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Meetup.com Ends Free Meetups

jalefkowit writes "It was nice while it lasted... massively popular social-organizing service Meetup.com has announced that from here on out, they will be charging a $19/month fee to the designated organizer of each Meetup registered with the service. Regular users (those other than meetup organizers) can continue to use it free of charge, though they suggest that some organizers may wish to split the cost with their members. Users who paid for the Meetup+ service get the fees waived for one group of their choice (if they're not organizers, they can pass this benefit on to someone who is). Here's more information about the move and why they made it."

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  1. And so ends the meetup.com dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I expect to see they're out of business by this time next year.

    1. Re:And so ends the meetup.com dream by k-0s · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree and I'm sure Google will only help their demise by adding a "Google Meetup" feature to be followed about 2 months later by Yahoo. Seems to be the trend as of late.

  2. whatever happened to... by kangpeh · · Score: 5, Funny

    what ever happened to good ol' goin to clubs, getting drunk, findin a girl, who is as drunk as u, having a good night, and never seein that girl again, mutually?

    1. Re:whatever happened to... by mp3LM · · Score: 5, Funny

      STDs

    2. Re:whatever happened to... by piltdownman84 · · Score: 5, Funny

      My wife caught me.

  3. alternative? by SolitaryMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This will just move most of the activities to some other place.

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  4. Heard this from Democracy for America by payote · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's Howard Dean's old organization - an offshoot of his presidential campaign that used meetups early on. They'll be picking up the tab for Meetups of their DFA groups for a while. But I expect someone will come up with a CC version of the 'meetup' structure... you can't patent a gathering of like-minded people can you?

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    1. Re:Heard this from Democracy for America by RotJ · · Score: 4, Funny

      The great thing about America is that you can patent anything. Brings a tear to my eye.

  5. Am I the only one? by npietraniec · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who never heard of this website?

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Who never heard of this website?"

      I heard about it, I even used it, but frankly, meetup.com makes some of the same old tired mistakes too many websites make.

      The site isn't transparently easy to navigate. There's no way (or I didn't see one) to search by meet-up time or day. ("Hey I'm free Tuesdays, what's going on Tuesdays.")

      To see the people or the number of people signed-up for a particular meet-up, you had to register with meet-up.com, then "join" that meet-up. Since meet-ups were canceled when fewer than three people signed up, you couldn't effectively browse for what looked like it was really going to happen without first signing up. Pain in the ass.

      You can't indicate, for a meet-up you are interested in, that the meet-up time doesn't work. You can vote for a location, but there's no easy way to indicate what sort of locations work for you: "I don't like smoky bars; I can do in the city but not the 'burbs; near the subway". And once you did sign up for a meet-up, you kept getting annoying email asking that you confirm.

      Some of these things make sense, but much of it was the typical website desire to control and constrain its users, probably at the behest of marketeers who wanted to "track" everything and everybody.

      And the irony is, if by registering, a user could make a profile of what works and doesn't work for him for a meet-up, the marketeers could have mined a hell of a lot more information, information that users would have willingly given.

      But since the site was a pain in the ass to use, without that pain benefiting me in any way, I stopped using it.

      Websites need to realize that people aren't going to change their lives to conform to what's easiest for marketeers to track. When they do realize that -- like craigslist -- they become popular. When they don't -- well, it's time to start charging fees and finding cheaper offices.

    2. Re:Am I the only one? by Lemuel · · Score: 4, Informative

      They did fix some of your issues in last fall's overhaul. They don't cancel meetings with less than three people anymore. They created the role of organizer, who picks a location, hopefully by consulting with the others through email or the group message board. There is also a place to add a comment when you RSVP, so you can say that you can't make it because it is in the 'burbs. You can control the email you get and none of it is for confirmation, just reminding.

      You still can't search by date, though, and you do have to belong to a meetup group to see what is going on with it.

  6. At first I thought it was bad... by taxman_10m · · Score: 4, Insightful

    However, it's only $9 a month for those of us who are already organizers. My group consistently gets 9 people at the meetup and we usually spend in total $100+ on food and drinks. If everyone that showed up just threw in $1 then the dues for that month would be paid off (and even if I didn't get the whole $9, I'd just top it off myself). Not that big a deal as I see it.

    Of course it probably does discourage groups that are not already established from forming or growing...

  7. To hell with that... by bergeron76 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are much better ways to organize "real people". Meetup.com was fun while it lasted, but I'll be one of the first to remove links to it from my site.

    They offered a decent service while it lasted, and _yes_ they should get something for their efforts; but they _shouldn't_ sabotage their users to get compensation.

    They'll die unless they re-create or re-evaluate their efforts within the next 3 weeks.

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  8. Braindead by fremen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    See, here's the problem: what Meetup did is really not that far beyond a good PHP programmer who knows a thing or two about MySQL. It's cool, but we're not talking about something like Salesforce.com or Turbo Tax Online. This is a simple web app.

    And here's the thing, someone is going to recreate Meetup. Their new page will have less brand recognition, and people will probably pay $19 for the Meetup name for a little while. However, this will not last forever. Meetup isn't Microsoft -- they have no extended brand or monopoly power in the face of competition.

    Prediction: Meetup.com will be appearing on the Dot-Com Deadpool shortly.

    BTW, if I were running Meetup, I would have investigated a completely different approach. These little web apps that become big should think about extending their services for a fee. For example, something like customized invitations for $20 a box or a set of subscriber only options.

    1. Re:Braindead by snorklewacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > See, here's the problem: what Meetup did is really not that far beyond a good PHP programmer who knows a thing or two about MySQL.

      No, it isn't technically complicated at all. But there's not a whole lot of business plans that will fly on ad revenue alone, and meetup's niche is too small. I'm surprised citysearch or digitalcity didn't borg them long ago.

      I doubt you or I could even pay the hosting costs for such a site on ad revenue alone, let alone paying support and maintenance. You really need to stop thinking that the technical implementation is the magic that makes it all work and that you possess the keys to the kingdom by having more than passing knowledge of the technology. There's just a lot more to running a business than that.

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  9. I don't quite get the point.. by proteonic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After reading the FAQ, I don't quite see the benefit of this service. They don't seem to offer anything that isn't already freely available (communications and email, they say). As far as professionally printed materials for your club.. anyone who's willing to go to the effort of putting together a club, I'd imagine, would be motivated enough to save the 19 bucks and get things printed themselves. Is there really a market for this service?

    I just don't get it.. is there some target group of motivated but lethargic people that are willing to put in the effort to organize, run and manage a club, but somehow, find keeping a list of members' emails a significant barrier to achieving their goals?

    I'm ranting a bit, but I'm quite surprised. This is one of the oddest services I've seen on the net. It goes against the intuition of online dating sites, for example. Where the clients may be a little more reserved and slightly anti-social (thus the need for online dating). Meetup is actually targeting what appears to be a socially very active group of clients. I wonder how they're doing.

    Any slashdotters using this service? Feel free to enlighten me.
  10. Shooting Self in Foot by Comatose51 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been signed up to that site for a while. Unless your group is well established, it's very difficult to get it going. The Dallas Chess meetup group collapsed. The cycling group meets never worked. Most of the members were inactive. The administrators are really killing any chance of these fledgling groups growing with this idea. They've done very little to promote as is. The idea of critical mass somehow managed to escape them. Charge well-established groups with N members but leave the little ones so they have time to grow. As it is, members can't directly message each other with their Meetup+ membership. It is very difficult to organize anything if you can't contact other members via email and only via the forums or the organizer. I've tried explaining critical mass to them but they don't seen to value it. Once a group get big enough, the numbers will attract other people and activities can happen and repeat. Below that level, things just fall apart. No one goes to meets so the newcomers become inactive, etc. When the next newcomers arrive, the old members are already inactive so there's not enough people to do anything.

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  11. Meetin.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try http://meetin.org/ There is most likely a group where you are, (organized by city), all over the world. Instead of being limited to one focus, there are a wide variety of events to choose from and people to meet in each city. If your city is not yet added, you can easily have it added and start planning events!

  12. What a brilliant idea! by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is pure genius!

    I already get emails from half the groups I'm signed up for saying "Your group has no organizer, would you like to volunteer?". Up until now, I didn't volunteer because I wasn't sure I'd have the time -- now that I get to volunteer AND PAY $20 FOR THE PRIVILEGE, I'll get right on it!

    I'm sure local meetup groups will really take off now! Next month maybe they'll finally add the "pay $5 and get kicked in the nuts" service we've all been clamoring for!

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  13. Re:Another Slashdot Advertisement! Nice! by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Once again, Slashdot advertises for a service that...
    Dude, chill out. The MeetUp service was totally free for a long time. You can see the original Slashdot story, plugging MeetUp and announcing the creation of Slashdot MeetUps, from almost three years ago.

    This story is relevant because there are a lot of people who actually went to various Slashdot MeetUps. If you want to bitch about paid ads on Slashdot, call me when the next Roland Piquepaille story is posted.
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  14. There is a better similar system by unk1911 · · Score: 4, Informative

    MEETin.org is a free, much more popular system and has very thriving communities in New York, D.C., and other large metropolitan areas. I was a member of both but meetup.com events never really got big enough to get excited over while MEETin peeps are much more fun to hang out with.

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  15. What, $19/month or "small fee"? by Kosi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On one hand, they talk about having to pay a small fee, but the only numbers they talk about are $9 or $19/month, which are neither even near the small fee they talk about.

    Can someone please clear this up for me?

  16. Re:No and for a reason! by deimtee · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and with the psychic group they don't even tell you where or when the meetup is.

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  17. This part concerns me ... by adzoox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This part of the revision concerns me...

    Can Organizers profit from their Groups?
    Sure, as long as you comply with community standards (and Meetup's Terms of Service).


    As a business owner I don't mind anyone using my facilities for public free use ... but when they turn MY facility in to a paid venue, that concerns me and I'm sure would concern coffee shops and book stores (the most common place for meetups)

    If a group is meeting in my place and it is not sponsored by me, it must be free and inclusive of anyone that wishes to join. If I am sponsoring it, then I have the right to exclude anyone who doesn't want to pay dues.

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