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Minority Report UI For The Military

merryprankster writes "New Scientist is reporting that a 'Minority Report' style interface is being developed by defense company Raytheon. Users don a pair of reflective gloves and manipulate images projected on a panoramic screen. A mounted camera keeps track of hand movements and a computer interprets gestures. Raytheon has even employed John Underkoffler, the researcher who proposed the interface to the makers of the film. Now just wait till Billboards start scanning your iris."

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  1. pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    i wonder what viewing porn will be like with these new gloves.

    1. Re:pr0n by mboverload · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hard to watch porn when it keeps going up and down in the playlist.

    2. Re:pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Or.. *waves hand* this isn't teh pr0n you're looking for. err, I mean.. *waves* Hi boss! Yep, just checking these figures here, see? No problem.

      "Hi, slittle! Why the fuck are you masturbating to an Excel spreadsheet?"

  2. Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When will it carve wooden balls?

    1. Re:Yes, but by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd be more interested in whose names will be on the balls...

      [soldier at facility] "Alert the president. We have a black ball. It's the Ayatollah. He'll want to handle this one personally. Get the spider hole team ready. We leave in 5. We'll stay for 5 too."

      [2nd solider] "Sir! We have another ball -- red. It appears that North Korea is tipping on its Axis of Evil."

      [1st soldier] "You can ignore that one. We always do. A nutjob with nukes isn't nearly as scary as these dictatorial types with oil."

      IronChefMorimoto

  3. BORING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought it was going to be an interface consisting of three psychic kids in tanks making all your decisions before you. That would be much more useful.

    1. Re:BORING by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Funny
      I thought it was going to be an interface consisting of three psychic kids in tanks making all your decisions before you. That would be much more useful.

      They would do a better job than Bush. Hell, three not-so-psychic kids would do a better job than Bush.

      --

      Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

  4. Wow - this technology is so new.... by tonsofpcs · · Score: 4, Informative

    It has been being done for years by the film and video industry, albeit mainly not in realtime, but such places as the Liberty Science Center had interactive games that used contrasting colors to determine what the player was doing [they had basketball for sometime where you wore either a chroma-blue or chroma-green glove]

    1. Re:Wow - this technology is so new.... by plover · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Well, if you had position and orientation for each fingertip pad, there'd pretty much be only one position the hand could be in to achieve it. The rest of the parts of the fingers and hand could be interpolated.

      Try an experiment: fix your wrist, then position your fingertips in any configuration. Now, try moving any of your hand or finger bones while keeping the fingertips in the exact same position and orientation. It's very difficult, and you probably can't move those other bones too far.

      Besides, it would be very rare indeed if the orientation of the second and third knuckles independent of the fingertips would be relevant to the task being performed. And even if that were true, trying that experiment shows me the interpolated position probably wouldn't vary by more than a few degrees at most.

      Getting back to data gloves in general, I always thought the real data glove from many years ago was a clever piece of engineering. The one I remember seeing had an IR transceiver mounted on one side of each joint, and the IR beam was interrupted by variable width "vanes" affixed to the other side of each joint. The degree of flex was correlated to the amount of IR that was passed through the isolator. No moving or rotating parts to wear out (except for the glove,) and no friction for the user.

      --
      John
  5. More than a defence contractor by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Raytheon is more than a defence contractor. They make alot of commercial electronics, including alot of marine equipment such as radar and radios.

  6. Has potential (that's being wasted) by menace3society · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The advantage of using gloves is not to get a more intuitive, 3-D version of the mouse. The advantage to gloves is that you can have more than one (or two) pointers on a screen. Imagine using photoshop or some other editing software, and, instead of having to mouse around or hit keys to change tools, you just contracted a different finger. Touch typing is much faster than hunt-and-peck; why shouldn't the same be the case for graphical interfaces?

  7. Do they also replicate the part of the interface.. by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    .. where to copy a file from one side of the room to the other, they essentially use a ***giant floppy disk***? Sure, it was a cool floppy disk, with live action video playing on it, but still... its a floppy disk.

    You'd have thunk that by the time they had perfected 3D holography and VR manipulation, they could at least have kept up with some high-capacity networking. I guess not - floppys are the future!

  8. Jim Allchin: "That'll be in Longhorn too." by michaeldot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tomorrow's news today: Microsoft invites bloggers with high readership to dinner. Shows them previews of Minority Report style interface. Bloggers write gushing reports about it.

  9. I'm Impressed by Effugas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In tech, we often find ourselves referring to the Hollywood Operating System. You know, the one where every key press makes a "click" sound, and passwords are cracked one character at a time (admittedly, something that actually worked against Windows 9x file shares).

    I was actually impressed with the UI in Minority Report. I'm not saying it was necessarily perfect, but it wasn't obviously ridiculous either. There is a need to monitor information flows across many different sources, to simultaneously sense them, and to have the ability to integrate on demand. A large display with linkable data nodes is one approach that deserves further analysis.

  10. Re:This looks like a great recipe for an accident by michaeldot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then you better try the Apple solution: it will only come with one glove.

  11. Because it is exhausting by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is a reason none of these VR interfaces never go anywhere. The human body is not designed to hold it's arms suspended in mid-air for extende dperiods of time.

    Try it yourself - stick your hands in front of the monitor, a bit below level with your shoulders. Feel free to move them around as if you are "manipulating".

    Now, see how long you can hold them up there before your shoulders give out.

    Now compare that to how long you can use a keyboard and mouse in one session.

    It is not even in the same ballpark.

  12. the government hides spending better than that by mnemonic_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder what congressional district the defense company is located in?

    Raytheon has facilities in almost every state. They merged with Hughes a while back, and manufacture a wide variety of defense equipment, especially in the aerospace sector.

    And where in the field will this be used?

    The article says, in the field of satellite reconnaissance imagery. It'd be like using a mouse, except you can move more than one screen object at once with the fluidity of every day hand motions. Far more efficient.

    Am I the only one who gets scared when I imagine what a room in the pentagon might look like, with Generals wearing special glasses, and moving projected data off walls?

    Probably. Most men are made of sterner stuff.

  13. Interface by sbillard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Push/Pull
    Slide/Spin/Twist
    Grab/Grip/Grok/Associate
    Wipe/Toss
    ...So many more distinct gestures/commands are possilbe.
    I read a lot of Phillip K Dick and the interface portrayed in Minority Report was wonderfull.... not the goop-pool..... I'm refering to the the big screen Tom Cruise manipulated.... the goop-pool interface is the opposite extreme.
    Nice story...original author highly recommended.

    it makes me wonder. Which side are you on?

    Hoppy Harrington says "Hi"gher

  14. Re:Where do the $5,000 toilet seats go? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This appears to be wasteful spending.

    Someone probably said the same thing about ARPANET.

    I wonder what congressional district the defense company is located in?

    Edward J. Markey (Ranking Democrat on the Telecommunications and Internet subcommittee)

    Raytheon is based in Waltham, Massachussetts, but they have offices everywhere. Canada, Japan, Oz...
    And they are Linux friendly.

    And where in the field will this be used?
    One use might be a virtual sand table. Not everything the military does is 'in the field'.

    Am I the only one who gets scared when I imagine what a room in the pentagon might look like, with Generals wearing special glasses, and moving projected data off walls?

    Probably.
    Generals don't move data. They direct Col's and Majors to do that.

  15. Re:This looks like a great recipe for an accident by AJWM · · Score: 5, Funny

    the Apple solution: it will only come with one glove.

    Correction: a mitten.

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    -- Alastair
  16. Re:Big deal... by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Funny
    when they get the computer interface from swordfish...

    The one that gives you a blowjob while you code?

  17. Add voice too. by headkase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As other posters have pointed out, it would be difficult to hold your arms up for extended periods. However, if paired with good voice recognition imagine mostly talking with occasionally moving/adjusting objects.

    --
    Shh.