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Longhorn to use UNIX-like User Permissions
destuxor writes "After years of Windows users abusing administrative accounts out of necessity, Microsoft promises that Longhorn will make better use of user permissions in what sounds exactly like what UNIX/Linux users have been doing for years. Hopefully this will fix the long list of applcations that cannot be run by a Least-Privilege User Account (LUA) while giving a much-needed security boost. Too bad "MS-root" can't watch over your grandmother when she opens emails."
No the Microsoft permissions in Longhorn will be different from Unix permissions... :-)
They'll be patented.
Windows security model is better than traditional UNIX permissions. There's no way they'd throw that away.
It sounds more like they'll have secure default permissions, e.g. making \winnt non-world-writable. This isn't "UNIX-like", just not stupid.
well, it will once MS finally patents them like they did sudo.
http://taint.org/2004/08/20/024522a.html
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You forgot the read the fine print.
M$FT is innovative in the realm of the MS Windows OSes. It does a better job of adding new innovative features to various MS Windows OSes better than anyone else does.
It's a very narrow scope.
I think Microsoft needs a cattle prod for their Longhorn, to get it out the door.
Nice to see they're considering adding features added to other OS's 20 years ago, though.
+++OK ATH
On UNIX we call this "groups" it's fabulous.
Not since Marie-Antoinette played milkmaid has looking simple and honest been so fake and complicated.
OSX: user == cattle
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OSX/FreeBSD: admin == cattle rancher
VMS: User == Ameoba
VMS: admin == Crazed Hermit
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Would that game be Breakout, SuperBreakout, or Photoshop?
Reminds me of that VMS admin they found deep in the heard of some DEC building last year. From what I understand, he still doesn't believe that Compaq bought out his company, and they're having a hell of a time tracking him own in there. Late at night he somehow evades security cameras, sneaks out and defaces HP logos.
They say you can hear his screams of "thread-level security" echo through the halls.
Those who don't understand UNIX are doomed to reimplement it. Poorly.
Sounds like you need to take your network admin out to lunch and get him drunk...he'll take care of you if you take care of him... ;)
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>> use my computer with the "default" monitor at much lower resolution and refresh rate than my monitor is capable of, and never print anything?
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You installed Linux too?
It comes back to the whole "build a better idiot," principle, though. I mean, I have people come to me complaining that their computers don't work, and they don't know why.
"What is the error message?"
I don't know, something about how it won't work.
"What did you change?"
Nothing.
"Nothing? It just stopped working?"
Just stopped working, can't explain it.
Come to find out they logged in as Admin, deleted a bunch of files and registry keys, shut down, removed old hardware and installed new hardware, and then completely mind-dumped the whole experience.
Am I the only one with users like this?