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WiMax Hits 100 mph on Rails to Brighton

judgecorp writes "T-Mobile has put a Wi-Fi service on the London to Brighton Express commuter service. It uses WiMax (ok, pre-WiMax) for the uplink, and is cheap enough to put on any other long-distance rail service. One interesting thing is that they didn't need to wait for next year's "mobile" WiMax version: the system can handover between base stations at 100mph, using today's pre-WiMax (802.16d) products. The only drawback - in June the free trial ends, and we'll have to pay T-Mobile's high Wi-Fi charges."

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  1. Trains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    High charges? On the British rail network?

    NEVER!!!

    1. Re:Trains by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is no British Rail network. It got broken up and sold off 15 years ago.

      And, of course, since private enterprise is always much more efficient than public ownership, that's why today the railways are now safe, clean, cheap and reliable.

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    2. Re:Trains by l-ascorbic · · Score: 4, Informative

      You'll notice the gp wrote "British rail network" not "British Rail network". Of course there's a British rail network. It runs on track owned by Network Rail, with services operated by the TOCs. It may have many owners, but there's still a network. You can still use one ticket to travel between any two stations in the country.

    3. Re:Trains by BenjyD · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My sarcasm detector is off the scale...

      The government subsidy to the railways has just about trebled since privatisation, IIRC. Private enterprise efficiency my arse.

      If you're ever bored on a British train, find a ticket inspector who looks old enough to have been working since before privatisation and ask them if they prefer working for the privatised company.

    4. Re:Trains by Shisha · · Score: 4, Informative

      No you can't. Take London -> Birmingham as an example. You can buy cheap Chiltern tickets for trains that take ages and go via Oxford and Leam. Or you can buy more expensice Virgin tickets for trains that go via Coventry.

  2. 100 mph? by The+New+Andy · · Score: 4, Funny
    Call me once they get it working on those German trains that Einstein used to ride to work - the ones travelling near the speed of light.

    In a battle between WiMax and Doppler shift, I'm putting my money on Doppler.

  3. Great by gowen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If my experience of the London-Brighton line is anything to go by, the money would be much better spent :
    i) installing more seats or adding extra carriages
    ii) actually cleaning the inside of the trains from time to time.

    It's no use getting a WiFi connection if you have to stand up the whole bloody way.

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  4. 100mph? by gallondr00nk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Never mind the wi-fi, I'm impressed by the fact that a UK train reached 100mph in the first place.

    1. Re:100mph? by gowen · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Never mind the wi-fi, I'm impressed by the fact that a UK train reached 100mph in the first place.
      We had 100MPH trains back when American Railroads major passengers were migrant workers fleeing the Great Depression.
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  5. Yet another WiFi story... by __aailob1448 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I the only one getting tired of all these uninteresting stories about WiFi being available here or there?

    Yes, you can bridge hundreds of wireless routers and have humongous hot spots, yes you can get WiFi on moving spaces, yes you can go to the desert and have a connection over large distances and maybe beat this week's world record.

    We know that.We really do. WiFi is great, it's this awesome magic thing that allows you to download the interweb out of thin air. Now knock it the hell off.

    Thanks you.

  6. Commercial WiFi Clue-By-Four by MrNonchalant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When will T-Mobile, SBC, Telarama, et al all realize their wifi business model sucks? I mean seriously, 5 bucks an hour, 20 bucks a month? For scattered coffee shops and book stores that I maybe frequent once a week? None of them has anything near enough coverage to make a subscription worth my while and their hourly rates are way too high. Maybe for a certain sector of the populace, those earning six figures and those who spend a lot of time in coffee shops, this is acceptable, but to middle america (where the real money is) it stinks. Maybe if they all pulled their resources and allowed me to log into any of their collective hot spots for a reasonable (~$15) monthly fee I'd consider it.

  7. High Wi-fi Charges by shashark · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "and we'll have to pay T-Mobile's high Wi-Fi charges"

    There goes another brilliant service down the drain.

    High User Access Charges: The reason why services like these remain hugely unpopular.

    Irony though is, service providers spend a fraction of what they earn over these services. Yet the "its-a-premium-service-hence-we-milk-you" syndrome keeps them from bringing the charges down. When will the service providers understand that term premium is only notional. Mobile was a luxury only 10 years ago -- now a country like India as 100mn cell users -- why ? because its low-cost.

    Price is an entry barrier -- and high prices let less and less people use a service, and recommend it to other users. I just hope T-mobile understands that and keep the charges minimal, so that more users use it. And OEMs can provide more cheap solutions leveraging the service -- like wi-fi for train-staff communication.

  8. Re:Demand should lead supply by pklong · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bah ha ha ha. That would involve someone other than Branson buying new trains (not that it's improved service. Bransons 15 minutes off the journey doesn't help you when your journey is an hour late. Like on Saturday, and the seats are uncomfortable as well.).

    Besides the rust holes on the roof improve the WiMax signal reception.

    I've recently figured out why the South East is sticking to the ancient third rail system in use, despite the low maximum speed possible using it. It's so when we finally become a fully fledged third world country people will be able to ride on the roof of trains, just like you see in travel documentaries.

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  9. Three Bridges by phil-trick · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great, now I can stand on the platform at Three Bridges and get WiFi access for free for a few seco...

  10. It would be ironic... by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would be rather ironic if VOIP sounds better using a WiFi connection then it does using standard cell networks.

    Can you hear me? Now....now...how bout now? Wait just a sec, let me fire up Skype mobile. Ahhhh...much better. :)

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  11. Because they have no other choice? by rpjs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Take commuting into central London. Even with the outrageously high rail fares, it's still cheaper for most people to commute by train than car when you factor in the high-price of parking in central London, and not to mention the Congestion Charge.