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Court Denies Smucker's PB&J Patent

lbmouse writes "The AP is reporting that on Friday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit rejected an effort by the Jelly & Jam maker to patent its process for making pocket peanut butter and jelly sandwiches." While the company was only trying to patent the "crimping process" used to create a specific type of mass market sandwich, they had also "...asked Albie's Foods of Gaylord, Mich., to stop producing ready-made PB&J sandwiches for a school district".

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  1. Jesus! by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Insightful
    asked Albie's Foods of Gaylord, Mich., to stop producing ready-made PB&J sandwiches for a school district

    I am ready to join the protesters who want to destroy corporate america. The ones who go to G7 meetings and economic forums and fight the nasty police. If some asshole wants to deprive me of the right to a PB&J sandwich because they have a patent, motherfuck them. The corporations have too much power. Too many lobbyists. And the laws are getting rediculous.

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    1. Re:Jesus! by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Actually this case was an example of the system working the way it's supposed to.

      If the system was working the way it was supposed to, this patent & 90% of the others would be laughed out of the Patent Office front door.

      The fact that the _backup_ system (the U.S. Court of Appeals) managed to work in THIS ONE CASE, hardly means that the system is working the way it's supposed to.

  2. PB&J vs. Technology by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see what the big interest with this case is. I think the only reason it is getting as much publicity as it is, is because the general public actually understands the patent. The prior art is clear: ravioli, pierogies, pirags, etc.

    There are software patents being passed that are 100 times more ridiculous than this, yet you don't hear much about it outside of Slashdot or some short blurb in the tech section of the NYT.

    Most of these software patents are just as absurd as patenting a method of making a PB&J sandwich, often worse. A "System and method for creating, processing and managing educational content within and between schools," I mean come on, or a "method and system for processing input from a command line interface."

    I wish the general public would realize the ramifications of software patents like these. It is essentially re-patenting the wheel.

  3. ob old commercial by daeley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With a name like Smucker's, it has to be, uh, patent pending.

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    1. Re:ob old commercial by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Insightful
      With a name like Smucker's, it has to be, uh, patent pending.

      ROFL. If I had mod points, I would mod that insightful. LOL.

      Seriously, we need to do something about patent law. It is getting to be a joke. I remember when anyone could work on their car. I bet in 5-10 years there will be systems that GM and Ford and Toyota will patent so only they can fix it, and charge much more money. People joke about patents to blow jobs. Wait til you get a sunshine job, and the bill.

      When did patent law become a way to make a monopoly?

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    2. Re:ob old commercial by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When did patent law become a way to make a monopoly?

      That was always the point. When you file a patent, you share your idea in exchange for a monopoly for a limited time. The problem is that the patent office is being bombarded by applications so they just figure "grant everything and let the courts sort it out". The problem with that is that it allows deep pocket companies to bully anyone they want by filing for ridiculous patents.

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  4. Re:dot dot dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    what do peanut butter and jelly sandwiches have to do with my rights online?

    The same thing that canaries have to do with coal mines.

  5. The patent office rejected a patent? by goon+america · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the real news here -- that the patent office rejected a patent application.

    My question is this: if they accepted swinging on a swing as worthy of a US patent, why did the USPTO decide to deny Smuckers this one?

  6. Average Patent Office Worker by SteelV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Patent comes in for a new type of PB&J.

    Worker: Hey! I could have thought of that... hell, the wife makes one every Tuesday... DENIED.

    Patent comes in for a new "technology." A Web site will have a box labeled Username and one labeled Password, and a Submit button that logs on the user to the Web sites system.

    Worker: That sounds complex about computer web site things. Must be some new technology. APPROVED.

  7. Re:God damn geek anti-patent rants by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What stops the manufacturer of these machines from selling them to a competitor? What stops other manufacturers from making them if the design gets leaked?

    If there is anything unique about the machines they designed, they should get a patent on that. But they didn't. They got a patent on the sandwich.

    The idea of "leaking" the secret about a crimped PBJ with PB on both slices of bread is absurd. It's not innovative, it's obvious, and it took just about zero investment of time and capital to come up with. Here are the exact claims from the patent:

    1. A sealed crustless sandwich, comprising: a first bread layer having a first perimeter surface coplanar to a contact surface; at least one filling of an edible food juxtaposed to said contact surface; a second bread layer juxtaposed to said at least one filling opposite of said first bread layer, wherein said second bread layer includes a second perimeter surface similar to said first perimeter surface; a crimped edge directly between said first perimeter surface and said second perimeter surface for sealing said at least one filling between said first bread layer and said second bread layer; wherein a crust portion of said first bread layer and said second bread layer has been removed.

    2. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 1, wherein said crimped edge includes a plurality of spaced apart depressions for increasing a bond of said crimped edge.

    3. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 2, wherein said crimped edge is a finite distance from said at least one filling for increasing said bond.

    4. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 3, wherein said at least one filling comprises: a first filling; a second filling; a third filling; and wherein said second filling is completely surrounded by said first filling and said third filling for preventing said second filling from engaging said first bread layer and said second bread layer.

    5. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 4, wherein said first filling and third filling have sealing characteristics.

    6. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 5, wherein: said first filling is juxtaposed to said first bread layer; said third filling is juxtaposed to said second bread layer; and an outer edge of said first filling and said third filling are engaged to one another to form a reservoir for retaining said second filling in between.

    7. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 6, wherein said first filling and said third filling are comprised of peanut butter; and said second filling is comprised of a jelly.

    8. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 7, wherein said crimped edge is formed into a substantially circular shape.

    9. A sealed crustless sandwich, comprising: a first bread layer having a first perimeter surface, a first crust portion and a first contact surface; a first filling juxtaposed to said first contact surface; a second bread layer having a second perimeter surface, a second crust portion and a second contact surface; a second filling juxtaposed to said second contact surface; a third filling; a crimped edge directly between said first and second perimeter surfaces for sealing said first, second, and third fillings between said first and second bread layers; wherein said first and second crust portions have been removed and said third filling is encapsulated by said first and second fillings.

    10. The sealed crustless sandwich of claim 9 wherein said first filling and said second filling have sealing characteristics.

    There are two parts to this patent: (1) So the jelly soaks through the non peanut-buttered side. 90% of the population could solve that dillemma in 30 seconds by putting PB on both sides. (2) So the sandwich is loose. Crimp it just like ravioli has been crimped for over a century.

    Notice that there is not a single reference to any machine that could make this sandwich. Just two dead-simple ideas that even a person of low intelligence would think of as soon as they saw the problem description.

    This is not some mysterious rocket-science research that needs to be nurtured. It's just a sandwich that you could make in your kitchen in 60 seconds, except that now it's illegal.

  8. What pisses ME off... by martijn-s · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a European, I'm amazed that this kind of candy bread is actually spread, pre-manufactured, at schools!

    It's not like we don't know the PB&J over here in Holland but come on, a school should primarily serve a nice fresh cheese sandwich or something else without so much sugar.