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An Audio Sampler Rube Goldberg Would Love

Thiago writes "Here is an audio sampler I made with 4 IR LEDs and 4 IR sensors. When something reflective goes by one of the sensor/LED combos, it triggers an event on the computer. On the videos, I mount the device on a turntable and use coins to trigger sound samples of my choice. I'd also like to make the project open-source (or whatever applies to hardware) but know nothing about licenses for this."

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  1. Video Links... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just in case site is ./'ed c/o Archive.Org Video 1 Video 2

  2. Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I made something similar, consisting of several metres of wire, a video camera, a microphone, loudspeaker, a hammer, some heavy duty duct tape, and several cats.

    Worked fantastically well, until the damn RSPCA turned up.

    Told me it would have been fine if I'd only used poodles.

    1. Re:Prior art by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

      I tried pigs. But they kept squealing on me...

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    2. Re:Prior art by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

      I used a parrot, but it just sat there, pining for the fjords.

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  3. BallDroppings in hardware? by troon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So this is like a physical version of the curiously addictive BallDroppings, then?

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  4. interesting by mmkkbb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A friend of mine did something similar for a project using IR sensors. In that case, he had a break in the beam trigger a sample, so he could have a LASER HARP

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    1. Re:interesting by shaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I went to a show here in Sweden a couple of months ago. It was 5 guys who were all awesome drummers. They made music using glasses, bowls of water, and different drums and rhythmic instruments.

      Anyway, they had this great setup with basically what you are describing, except that the samples were controlled by some 10-15 laser beams that shot right out from the back of the stage. When you broke a beam, a sample started or stopped. They could control it either by having the sample playing while the beam was broken, or start/stop the sample by quickly breaking the beam and "let it through" again.

      It made for an extremely good show.

      They also had a giant kind of a marimba, that was perhaps 8 meters tall and 15 meters wide, with two guys standing by the ceiling and playing.

      The last number of the show was all 5 guys playing in sync with Gene Krupa (perhaps the greatest drummer ever) showing him doing the number on a projector at the back of the stage.

      All in all, a great show.

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  5. Re:My God, a real Geek story by LewsTherinKinslayer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unless the RIAA decides to claim this is breaking the copy rights of the sample music!

    or SCO claims that the IR LEDs are using a technology they developed but cannot be released; it's a trade secret!

    but can Gentoo load and play the samples more quickly thanks to its more streamlined and modern kernel?!

    /. always finds a way.

    (ps: I'm just kidding. We all know that Apple already developed this technology and there's is far cooler and superior thanks to its scroll wheel.)

  6. Awesome by skurk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is bloody awesome!

    Now, I'm not sure that this is something your local DJ Sixpack would use, but I'm pretty sure you could turn this into a toy for children:

    Imagine a record with holes you can fill with plastic pins - spin the record, and hear what you just made! It would exercise the children's sense of rythm and logic. Hell, make it a standalone unit while you're at it, and make cardridges that hold the samples. Drums, guitars, voices, bird sounds, car sounds, etc.

    As for the license, it depends on what you want in return. Good karma or money? Or both?

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  7. Fun idea! by JanneM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One suggested improvement: have the reflectivity control some variable (like pitch). small/dark/further away reflector will give you a low note, and a large/bright/close one will give you a high note.

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  8. A bit of background by Cougem · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:A bit of background by mr+fog · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the British side of things, it's also worth checking out W. Heath Robinson's work. In the UK, one look at a machine like that might make you say "that looks a bit heath-robinson".

  9. Ask and you shall receive... by pongo000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Everything you ever wanted to know about open source licenses and more!

    Remember, anything you read here about open source licensing is only an opinion. Educate yourself!

  10. Re:You don't need to open-source it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A patent only gives you the right to sue someone who infringes on your patent. Deepest pockets win. Better to put in the public domain so that no one can grab it and claim ownership.....

  11. Creative Commons by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know any licenses specifically designed with hardware in mind, but why not use one of the Creative Commons licenses?

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  12. How exactly is this a sampler? by argent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd describe this as a sequencer, not a sampler.

  13. hardware "license" by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I bet you didn't already apply for a patent? then you just published it(making it unpatentable, even by you) and made the idea free for all to use.

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    1. Re:hardware "license" by robindmorris · · Score: 5, Informative
      This is true only in Europe. In Europe, any publication prior to patent filing is not allowed.

      In the USA, you have a year after publication to file for a patent.

  14. Building on your idea by sczimme · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Imagine a record with holes you can fill with plastic pins - spin the record, and hear what you just made! It would exercise the children's sense of rythm and logic.

    The first thing that popped into my head was that gadget/toy that consists of a rectangular frame filled with small parallel metal rods; the rods can move in Y (but not in X) to make 3-D images of objects. Often they are used to make replicas of people's faces. What the heck are they called?? Grrr.

    Anyway, picture a record-like disc of these movable rods. The child can move the rods, fix them in place and then play the creation. This fits with your idea: the disc would be heavier but the rods would be captive (and thus much harder for the child to lose them)

    Hell, make it a standalone unit while you're at it, and make cardridges that hold the samples. Drums, guitars, voices, bird sounds, car sounds, etc.

    With a simple process for converting the audio to a sound file and a USB port for exporting the child's music. :-)

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  15. Re:You don't need to open-source it. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ah, but to patent it you have to tell people how it works ... how confusing :)

    Which is why WD-40 is not patented. They would have to tell the world what is in their product and they don't want to do that.

    And before anyone remarks that I'm wrong, I just called the WD-40 corporation to verify this. I had heard about this a long time ago and wanted to confirm this information before I posted.

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  16. Its neat but... by RattRigg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its neat but its going to be a little cumbersome in the phone booth.

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  17. Finally, a midi guitar that doesn't suck by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You could finally have more than one sensor in between frets on a guitar, so that MIDI pitch bends and such sound realistic. You'd have to wear a shiny glove to play it, but that could be cool, so long as it's not sequened. Of course, I officially copyright this idea as of..... now.

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  18. Total Misrepresentation of a Rube Goldberg Concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This device is simple. If you had a quarter dispensed by a complex pathway, say using wires, traps, egg timers, cats yowling after having their tails smashed, etc., THEN you would be approaching Rube Goldberg territory.

  19. So... by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's basically 4 switches that signal a program to play different soundtracks.

    What would be interesting if it wasn't all digital signal, and he threw in an A/D converter so he could detect the IR light brightness, so a dull coin would produce a different sound than a nice and shiny coin... so you have more combinations.

    Just having 4 on/off signals isn't that impressive right now, but it does have potential (of course, after a while you'd probably want to migrate to the serial port for speed and complexity).

  20. Easily amused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't this the high tech equivalant of putting baseball cards in the spokes of your bicycle and then being amazed how they sound different depending on how fast you go.

  21. Get a life... by menace3society · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'd also like to make the project open-source (or whatever applies to hardware) but know nothing about licenses for this.

    News flash: not every piece of freely available information has to be open-source! If you want others to be be able to use/improve your idea, publish the technical specifications and tell (clearly) how you did it. If you don't, don't tell anyone about it and maybe file a patent. It's that simple.

    Open source licenses for hardware.... now I've heard everything.

  22. She beat you by 55 years by ajnsue · · Score: 2, Informative

    Great story about Daphne Oram of the BBC RadioPhonics laboratory. She came up with a similarly inspired musical-thingy in the late 50's. Albeit entirely analog (analogue?) http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/oramics /

  23. Re:You don't need to open-source it. by coopex · · Score: 3, Funny

    Egads man, I'm gonna be rich! What, with the secret formula to WD-40, and I craftily deduced that Tabasco sauce is cayenne pepper, vinegar and salt, I stand to make from these two products alone. I could be a trillionaire by using the recipes on the backs of many foodstuffs, why I just noticed that this can of Mountain Dew I'm drinking just gives away their secret! Those fools! MWAHAHAH! They're rue the day they made this slipup, oh the rueing shall be glorious with the gnashing of teeth and beating of breasts.

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  24. Re:Prior art: Raymond Scott's Circle Machine (1950 by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh, that link should have been: Raymond Scott's circle machine.

    So, to repeat: this 1950s contraption used a photocell at the end of a rotating arm: " The intensity of each light in this circle is individually adjustable. At the tip of the arm there is a photo cell. This cell is a part of an electronic sound generating system, so adjusted that the more light the cell 'sees' the higher the pitch of the sound produced. The cell also moves around in a circle at adjustable speeds. One of the controls, above the circle of lights, changes the pitch center of the complete cycle when required. As you will notice, there are many variable functions possible."

    The link has sound samples.

    I will use the Preview button. I will use the Preview button. I will use the Preview button...