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EZTree Shuts Down

John3 writes "Easytree.org, a popular Bittorrent tracking site also known as EZT, shut down today after their ISP received threatening letters from attorneys. Unlike sites like Lokitorrent that have been shut down in the past, torrents on EasyTree were usually unreleased live musical performances rather than commercial product. Is a site that shares old Stevie Nicks, Frank Sinatra, and Ian Hunter live shows really that much of a threat to the music industry?"

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  1. To be fair... by marekk · · Score: 3, Informative
    Is a site that shares old Stevie Nicks, Frank Sinatra, and Ian Hunter live shows really that much of a threat to the music industry

    To be fair, this site also hosted torrents concerning live shows from a wide variety of artists. From the submitter's offhand comment, this site is portrayed as only hosting older live sets and this is far from the truth. For example, NIN's latest shows (from the currently on going with teeth tour) were bootlegged and releasted on this site.

    With that being said, I'm sad to see this site close as its user base was very dedicated to providing high quality live sets from a variety of bands.

  2. Re:live performances vs. commercial product by Svartalf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, it does make a difference whether or not the materials are Copyrighted- and a live performance carries a Performance Copyright (i.e. The performer largely owns the rights to that if not all the way...). RIAA's involvement typically involves the recording company's interests, which is to say a Recording Copyright.

    It's contorted, but simply put, because of contracts, the artists typically can't record without the permission of the label they're signed with, and the label owns the rights to that version/instance. Now, unless the label's done a recording of the live performance, you're only in violation of the Performance Rights- at which point, it'd be up to the artist(s) to defend their rights.

    I'd love to know who actually sent the notice- if it was RIAA, they'd better have standing for dealing with that sort of infringement (i.e. They and their legal counsel can't be threating lawsuits unless they own an agreed upon recording of the concert.). I would dearly love to have someone hand them their kiesters over their overzealous "protection" of the labels' rights.

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  3. Re:Okay, but... by Misch · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they don't. You're confusing copyright and trademark law. Trademarks must actively be protected. Copyrights do not.

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  4. Re:Why am I the last to hear? by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here ya go

    etree.org is like EZtree, except that etree is completely legal. Unfortunately because of this, you won't find very many artists, but there are a few big names. Specifically Phish, the Grateful Dead, Primus, Ben Folds, 311, the Spin Doctors, Jack Johnson, and others.

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  5. Content might be legal according to federal judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article should also include a reference to the decision by a federal judge last september that "struck-down" the anti-boot leg law.

    http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2004/09/anti -bootleg-law-struck-down.php

    Yes yes, mod this post way up. The content according to september's ruling may be actually legal.

  6. Re:Permitted live recordings... by jim_redwagon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Shameless plugs to follow... check out:

    Phish, Dead, String Cheese Incident and others

    Live Music Archive @ Archive.org

    These are amazing sites to get that show/song you are looking for, from bands who lived and survived by allowing their fans to tape and trade their shows.

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  7. Re:Threat? by flinkflonk · · Score: 5, Informative

    When you shut the alternatives people have no choice but to buy music from RIAA members.

    BZZT, wrong. Funny enough that are the same mistakes(!) the RIAA makes.

    1. Not all music sold is controlled by the RIAA. To (US) americans it might seem like it, but there are actually big countries, even continents outside the United States. Yes, I know this will probably get this post stamped as flamebait, but it's the simple truth, live with it.
    2. There is always the alternative to simply not buy. I find it increasingly funny that this case is always forgotten by so-called economists.

    What I'd like to see is for more musicians to realize that this whole P2P business is a win-win situation for them - they can give the fans what they want for little to no cost, and they get non-fans to buy their records (what other businesses call try-before-you-buy). The only losing part here is the record company (and even that can be argued), and that is why the RIAA tries to shut down everybody else.

    Oh, and of course the old "because we can".

  8. Re:Yes by trewornan · · Score: 4, Informative
    the pirates (criminals) seem to whine

    Firstly "pirates" are guys with missing body parts and parrots on their shoulders, and secondly, copyright infringement is not criminal unless it's done for profit.