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Router Built for Gamers

VL writes "Ping times suck? Too much lag? If your loved ones are hogging all your bandwidth with P2P and torrents, you'll want to check out the D-Link DGL-4300 Wireless 108G Gaming Router. This is a router designed for gamers that also happens to be a great router for regular folks."

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  1. Overpriced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $120? What makes this router so special? In fact, what the heck IS a gaming router? My $20 Netgear wireless router with logging and access control works fine and it's $100 less. It might not have glowing blue lights and make a front page Slashvertisement, but it works fine for me.

    1. Re:Overpriced by crypto55 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From what I've heard, it's actually pretty good. It's best if you have a lot of different people on the network, or else it really doesn't do much. The router optomizes the stream to a certain computer that's playing a high-speed game, while reprioritizing other computers so that the primary one gets the majority of the bandwidth.
      On the other hand, it's very expensive, and doesn't really seem to offer that much more that would make it that worth the high price tag. But it would be good if you have maybe 5 computers that are downloading low-priority files while playing a game.

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    2. Re:Overpriced by andreyw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reconsider your strategy when dealing with Tech Support.

      As far as they care -
      1) You /don't/ run Linux. Only Windows XP with the latest and greatest service packs.
      2) You /don't/ only have one computer where the problem manifests itself. In fact you have 10 - you're a small business.
      3) The problem /doesn't/ occasionally happen. It happens all the time.

      Basically [-
      a) Tell them you conform to hw/sw requirements so that they actually help you instead of hanging up.
      b) Over-exaggerate the problem.

    3. Re:Overpriced by AviLazar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      See I go a different route (maybe the Soviet route) and tell them what the problems is, that they are wrong to think it is one of my multiple computers, running Irix and Windows (depending on the computer) and that I have multiple browsers. After throwing in a couple of choice techie words they realize that I know a couple of things about networking (i.e. I probably already did the reboot of modem, router, computer) and that they need to forward me to tier 2 tech support.

      In Soviet Russia, tech support asks you for help.

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    4. Re:Overpriced by JaF893 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would like to know where you can get a $20 router with:
      1. Up to 108Mbps* 802.11g Wireless Connectivity.
      2. 4 Gigabit Ethernet Ports.
      Yes, it is overpriced but have you even read TFA?

    5. Re:Overpriced by Retric · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a gamer I must say it's not the minimum ping time that makes a difference but the maximum av ping time. I don't care if 1/2 the packets get there in 25ms if 5% of the time they're timing out then most games are not playable.

      As most games are fairly low bandwidth there is little advantage to going past 100kb/s but cutting 100kb/s out of a 786kb pipe shared with 3 people can take a 40-120ms ping and drop it into a 42- 60ms ping. Now if your not sharing your pipe with anyone then it's not a big deal but if you want to let people use bit torrent while getting a good av ping time then traffic shaping really helps out.

      Yes, it reduces your total bandwidth a little and adds a little overhead, which is not always needed, but if it means you can leave BT on 24/7 while your roommates are AIMing and surfing the web then it's a net win.

    6. Re:Overpriced by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I wonder what penalty is incurred by the packet inspection overhead? I betthings run better with a plain-jane nat router and NO filters or rules to slow things down.. "

      Not when some moron user forgets to set an upload cap on their BitTorrent/KaZaA/Blubster/etc client.

      Then your whole connection goes down the tubes unless you're running some sort of packet prioritization scheme.

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  2. Ok, come on now. The submission is just the ad by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    blurb from TFA? How lazy can you get?

    More Slashdot commercials... tho I hate to admit it, this one looks niiice.

    1. Re:Ok, come on now. The submission is just the ad by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How lazy can you get?

      The submitter was obviously one of the ViperLair people, who are the people behind TFA.

      Really, though, Slashdot submissions should contain next to no information from TFA - invariably that just gives superficial material for the first post warriers to pretend they have some knowledge of TFA, when of course they never actually read it. Then the drovers of replies feed off of the incorrect information leading to some giant recursive loop of ignorance.

  3. Sounds like... by ajiva · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To me it just seems like a normal router with some fancy lights and colors and some QoS software built into the router (most other routers have QoS as well, at least the Linksys ones do). To me though, it doesn't seem all that interesting.

  4. No password, no SSL. by frostman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to TFA, this router comes with no password and also lets you get at the admin tools via http rather than https.

    OK, most routers are utterly insecure in their default configs, but for something relatively high-end I don't see why they don't require a password. (Not to mention the SSL bit, which is standard on my much older D-Link).

    It's not that hard. All you have to do is only allow access to the admin tools until a decent password has been set, and have a hardware reset button that gets you back to that state in case you forget your password.

    I suppose you could have an option for a completely open wireless network, but you'd want to require a few confirmation clicks with big fat warnings.

    Am I missing something? Is that really so hard?

    (And yes, I know people don't normally associate "high-end" with "D-Link" but hey, mine cost $30 and works just fine.)

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  5. Quit Advertising! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quit fucking advertising shit marketed to people who don't know a thing about networking that no respectable slashdotter would ever buy.

  6. Just an Ad by i-neo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a shame to have an Ad article like that...
    If only it was something new. The only new thing is the marketing concept, the features are not.

    I hope not to see such kind of articles anymore on Slashdot.

    i-neo
    PS: Fortunately they'll be slashdotted ;)

  7. There it is. by FreeLinux · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There it is, the reason that QoS on the internet does not exist and will not work. This router allows anyone, including clueless newbs, to easily establish QoS policies for their favorite game. Now, don't get me wrong, there is nothing inherently wrong with this but, what would it be like to have your internet phone call interrupted or preempted by some one else's fragfest? Or for that matter, I want to speed up my surfing so I set QoS priority for my port 80 traffic at the expense of your video stream.

    The point is that it is just too easy to abuse QoS and therefore it won't be implemented on a global level. Not in its present incarnation, at least.

  8. Score another one for gaming culture by Datamonstar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's mainstream now, so expect these type of products hitting the market more and more in the near future. It's like video cards. There was a time when a video card didn't have to come with a flashy 3D collage on the box, but now, thanks to the mainstream culture, video cards have to look cool before they're even out of the box.
    And now that joe six pack is playing multiplayer games more and more we see routers and other gear that was once only found in the domain of the geek eeking their way onto the plates of the masses.
    It's not a bad thing, just something that happens every time something becomes popular. Companies try separating products for specialised tasks, even if the variance between these products is rather insignificant.

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  9. Re:So it's useless then? by Darren+Winsper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If your ping is not consistent, you'll get annoying jittering and server-side compensation will suffer. If you can get a 130ms constant ping, that's OK (to a certain extent), but a ping that varies between 50 and 130ms will lead to issues.

    As for the games it happens in, I've had issues with CS:S and UT2004. I don't really play any other FPS games over the internet, so I don't know how other games perform.

  10. Re:gigabit by SorcererX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I never understood why people insist on integrated hub/switches on their routers, personally I prefer having a separate router with *ONE* LAN port and a switch that I can replace whenever I want without having to buy a new router.

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  11. Reminds me of Creative by j.bellone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As soon as a read this article to myself I started to laugh, well, at least inside (I was in a public place and a geek laughing at a bunch of text on the screen might not be the best thing for his image). Anyway; this specifically reminds of the products that Creative advertises as "Gamer's Soundcards" that they specifically sell targetting towards gaming.

    The fact is; any decent soundcard would do for gaming and you don't need to buy the specific product. But because of the fact that it says "Gamer" on it, and that they're giving away some cheap games with it, people buy it. You really have to love the marketing twists that TPTB put on the consumers.

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  12. Why invest in this router ? by hugo_pt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... when you can have a P200 with a wireless card running a flavour of BSD running pf+altq ? (or linux, for that matter), giving priority to gaming packets ?

  13. Over-exaggerate by 4ngl024xx0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Syntax error:
    10: "Over-exaggerate"

    You can't "over-exaggerate" something. "Exaggerating" is synonymous with "over-stating". And "over-over-stating" makes no sense.

    "Over-exaggerate" implies there's an acceptable level of exaggeration and you've crossed it.

    I may be the grammar police, but otherwise we'd have "words" like "ain't" and "cuz" in the dictionary.

  14. QOS Question by bill_kress · · Score: 2, Insightful

    QOS seems kind of useless to me in a home setup. Last time I checked you can't control what your provider is sending you.

    Your router can obviously ensure that your precious northbound game bandwidth is being preserved, but how can it keep updating your status steadily if your wife is in the next room downloading all last weeks Days of our Lives episodes?

    Has this changed and you can assume that providers will support some kind of QOS protocol now?

  15. You people seriously suffer from tunnel vision.. by dspisak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    (Disclaimer: I have the router described in the article at home in use)

    I see all these posts from people saying:

    "Oh this is nothing special, I can do everything this routers does with my Linux box and iptables and tc"

    Hello people! This is a CONSUMER ROUTER. How many people who are just regular people are competent enough to:

    1. Build their own computer (ok, they could buy it prebuilt)
    2. Install Linux
    3. Configure Linux
    4. Understand TCP/IP
    5. Learn how traffic shaping/traffic prioritization works
    6. Implement #5 on their new Linux box.

    Just because us Slashdot nerds can build our own routers doesn't mean this isn't a bad product.

    Also, for the people who are saying:

    "Oh the Linksys routers can do QoS with the Sevasoft firmware"

    This still requires the average consumer to:

    1. Know what the hell QoS
    1a. Know how the hell TCP/IP works
    2. Learn what ports different online games and p2p apps utilize
    3. Know about alternative niche firmware for their consumer router
    4. PURCHASE the firmware and install it (without borking their shiny new router)

    To the people who have been going on about how previous older/current different models of D-Link's have had problems for them I say this:

    The D-Link gaming router actually works as advertised. I haven't had it burst into flames. It's been perfectly happy handling World of Warcraft, IRC, IM, DC++, and Bittorrent all simultaneously over my cable connection. The router hasn't spontaneously reset due to extreme traffic flow. The router has simply Just Worked.

  16. Why wasn't this commercial post suppressed? by cyberhenge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a quote of the complete contents of the site it points to. It's a lame sales site without any further information. I had to Google the product name to get a different site where there were any product specs. This post is nothing but an advertisement for an advertisement. Maybe the product is worthwhile; if it is the poster should have sent us to a site that had something to say.