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Battlestar Galactica in HD

Hauzer writes "Ars Technica is carrying news that I know will bring joy to some fans: Universal HD is going to be broadcasting Battlestar Galactica. They're going to run the miniseries and the first Season (2005) of the new Battlestar Galactica, starting Sunday night at 8PM, with HD repeats coming every week. Now if only Sci-Fi would provide an HD channel so we can watch when the new stuff airs!"

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  1. Cool... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the hdtv divx version airs at 9pm Sunday night on bittorrent

  2. Re:I pity the fool who doesn't have an HDTV ... by ericdano · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I miss a male Starbuck. They need a wise ass, woman chasing male in the series. Baltar works to a point, but he's so insane......

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  3. The doctor is a cylon by loggia · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Think about it.

    - The constant cigarette is a nice way to subtly - almost subliminally - throw you off. But Ron Moore and his writers have relished in making the cylons as nuanced, flawed and unexpected as the humans. A cigarette-smoking cylon is a brilliant touch.

    - One of the first things the doctor says to President Roslin is to PRAY regarding her cancer. Again, a subtle hint regarding the cylons' preoccupation with their religious beliefs.

    - As a trusted and unquestioned figure, the doctor is in an ingenious place to sabotage and manipulate the crew. President Roslin accepts the doctor's diagnosis without question (a learned respect typical in most cultures, including our own). Even if she wasn't sure, there appear to be either no or few medical doctors with more experience on hand in the fleet.

    - It is a savvy device for the writers. If Mary McDonnell - a very esteemed actor along with Olmos - doesn't want to continue in the series, she passes away. If she is in for the long haul, it turns out the doctor LIED about the seriousness of her cancer. Either way, it is organic to the writing.

    - We have seen no "elder" humanoid cylons, a strange anomaly.

    - The doctor is neither a main character nor a completely marginal one. It would come off as cheap if a character we have scantly met pops up as a cylon and it would be rather boring if another main character had the silicon implants, so to speak. The doctor is in the show enough to elicit some good surprise and recognition if he comes out of the closet... er cylon closet... (cyloset?)

    - Let's face it. The guy would make a cool cylon.

    1. Re:The doctor is a cylon by goDzi7la · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And he's providing her the medicine that is causing her hallucinations. :)

    2. Re:The doctor is a cylon by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 2, Informative


      I believe he's referring to the medical doctor, not Dr. Baltar.

      As far as I know, Dr. Baltar doesn't even know that she has cancer.

    3. Re:The doctor is a cylon by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Funny


      - The constant cigarette is a nice way to subtly - almost subliminally - throw you off. But Ron Moore and his writers have relished in making the cylons as nuanced, flawed and unexpected as the humans. A cigarette-smoking cylon is a brilliant touch.


      It's also a great way to kill the people on Battlestar. Via passive smoke.

    4. Re:The doctor is a cylon by JoshRosenbaum · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, I think she's the one that requested the "alternative" treatment. The doctor recommended something entirely different.

    5. Re:The doctor is a cylon by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about Galatica's Petty Officer Second Dualla?

      She doesn't check in the Olympic Carrier when its disappearance is being used by Number Six to test Baltar's faith in the Cylon monotheistic god.

      She has a romance with President Roslin's aide Billy, which each uses for "back-channel" between their respective bosses, Adama and Roslin.

      And she's ideally situated on the bridge.

    6. Re:The doctor is a cylon by ManoMarks · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, IIRC she was diagnosed during the miniseries, by a doctor we never see and who presumably dies in the initial cylon attack. I'm not saying you're wrong about him being a cylon, just got one fact wrong.

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  4. This will be AWESOME. by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've already downloaded a HD movie in 1280x720 resolution, and it was awesome. Yeah, it's a very large file (700MB for 40 minutes), but the quality is amazing. All of the other stuff I download is typically a max of 720 wide - most are below that. I would love to watch BSG on my nice 1600x1200 monitor and actually have the video source be more than half of my screen BEFORE I maximize it.

    1. Re:This will be AWESOME. by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Question: is anything ever broadcast in 1920x1080?

    2. Re:This will be AWESOME. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      ABC-HD, FOX-HD, ESPN-HD, and ESPN2-HD are broadcast in 720p. Just about all other HD channels, including Universal-HD, are broadcast in 1080i.

    3. Re:This will be AWESOME. by jerw134 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes. NBC and CBS broadcast their HD in 1080i, and there are many others.

    4. Re:This will be AWESOME. by maxbang · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't know for sure, but isn't 1080i 1920x1080? All the HD channels I get are 1080i 16x9 format, so I always just assumed it was 1920x1080. I don't see how it would be anything different. Can someone with more info please elaborate? The first page of Google's results are vague and I'm incapable of clicking any further.

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    5. Re:This will be AWESOME. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Informative

      ATSC 1080i is 1920x1080, interlace scanned.

      It looks like the HDV standard is 1440x1080 though, horizontally stretched. HDV is a consumer HD digital video standard that uses standard DV tapes.

  5. supa by boomgopher · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... now my eyeballs will become chapped even faster, as they stare unblinkingly while my brain is in an infinite loop trying to figure out what the hell is going on...


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  6. Sci-Fi channel redeems itself by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was all prepared to hate this show. I really was.

    You gotta remember, this is the channel that made an even worse Dune than the trainwreck that aired in the theatres. The same guys who keep bringing you movies like "Killer Anaconda" and "Mansquito".

    They told us there would be changes, and I was ready to hate this show for that reason too. A female Starbuck? Oh, how I would hate this show when it aired. How dare they?

    But you know what? I finally got around to watching a few episodes...and it's really good! The mood is intense, the writing is good...good acting...I really can't find anything to dislike about it. It's not the same show you watched as a kid, no doubt about that - but for some reason I can't put my finger on, the changes in mood and tone and character seem to work.

    My only (very minor) gripe is the camera work. The "shake the camera around" bit I find to be a little annoying. Later shows don't shake it around as much though, so it's easier to watch.

    It's hard to believe, but Sci-Fi has a really good show here. A huge surprise, too. I even like the female Starbuck. Who'd have thought that was possible? I can't wait to see the next one, and it's been a *long* time since I've felt that way about anything on TV.

    If you can see it on HD, I'd recommend it. It's a good show and HD could only make it better.

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    1. Re:Sci-Fi channel redeems itself by metlin · · Score: 4, Funny

      > I even like the female Starbuck.

      Dude, I'd like a female anything.

      Okay, that sounded desperate. Almost anything - there, better!

    2. Re:Sci-Fi channel redeems itself by NarrMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Personally, I think the new BG stays true to the orignal's intentions: A ragtag fleet fleeing from a relentless enemy trying to find Earth. The original just turned into a "oh, here's another space station/planet/whatever with problems, let's fix it and get on our way". In the new show, There's none of that. Just a ragtag fleet fleeing from a relentless enemy trying to find Earth.

      And no stupid "daggit".

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    3. Re:Sci-Fi channel redeems itself by ilyaaohell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was prepared for this show to be in the same league as all the other sci-fi shows since TNG went off the year: campy, bad acting, bad directing, lousy production design, boring storytelling... you know, all the things you can see in shows like Andromeda, Cleopatra 2525, Farscape, Stargate SG1, Enterprise, etc...

      It's amazing that Battlestar Galactica is NOTHING like that! It's actually GOOD TELEVISION! Written by REAL WRITERS! Not the same 22 year old testosterone-fueled film school grads that write Sci-Fi Channel's "monster of the week" flicks, but real professionals! Every week that I've watched a new episode, I was completely blown away. Science fiction television isn't supposed to be THIS GOOD!

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    4. Re:Sci-Fi channel redeems itself by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In a sense, the original urned into Star Trek :)

      SB

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    5. Re:Sci-Fi channel redeems itself by mr.mighty · · Score: 5, Funny

      The only problem I ever have with the show is I'm busy lusting after the new, female Starbuck, then she tilts her head and looks a certain way and all of a sudden she's transformed herself into Macaulay Culkin. I find that VERY disturbing.

  7. Personally... by Eyeball97 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think this "Anonymous Coward" dude's a Cylon. Think about it... he's all over the place... I mean everywhere... and he keeps us confused by taking up contrary positions even with himself... My God I've seen entire threads where he argues with himself... Personally I think he's a pear short of a fruit bowl...

  8. BSG in HD in AUS by C077335 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Battlestar Galactica has been aired in SD and HD in Australia for over 7 weeks now.

  9. FCC DTV mandate. by Technician · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If the FCC wants the john Q public to get Digital Television, Why isn't this stuff on over the air local TV broadcasts?

    The original Battlestar series I watched on network TV in the late 1970's. The big thing keeping joe sixpack from demanding digital television sets is the lack of broadcast content.

    There are lots of digital ready monitors on the market and HDTV monitors, but a very small ammount of Digital Televisions. Dorm dwellers simply don't have the space for a home theatre solution nor the budget to buy a TV that includes a tuner. There are set top tuners, but they cost more than my current television. There is little incentive to spend the bucks simply because of the lack of quality content. BitTorrent is making an end run past the content/broadcastflag/overtheair stalemate.

    The FCC deadline will come and go, but market forces will simply mean the end of analog over the air is simply the end of free over the air TV.

    I'm hoping my prediction is not true, but so far, I have no plans in the future for an over the air digital television. I'll get broadband instead.

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  10. usenet by poptones · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got the entire series in 704xsomething HD rips before I knew I would like it so much. I had a hard drive problem and lost a few eps, now I need to fetch them again and I find all the eps right on usenet in HD format. Check alt.binaries.multimedia, alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi, or maybe even alt.binaries.battlestar-galactica

    I don't watch much TV. Yeah it's cool universal will run them in HD, but I really feel kinda "whoopee" about it - I can download them with no commercials and watch them anytime I want. Thanks to congress and the FCC it's easier just to download them than to watch and rip myself.

  11. It helps that Ron Moore is co-creator, though. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think the biggest reason why the revival of Battlestar Galactica has worked so well is the fact one of the co-creators of the revival is Ronald D. Moore, the same person who did some of the very best episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

    This is why I can't wait for the first ten Second Season episodes that will be shown later this Summer. :-)

  12. Re:And here I am... by zarthrag · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bitme TV for all of your tv-related needs. got the entire season+movie in one fell swoop.

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  13. Re:I pity the fool who doesn't have an HDTV ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    fool who doesn't have HDTV?

    Unless you live in the USA basically, you can't get OTA feeds. I'm in Canada and there were no OTA feeds in any of the provinces I lived. I'm moving again in a year, and it seems like I won't have OTA feeds over there either...

    Cable carries very little channels in HD, and they're rather low quality from whay I heard...

    Satellite? We have that (it's our only real way to have anything HD), but even then it's just not good enough. I had it not long ago, and other than like 3 PPV channels (that seemed to air only the crappiest/most boring movies ever - none of the good PPVs) and a handful of US stations there's really nothing. I'm sorry, but I've never been attracted by any of those, and I'm not going to be magically interested by their content because it's in HD. And a lot of the stuff seemed upscaled, not real HD to start with... Most stuff (95% or so) was 720p, but some stuff was laughable. Star Trek (no thanks) at "D1 with a widescreen AR, then letterboxed to 4:3" if I can explain it this way, resulting in a resolution below DVD (black borders on each side) but at 60fps (it was 480x480 IIRC - same as a SVCD). And some channels (like both PBS) were nothing but demo loops 24/7.

    It'll be worth my while when the channels I currently watch are available in HD (none are even PLANNED to be anytime soon), or that HD DVDs (either standards) are a reality (player AND titles available at decent prices). Then perhaps blowing a few thousand on a HD setup may be worth something. We have no PVR solutions yet for satellite either (coming soon perhaps, like DN's 921 IRD), so until then I'd have to watch stuff at the time it's aired, and no skipping ads either. (That alone will make that I won't watch anything)

    Until then, I've settled for a nice SVGA DLP projector, and have no regrets whatsoever. It still looks surprisingly good for the few HD titles I got too. If you want to see how it looks, set your monitor to 800x600 and check microsoft's WM9 HD samples (You still get 40% more resolution than a DVD and a cleaner source).

  14. Was it filmed on super 16mm or 35mm ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because HDTV will actually make it look WORSE if it was done originally on 16mm...

    1. Re:Was it filmed on super 16mm or 35mm ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apparently the pilot was done on 35mm and then the series was shot directly on HD video, so HDTV broadcast should look fantastic:

      format wars heat up as reality opts for new strains of standard-def video
      but more dramas shoot on Super 16 film

      High-definition certainly makes sense for effects-intensive shows. Sci Fi Channel's recent remake of the seminal 1978-79 series "Battlestar Galactica" shot its pilot on 35mm film then switched to HD when it went to series, set for a January debut.

      "HD is about a whole new creative medium that's out there for us to explore," "Galactica" cinematographer Stephen McNutt says. "We just have to understand how to control it creatively, and there are lots of things about it that you can control on-set, in-camera and in post."

      "Galactica" is one of 10 fall series being finished in HD on the Avid DS Nitris system at Modern Video Film, where president Moshe Barkat notes that he is still seeing a lot of filmed series come in.

  15. Battlestar Galactica in HD by secolactico · · Score: 4, Funny

    Battlestar Galactica in HD

    Pfft. Big deal. I've had Battlestar Galactica in my HD for quite a while now.

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  16. Re:Am I the only one? by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude. Enterprise is gone, get over it...

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  17. Re:Forget the HD... by aleatory_story · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, it is out on DVD... in the UK, at least.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007L6SA 8/202-8389048-6566215

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  18. Re:Am I the only one? by mogalpha · · Score: 2

    If only I had the karma to mod you down...

  19. Re:The doctor is a cylon (Spoiler?) by twilight30 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, I think that would be too obvious.

    ===spoiler???===

    My money is on Lt Gaeta.

    In the finale he hands Boomer something, and the camera pauses momentarily on the 'handshake' just prior to her shooting the Commander.

    Also, just after the 'handshake', she says to him, 'Thanks' -- and it appears to be entirely apropos of nothing, as it doesn't quite fit the short conversation they've just had about Apollo's mutiny.

    Think about it.

    - Who does Boomer dance with in the closing scenes of Colonial Day?
    - During the mini he says he's never plotted a successful jump before. Then in 33 -- five days later -- he's done 240? Without a hitch?
    - Who exonerates Baltar in Six Degrees of Separation? (Which has a fairly obvious reference to that Kevin Costner movie No Way Out as well)
    - Again in the mini, Gaeta is talking with Tigh about locating the Cylon transponder on the CIC. The former says, 'It's been there a week or so. I just never took any notice of it ...'

    ---and another thing---
    I really like seeing the soundman during Starbuck's shooting of the museum case! (He's wearing a red shirt and a dark vest, on the right)

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  20. Re:Am I the only one? by ivano · · Score: 2, Insightful
    well, do you like "the West Wing"? do you like "Six Feet Under"? If no then i know where you're coming from: You have no taste in well scripted, well acted television.

    No for me the new BS is probably some of the best TV out there. I have no way of knowing if either of us is more right than the other. But I do know that if this wasn't a science fiction show it'll be up for a few Emmy's.

    ciao

  21. No, HDV is a multi-standard... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...just like HDTV. The first HDV cam was 720p, it is a HD stream format for DV tapes.

    "What is HDV?

    A MPEG 2 recording format allowing recording of 720p and 1080i formats.

    1080i format consists of 1440 x1080 pixels, sampled 8 bit 4:2:0 and then compressed 60 to1 to tape. Data rate of 25mbs

    720p format consists of 1280 x 720p sampled 8 bit 4:2:0 Data rate of 19mbs

    The inter frame compression takes place across 6 frames.

    1920 x1080 signals (YPb Pr) by "upconverting" 1440 x1080 to 1920x1080.

    The HDV standard was established by Sony, Canon, Sharp and JVC.

    How can 25mbs compete with 185mb of HDCAM?

    Pinnical Solutions suggest that a 50mbs MPEG inter frame compression is comes close to 185mb HDCAM (which uses intra frame compression).

    Also HDCAM records 1440 x1080, not 1920x1080.

    Generally the picture becomes softer as you progress down the line of HDCAM SR to HDCAM to DVCPRO HD to HDV. So called I-frame compression is about 2.5 times less efficient than IBP but is easier to encode, decode and process. So an HDV image encoded at 25 Mb/s (IBP) is roughly equivalent to an I-frame image encoding of about 60 Mb/s."

    source

    So, the resolution is actually the same. The effective bandwidth is about 1/3rd of professional HDTV cameras, but about 2.5 times a DV cam. Considering how much commercial work can be done in SDTV (e.g. all of Europe has almost no HDTV to speak of), it is definately prosumer bordering on professional.

    Kjella

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