Commercial Exoskeletons

FalconZero writes "For those of you with superhuman aspirations, your dream may be a step closer; New Scientist (recently) and the Japan Times (last year) covered Yoshiyuki Sankai's work at the University of Tsukuba in Japan developing powered exoskeletons with commercial versions expected soon costing between $14,000 and $19,000 (£7,500-£10,000). Other work with exoskeletons previously covered here(1), here(2) and here(3)."

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Exoman

[WeirdKid]

So I was trying to find one *good* Exoman site, and I couldn't find any. (It was a short-lived 1977 TV series about a paralyzed scientist who created his own exo-suit in which he would fight crime yada yada yada).

Blame it on Gundam

[Neo-Rio-101]

I'm pretty sure that only reason why they're even devising these things is because of Japan's robot anime. You know, some guy jumps into a huge robot and control it through sensors all over his body.

There is some guy here in Japan who is that crazy about the anime that developed his own exo-skeleton to move his toy Mazinga robot around. They had him on TV wearing his Mazinga get up and fighting other geek's toy robots on one of the TV shows here. Apparently there are a lot of these robot hobbyists as well as uni students building these things.

Mazinga, BTW, is a really old anime, but not far removed from the likes of say Gundam, Voltron and a billion and one other ripoffs.

May be tackling the wrong problem

[DumbSwede]

Neat as this stuff is, I doubt it will really help the majority of mobility impaired like my father. My father suffered from severe arthritis that left his knees and hips unable to bear his weight, and of course flexing them was excruciating, assisted or not.

A lot of wear an tear is from load bearing, and perhaps these powered suite address this to a degree, but I suspect in many cases they would exacerbate the problem for arthritis sufferers by adding to the weight load on joints, even while enabling superhuman lifting capabilities.

Even if they address the load issue on joints, it is overkill from what is really needed by tens of millions. I have not seen such a thing, but does anyone know of some kind of lightweight synchronized brace system? Something that would distribute the body's load to the hips directly and lock when the joints aren't moving? I have seen leg braces before, but not articulated ones that auto-lock. One thing that my father believed contributed to the breakdown of his joints were the long periods he spent standing doing his job as a chef. Again, a locking brace system would seem the answer for people that need to be on their feet long periods, but may have the beginnings of joint break down.

Round 1 . . . Fight!

[kai.chan]

Roboshark vs. Land Walker vs. Exoskeleton

Who wins? My vote is on the Exoskeleton. But the Roboshark equiped with laser eyes might pose a challenge.

his venture firm??

[Anonymous Coward]

Did anyone else notice that his "venture firm" is called cyberdyne??? How was this not harped on at length? Are we actually tired of allusions to skynet's infamous creator?

Consumer version?

[Lord_Dweomer]

What I'm really wondering about is what kind of regulations there will be when the average joe can buy one. If they are within that price range, thats like a low end new car, and I know more than one geek who would be willing to drop that much on such a fine piece of equipment.

But you know they're going to regulate it to death with things like requiring a license, etc. I'm fine with that, but I really do hope they let this be as commercial as other modes of transportation and disability assistance.

I can't wait for the import tuners to get their hands on this and make it look GOOD. Although it would probably have 5 tv screens, 900W stereo, and neon lighting all over...

Re:I, for one, welcome our new Exoskeleton Overlor

[myowntrueself]

Interesting thoughts, but a highly mobile one-man machinegun nest.

If theres three things I learned playing various mechwarrior games, its that vs ground opponents a mechs strength is mobility.

I also played apache longbow sims and learned that the mech is not just a 'hog' on legs; its an infantryman with a punch. A mech can loiter to set up an ambush or to defend an area.

In the games they were severely limited by munitions; the missiles were appaling. I always wanted to try a loadout of winchester hellfires and sidewinders :)

In the real world, mobility isn't just about being able to clamber over obstacles or duck down shuffle along and pop up. Its also about endurance.

Those overgrown SUVs the yanks call 'High Mobility Vehicles' have very short range. Their mobility is limited by the mobility of their supply train.

The civilian ones get 10 miles per gallon on sealed roads. Offroad? 5 mpg?

One must ask the Battle Mech sales guy "Does your mech need a fuel truck following it around?"

Re:I, for one, welcome our new Exoskeleton Overlor

[CAIMLAS]

I disagree.

Take a squad of 25 men, and put them in suits (albiet suits somewhat more advanced than these). Like Heinlein's, to a large degree. Making them nuclear powered might be practical, to some degree, if they were to give a significant edge in battle.

If the suits were 8' fall or so and had thick (ie, tank-level reactive) body armor, the squad of 25 could very likely out-maneuver most tank/armor batallions of the world, and most certainly out-gun all but the most intense infantry. They'd be able to withstand multiple RPG-type hits (possibly, provided the soldier isn't injured due to percussion), and would be harder to hit than a vehicle by far. With the assistance of advanced machinery and electronics, they'd likely be able to do a better, faster job sniping than most snipers, and be able to carry much larger guns than an unarmored soldier - though probably not quite as big as a vehicle-mounted weapon.

Think of them as something between a soldier on foot with a troop rifle (M16 or BAR) and a HV with a 100mm cannon. Maybe they'd carry a 30mm cannon with a couple thousand rounds, a decent sniper rifle, and a 20mm grenade launcher with plenty of ammo for it - significantly more power than even a squad could dish out, but not as much as an armored vehicle.

I don't imagine such suits being used to replace, say, foot infantry or even advanced groups like 1st Recon USMC or Navy SEAL. I think they'd largely be used in support capacity for those squads, or for the troops with less prowess. They'd likely get carted around on a transport truck, just like any other piece of specialized machinery - only deployed when needed (such as, say, for guard duty).

I obviously don't think such things are near to implimentation or deployment, but provided things don't tank in the near future, I suspect something similar - or at least a step in that direction - will be coming to the US Armed Forces within a while.

Re:Limited Usefulness

[Mant]

An exoskeleton isn't a mecha, and doesn't have to be nearly that big. From a military point of view everything has limitations. Tanks are great in open country, but not so good in built up areas. If exoskeletons have a militray application it would more likely be urban areas and rough terrain where their greater mobility would be an asset.

Funny that we barely have the technology to build them now but could build them in WWII.