The have been defacto sovereign since 1992. Never been a part of Georgia. Georgia claiming so after the fall of USSR doesn't make it so.
And yes - Genocide. That's what happened until a 1992 moratorium was enforced. It is also what is happening now, apparently. The casualties on the Ossetian side now are 2000 civilians and counting. Plus countless wounded and thousands displaced and with a refugee status fleeing to Northern Ossetia.
But hey, just keep watching CNN, the Beeb, and FOX and calling others "fucking idiots".
Why? Saakashvili is pretty much NATO's lapdog. He came to power amid a series of pretty much US-encouraged (if not orchestrated, but the money trail is obvious) "colored revolutions" in many of the Post-Soviet Republics. Everything Saakashvili has done as a president has destabilized the situation in the Caucasus.
What Georgia did _was_ an act of war. They invaded a defacto sovereign nation, violating a 1992 accord, and this was an outright violation of international law. They did so by shelling civilians in Tsinhvali.They didn't just violate some hypothetical border. They literally tried to reclaim the entire breakaway province. Some _1500_ innocents have died as a direct result of this aggression. Russian is not "invading the entire country", it is performing a series of preventative strikes (so beloved by the USA) on military bases to _prevent_ further military actions by Georgia and force Georgia so stop the war. Keep in mind that 90% of all Southern Ossetians hold russian citizenship.
Apparently "preventative strikes" on Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever by the USA is perfectly okay even in the name of the so-called "War on Terrorism", yet when Russian military actually tries to enforce a ceasefire and stop the Georgians from cutting the Ossetians to pieces (again, like the tried in the 90s), you get "omghee teh Russians have invaded teh poowah Georgians". What a joke.
Now, while Southern Ossetia is de-jure part of Georgia, it is defacto a sovereign nation. Remember Kosovo? This isn't any different. Except for that a fragile peace has been actively enforced by Russian peacekeepers for more than 10 years while the three sides (abkhazia, souther ossetia and georgia) were failing to reach a consensus. If there was any hope for the creation of semi-autonomous regions within Georgia - that hope is lost. You don't really think the Ossetians and Abhazians are going to want to be a part of Georgia after this? Georgia literally has 0 diplomatic credits now after repeatedly repudating on and violating international agreements.
I don't understand people tagging stuff like this "hard hack". Sure, it's not as trivial as installing XP or even Linux or some flavor of BSD, but let's see.
Is there any original development done? Nope... just leveraging existing OSx86 work and other odds and ends around Darwin/x86. You're doing the work of an OEM. All you need to do is find a hardare platform reasonably close to one of the Macs (not hard, it's all Intel based), or pluck and pick some third-party drivers. Yay. Is it a hack? Yes. Hard hack? No... the dude that cracked the iPhone was a "hard hack".
The article is FUD. Clearly, "Linux" is supported. It just says that the only distro officially supported is SUSE. Everything else is in the "hey, I got it to work" domain. And seriously... it not their job to make sure it works with every distro. Their job is to make sure the linux kernel can run efficiently in it. That's it.
Ah. So another guy said something and you're talking it for the holy writ. Let me guess - you know next to nothing about OS and kernel internals, right?
David Cutler was responsible for DEC RSX-11M, DEC VMS and Windows NT. He designed and wrote 3 operating systems, not just cloned an existing one. Now, that doesn't make him necessarily the lead-all authority on the subject matter, but Linus is pretty much talking out of his ass.
Now, keep in mind that all the lead kernel hackers out there like to talk out of their ass and are incredibly full of it - it doesn't really matter if it's Theo, Linus or David. If you were to put all of them (add DJB to the bunch as well.. for kicks), the world would probably explode from their egos colliding. Their intelligence doesn't say much about their social skills, and you would be an idiot to take everything any one person says to be the absolute truth.
The problem with debating with people like you is that you know next to nothing, but are very zealous, idealistic and fervent... and are very open to other peoples' and organization's FUD, which they too spread for their own nefarious goals. The FSF there isn't much different from other companies and organizations in that regard.
Loadable firmware isn't particularly a feature of hardware targetting windows systems. Its the hardware designers ensuring that bugs may be fixed later on and ultimately provides more value add on and reduces development and production costs. Where before you had a mask ROM on a card, then you got flash, and now you might not even put any ROM storage on it at all. Especially if the device in question would never be used in a legacy boot scenario, where it might need to be fully functional from the get go.
A lot of the controller chips these days (especially some DSPs) do not contain any ROM storage, so its the driver's job to upload the firmware to the device. This, again, has nothing to with any Microsoft tax, Microsoft SDKs, Microsoft API, Microsoft period. The way the firmware is uploaded obviously depends heavily on the actual controller/DSP and architecture of the physical device.
The stuff you pasted in is FUD. Apparently, the FSF these days doesn't like the actual code that runs on the physical device... you know... on the embedded microcontrollers and DSPs. They didn't seem to give a damn when it was burned into mask ROMs or FLASH chips, but when it sits as a "blob" on disk storage it seems to give them the fits. Now, that may be a valid argument to bitch about, but this has less to do with "open software" and more with "open hardware". Last I checked, some of these companies aren't even willing to publish the device specs to write ANY sort of driver.
Once again, "loadable firmware" has nothing to do with NDIS. You don't like NDIS because it means you need to use a Windows-targetted driver? Is that it? Then implement UNDI or ODI... assuming your device has PXE boot drivers or Novell network drivers, you're set.
What really bothers me about having arguments with people like you is that you readily eat other people's FUD (in this case FSFs), but lack the technical underpinnings to see through the smoke and handwaving involved.
NDIS is driver interface specification for network drivers. NDIS follows the idea of port/miniport drivers - i.e. rigid and specific interfaces designed to prevent kernel implementation details from affecting drivers - for example, NT operating systems have set interfaces for SCSI HBA drivers, video drivers, network drivers. The overarching idea being writing drivers that are hardware dependent but are not too tied to the kernel.
NDIS is an interface. All network cards under windows need a network card driver, and the later HAS to conform to NDIS. The manufacturer, however may have decided not to release the specs for their hardware, and thus there is no Linux or BSD drivers available. Hence, implementing NDIS means that drivers conforming to the NDIS spec may be used. Just like implementing the SCSI port interface would allow NT SCSI drivers to be easily used (this has been done by some amateur open source operating systems). There is no "Microsoft bugs and malice" involved in an interface specification and any bugs occuring would be solely the domain of either poor implementation of NDIS or by bugs explicitely in the vendor-provided network driver. You're a complete tool to suggest otherwise. There is no "firmware game", and these network cards aren't braindead - you are.
Linus, btw, has just said that a public kernel interface is "tained". I call bullshit.
Try getting some reading comprehension classes. It likely will not run on whatever hardware you have - VPC ftw.
If your "actual job" prevents you from looking into things that enhance your personal and professional growth and that are interesting and are at the forefront of latest research.... get another job. Yours apparently sucks.
Forget the ideology. What I want to know is, has anybody here installed it/used it and what are their opinions? Why don't you, uh, have a clue and download it yourself and look at it?
Its 60MB compressed and compiles in 40 seconds. Don't be lame.
It's a research project, focusing on designing reliable, dependable, secure and low-overhead systems. You get code - written in C++, IA-32 assembly and Sing#.
Exactly. Who is to say Brian Valentine isn't responsible for Vista's failures during development and in release? After all - it appears he didn't manage the project in good faith.
It was only a matter of time before some fucker invoked Godwin's law. Congratulations on being that fucker.
Power users don't whinge about there not being a GUI, power users just figure out how to do what they want and do it.
Power users also know how to fucking spell. Go take some remedial writing classes before you try posting again. You forgot to add - power users also know how to use the enter key;-)
I'm forced to conclude that the majority of Slashdot's most vehement and fervent posters are autistic inhabitants of their parents' basements, with no sense of humor at all.
Cyrilllic actually originated from the Greek alphabet.
Looking at the capitals (lower case greek being a medieval invention... nevermind cyrillic lower case)
A - A B - B 'G' - 'G' (written the same way, that Slashdot cannot show because it sucks) 'D' - looks very similar E - Same X ('H' sound) - same P ('R' sound) - same 'P' sound - same 'T' sound - same 'L' sound - same 'Th' sound - was present in pre-revolution russian 'OO' sound - Looks a lot like 'ipsilon', which used to be uepsilon, and in modern greek still sounds like a 'OO' when written like 'ou'. 'O' sound - same 'M' sound - same 'EE' sound - came from the greek 'H' (eeta) 'K' sound - same 'N' sound - looks like the latin 'H', came from the Greek 'N'. 'F' sound - Same 'S' sound - Came from the the Greek sigma, and still looks a lot like the 'at-the-end' version of it. 'Psi' - Same, still used in church slavonic 'Ksi' - Same. still used in church slavonic 'Z' sound - came from Dzeta 'Omega' - Used to be present in cyrillic as well.
...is right two times a day. You can't seriously think you're fighting world poverty by providing these kids with laptop.
I'd be willing to extend it a bit further. If you're feeling guilt over your social standing and wish to help out the poor, there is NO need to go as far as Africa. There is not a single country on this planet, barring maybe Lichtenstein or something of similar nature, that does not have a problem with the poor. Americans - I suggest helping the "urban" and the "doun Souf" or Appalachia-inhabitants first.
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Did you read it? I wrote about the citizenship implying that Russia is also protecting the interests of its citizens.
State-controlled? No more so than FOX and CNN.
Sooo... how's Iraq going?
The have been defacto sovereign since 1992. Never been a part of Georgia. Georgia claiming so after the fall of USSR doesn't make it so.
And yes - Genocide. That's what happened until a 1992 moratorium was enforced. It is also what is happening now, apparently. The casualties on the Ossetian side now are 2000 civilians and counting. Plus countless wounded and thousands displaced and with a refugee status fleeing to Northern Ossetia.
But hey, just keep watching CNN, the Beeb, and FOX and calling others "fucking idiots".
Why? Saakashvili is pretty much NATO's lapdog. He came to power amid a series of pretty much US-encouraged (if not orchestrated, but the money trail is obvious) "colored revolutions" in many of the Post-Soviet Republics. Everything Saakashvili has done as a president has destabilized the situation in the Caucasus.
What Georgia did _was_ an act of war. They invaded a defacto sovereign nation, violating a 1992 accord, and this was an outright violation of international law. They did so by shelling civilians in Tsinhvali.They didn't just violate some hypothetical border. They literally tried to reclaim the entire breakaway province. Some _1500_ innocents have died as a direct result of this aggression. Russian is not "invading the entire country", it is performing a series of preventative strikes (so beloved by the USA) on military bases to _prevent_ further military actions by Georgia and force Georgia so stop the war. Keep in mind that 90% of all Southern Ossetians hold russian citizenship.
Apparently "preventative strikes" on Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever by the USA is perfectly okay even in the name of the so-called "War on Terrorism", yet when Russian military actually tries to enforce a ceasefire and stop the Georgians from cutting the Ossetians to pieces (again, like the tried in the 90s), you get "omghee teh Russians have invaded teh poowah Georgians". What a joke.
Now, while Southern Ossetia is de-jure part of Georgia, it is defacto a sovereign nation. Remember Kosovo? This isn't any different. Except for that a fragile peace has been actively enforced by Russian peacekeepers for more than 10 years while the three sides (abkhazia, souther ossetia and georgia) were failing to reach a consensus. If there was any hope for the creation of semi-autonomous regions within Georgia - that hope is lost. You don't really think the Ossetians and Abhazians are going to want to be a part of Georgia after this? Georgia literally has 0 diplomatic credits now after repeatedly repudating on and violating international agreements.
I don't understand people tagging stuff like this "hard hack". Sure, it's not as trivial as installing XP or even Linux or some flavor of BSD, but let's see. Is there any original development done? Nope... just leveraging existing OSx86 work and other odds and ends around Darwin/x86. You're doing the work of an OEM. All you need to do is find a hardare platform reasonably close to one of the Macs (not hard, it's all Intel based), or pluck and pick some third-party drivers. Yay. Is it a hack? Yes. Hard hack? No... the dude that cracked the iPhone was a "hard hack".
Wow. You couldn't be any more wrong.
The article is FUD. Clearly, "Linux" is supported. It just says that the only distro officially supported is SUSE. Everything else is in the "hey, I got it to work" domain. And seriously... it not their job to make sure it works with every distro. Their job is to make sure the linux kernel can run efficiently in it. That's it.
Ah. So another guy said something and you're talking it for the holy writ. Let me guess - you know next to nothing about OS and kernel internals, right?
David Cutler was responsible for DEC RSX-11M, DEC VMS and Windows NT. He designed and wrote 3 operating systems, not just cloned an existing one. Now, that doesn't make him necessarily the lead-all authority on the subject matter, but Linus is pretty much talking out of his ass.
Now, keep in mind that all the lead kernel hackers out there like to talk out of their ass and are incredibly full of it - it doesn't really matter if it's Theo, Linus or David. If you were to put all of them (add DJB to the bunch as well.. for kicks), the world would probably explode from their egos colliding. Their intelligence doesn't say much about their social skills, and you would be an idiot to take everything any one person says to be the absolute truth.
The problem with debating with people like you is that you know next to nothing, but are very zealous, idealistic and fervent... and are very open to other peoples' and organization's FUD, which they too spread for their own nefarious goals. The FSF there isn't much different from other companies and organizations in that regard.
Loadable firmware isn't particularly a feature of hardware targetting windows systems. Its the hardware designers ensuring that bugs may be fixed later on and ultimately provides more value add on and reduces development and production costs. Where before you had a mask ROM on a card, then you got flash, and now you might not even put any ROM storage on it at all. Especially if the device in question would never be used in a legacy boot scenario, where it might need to be fully functional from the get go.
A lot of the controller chips these days (especially some DSPs) do not contain any ROM storage, so its the driver's job to upload the firmware to the device. This, again, has nothing to with any Microsoft tax, Microsoft SDKs, Microsoft API, Microsoft period. The way the firmware is uploaded obviously depends heavily on the actual controller/DSP and architecture of the physical device.
The stuff you pasted in is FUD. Apparently, the FSF these days doesn't like the actual code that runs on the physical device... you know... on the embedded microcontrollers and DSPs. They didn't seem to give a damn when it was burned into mask ROMs or FLASH chips, but when it sits as a "blob" on disk storage it seems to give them the fits. Now, that may be a valid argument to bitch about, but this has less to do with "open software" and more with "open hardware". Last I checked, some of these companies aren't even willing to publish the device specs to write ANY sort of driver.
Once again, "loadable firmware" has nothing to do with NDIS. You don't like NDIS because it means you need to use a Windows-targetted driver? Is that it? Then implement UNDI or ODI... assuming your device has PXE boot drivers or Novell network drivers, you're set.
What really bothers me about having arguments with people like you is that you readily eat other people's FUD (in this case FSFs), but lack the technical underpinnings to see through the smoke and handwaving involved.
NDIS is driver interface specification for network drivers. NDIS follows the idea of port/miniport drivers - i.e. rigid and specific interfaces designed to prevent kernel implementation details from affecting drivers - for example, NT operating systems have set interfaces for SCSI HBA drivers, video drivers, network drivers. The overarching idea being writing drivers that are hardware dependent but are not too tied to the kernel.
NDIS is an interface. All network cards under windows need a network card driver, and the later HAS to conform to NDIS. The manufacturer, however may have decided not to release the specs for their hardware, and thus there is no Linux or BSD drivers available. Hence, implementing NDIS means that drivers conforming to the NDIS spec may be used. Just like implementing the SCSI port interface would allow NT SCSI drivers to be easily used (this has been done by some amateur open source operating systems). There is no "Microsoft bugs and malice" involved in an interface specification and any bugs occuring would be solely the domain of either poor implementation of NDIS or by bugs explicitely in the vendor-provided network driver. You're a complete tool to suggest otherwise. There is no "firmware game", and these network cards aren't braindead - you are.
Linus, btw, has just said that a public kernel interface is "tained". I call bullshit.
Judging from his self-proclaimed "pr0n collection", the only one "wanking around" is the GP.
Try getting some reading comprehension classes. It likely will not run on whatever hardware you have - VPC ftw.
If your "actual job" prevents you from looking into things that enhance your personal and professional growth and that are interesting and are at the forefront of latest research.... get another job. Yours apparently sucks.
No one cares.
Why don't you try commenting on the actual Singularity project, or the RDK, instead of whining about the license? Can't? Too hard?
Its 60MB compressed and compiles in 40 seconds. Don't be lame.
It's a research project, focusing on designing reliable, dependable, secure and low-overhead systems. You get code - written in C++, IA-32 assembly and Sing#.
Add to that reading /., digg, and /b/.
Exactly. Who is to say Brian Valentine isn't responsible for Vista's failures during development and in release? After all - it appears he didn't manage the project in good faith.
Power users don't whinge about there not being a GUI, power users just figure out how to do what they want and do it.
Power users also know how to fucking spell. Go take some remedial writing classes before you try posting again. You forgot to add - power users also know how to use the enter key
Heh that fiestaware stuff is pretty hot. I mean, you're safe holding it, but I wouldn't eat from it, or grind it up and snuff it or something.
Only if you intended to run your favorite FOSS *NIX or Windows on it in the first place.
For those looking for OS X in a similar form factor won't be buying the Thinkpad. I thought that to be obvious.
what about non-alcoholic beer?
I'm forced to conclude that the majority of Slashdot's most vehement and fervent posters are autistic inhabitants of their parents' basements, with no sense of humor at all.
-1.
Cyrilllic actually originated from the Greek alphabet.
Looking at the capitals (lower case greek being a medieval invention... nevermind cyrillic lower case)
A - A
B - B
'G' - 'G' (written the same way, that Slashdot cannot show because it sucks)
'D' - looks very similar
E - Same
X ('H' sound) - same
P ('R' sound) - same
'P' sound - same
'T' sound - same
'L' sound - same
'Th' sound - was present in pre-revolution russian
'OO' sound - Looks a lot like 'ipsilon', which used to be uepsilon, and in modern greek still sounds like a 'OO' when written like 'ou'.
'O' sound - same
'M' sound - same
'EE' sound - came from the greek 'H' (eeta)
'K' sound - same
'N' sound - looks like the latin 'H', came from the Greek 'N'.
'F' sound - Same
'S' sound - Came from the the Greek sigma, and still looks a lot like the 'at-the-end' version of it.
'Psi' - Same, still used in church slavonic
'Ksi' - Same. still used in church slavonic
'Z' sound - came from Dzeta
'Omega' - Used to be present in cyrillic as well.
So hows that RealDoll?
...is right two times a day. You can't seriously think you're fighting world poverty by providing these kids with laptop.
I'd be willing to extend it a bit further. If you're feeling guilt over your social standing and wish to help out the poor, there is NO need to go as far as Africa. There is not a single country on this planet, barring maybe Lichtenstein or something of similar nature, that does not have a problem with the poor. Americans - I suggest helping the "urban" and the "doun Souf" or Appalachia-inhabitants first.