dollar Man" arrival and then never makes it. I assure you when we watched Lee Majors in the early '70s wha-na-na-na-na'ing all over the place we assumed such feats would be common place by the year 2000. What the hell happened? Is this just hard like AI, or under-funded and poorly organized?