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Commercial Exoskeletons
FalconZero writes "For those of you with superhuman aspirations, your dream may be a step closer; New Scientist (recently) and the Japan Times (last year) covered Yoshiyuki Sankai's work at
the University of Tsukuba in Japan developing powered exoskeletons
with commercial versions expected soon costing between $14,000 and $19,000
(£7,500-£10,000). Other work with exoskeletons previously covered
here(1),
here(2) and
here(3)."
"So when do we get mounted guns?"
and get posted on the N/S Korean border?!?! No thanks!
I am not left-handed, either!
The hell with that. I'm applying to the Brotherhood of Steel ;)
-fren
"Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"
yeah, I'm sure helping spinal injury victims and the advancement of science and technology has nothing to do with it...
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...
Anything that is bi-pedal is not eneregy efficient. It is more difficult to conserve momentum with it. Without incredible specialization it would also be extremely difficult to obtain any sort of precision of movement or manipulation. Perhaps the biggest problem: balance. The more control given to the "pilot" the less they could regulate balance and weight transfer in the machine. These things, I am sure work well for the disabled and old people, but they aren't going to be used by technological super heroes or anything like that anytime soon.
This seems a lot more appropriate for applications in construction than in the military or in medicine.
Digging/moving/lifting/mixing/carrying machines are generally designed to do jobs that humans can do, but on a larger scale and with more power. It seems to me that a person in a powered exoskeleton could perform such tasks pretty well, given the right tools or attachments.
What happens when these things go berserk and won't stop? Or they tear off your legs? And how would having stronger lower limbs help you carry heavier loads? You'd still fuck up your back, hips, spine without mechanical assistance there, too.
That being said, I have the idle money for one of these units at the mentioned price, if it is cool enough.
Anything that is bi-pedal is not eneregy efficient. It is more difficult to conserve momentum with it.
So why don't humans have wheels/tracks/wings/scales to slither on the ground/whatever? Surely, we're not the most efficient beings, but we're pretty darn good. The real technological limitation is a light and dense power source--because that's what it boils down to, and robots can't burn ATP--yet. You want to move heavy stuff, you need power.
We've got all of the stuff to make a super mecha, as little seperate projects, with the exception of a good power source. We have manipulators that can be used to thread a needle, yet are still capable of lifting hundreds of pounds. This can be fairly easily transfered to hydraulics, for more power/bigger parts. Sony and others have the bi-pedal robots that can balance itself and all of that. The logic for just that isn't that hard, and if the project could somehow use the equilibrium sense of the human body, all the better.
Sure, it's not like gundam is going to be happening anytime soon, but I think that on a small scale, the loader exoskeleton from Aliens could be feasible and maybe even economical within 30 years.
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i imagine getting shot or cut or otherwise receiving damage to your flesh hurts more than damage to your bones. so um, exoskeleton for me please!
if i'm not immortal, what's the point of living?
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These would be better suited for the classic "gate guard" with 100-200lb payload you could put quit a bit of armor on that guy. That and a 30-50lb weapon. The intimidation factor would be very high.
It used to be that instability in aircraft was bad. Now unstable fly-by-wire fighters are very manouverable. Unstable is great if you can deal with it.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results" - Winston Churchill
Its all a tradeoff. Lose efficiency for increased flexibility.
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results" - Winston Churchill
The most obvious weapon I can think of would be a .50 caliber heavy machine gun. Currently it takes several men to carry one(or else a vehicle like a Humvee), a suit might allow one man to carry and use a weapon capable of taking out light armored vehicles. You could also add some heavy body armor- in short, create a mobile machine gun nest.
It's going to have its limitations, but any technology- aircraft, trucks, tanks, ships, foot soldiers- have their limitations, the trick is recognizing the limitations and advantages of each and using them accordingly. I suspect we will see something along these lines eventually. If it can help us kill people more effectively, you can be sure the Pentagon will employ it.
Then there's the logistics end of things, where it might play an even larger role- loading bombs onto aircraft, loading munitions and supplies onto supply trucks and aircraft, that kind of thing. If you could use this kind of technology to make your supply train smaller, faster, and more flexible that might have a much bigger impact on warfare than allowing a guy to carry a bigger gun.
We had the technology to build them back then??? Wow, that's news to me. The Japanese must seriously be SO behind in terms of technology that they are still building things from the 1950s.
On another note, I'm beginning to fear the impending rise of Japan's technological skills. With their recent attempt to amend their constitution to allow for a standing army along with their recent changes to their textbooks that make their actions during WW2 seem honorable instead of atrocious. I mean, sure there are some good uses for the new exoskeleton technology. But wouldn't the BEST way to help disabled people would be to research stem cells and how to regenerate nerves and muscles??? This exoskeleton that makes you twice as strong and straped to a computer which allows wireless hook up sure does make me think more of war than it does of helping old ladies. But hey, that's just me, I'm paranoid.
I'm beginning to fear the impending rise of Japan's technological skills.
The impending rise? Where have you been for the last few decades? As a country their technological skills and drive have been cutting edge for a long time now.
With their recent attempt to amend their constitution to allow for a standing army
If my country was that close the North Korea and China I'd really want it to have a standing army too. I guess they could rely on the Americans for ever, but they have a lot of other commitments and what if you don't always agree with them?
changes to their textbooks that make their actions during WW2 seem honorable instead of atrocious
Now that's a massive generalisation, assuming you are talking about the same thing as the Chinese have been protesting about. A textbook, not all, done by a company not the government referred to the rape of Nanking as an "incident". Now that isn't good, it was a massacre and a war crime, but you may be generalising just a bit from it.
But wouldn't the BEST way to help disabled people would be to research stem cells and how to regenerate nerves and muscles
It would be another way. We don't know it would be the best way until we tried both. Even then, best how? Cost? How quickly it is available? Quality of life for sufferers? Percentage of sufferers it works for?
It's pretty rare with medical conditions that one treatment works for everyone. Researching multiple ways to deal with it is generally a good thing, that saying about all you eggs in one basket.
Yes, exos could have military applications, (a lot of tech can, if it can it usually gets used) the US army has already said it is interested, and researching. Given their military budget they would almost certainly be the first to use such technology if it becomes practical.
Why isn't every Marine in Iraq, etc not wrapped in 6 inches of Kevlar from head to toe? Because Kevlar is HEAVY. The real advantage of a Mech type suit is that you can make the average Soldier harder to kill. You don't need to make it superhuman strong, and able to punch through walls, just make it able to handle a normal range of motion / speed, and then wrap enough Kevlar on it to make a person immune to small arms fire.
They said in the article that the HAL 5 would be smaller (about 11lbs lighter, bringing it to about 37 lbs) and that it could be used to pick up nearly 90 extra lbs. That's pretty decent, that shouldn't have too much bulk to it. The problem now isn't hardware (though power will be an issue...) its going to be programming it to be able to move around like a normal person (right now it only stands, walks, and does stairs.)
This is very doable, and certainly in the near future (Marines are already working on a set of legs to help them carry more, further.) but it won't be like the anime you're used to, and it won't be replacing tanks any time soon. What it will do, is make the life of the average Army grunt a lot better. The USA is way ahead in terms of Air Force and Navy tech, (think aircraft carriers... No one else has even close to 12 fully functional aircraft carriers.) But on the infantry side, we don't have nearly the same kind of lead. With all the tech money out there, some of it should go to the "grunts".