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Finnish Firm Claims Fake P2P Hash Technology
An anonymous reader writes "As reported by The Inquirer, a Finnish company known as Viralg Oy claim to have developed software that can create a junk file with the same hash as a genuine p2p download. This, according to the company, can altogether stop the sharing of copywritten files by flooding p2p networks with corrupt/junk data, which then spreads through the network, causing less and less of the original file to be available. However, with the resolve of the p2p userbase, is this software really going to 'beat all Peer 2 Peer pirates at their own game,' or simply prove a minor annoyance?"
Bah! Screw you guys. I'll just make my own P2P hash algorithm. With blackjack. And hookers. In fact, forget the P2p hash algorithm. And the blackjack.
Except /. dupes!
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...they also found a way to block said files from being dragged into the Trash Can and deleted!
Ah, yes. That ancient principle pontificated by Dr. Ian Malcolm: Life will find a way.
I'm not downloading copyrighted music, I'm downloading junk to burden the p2p network with useless traffic. It just so happens I go a real file in the process!
What would?
I'm switching to hashish.
Linux - Because Mommy taught me to Share.
I'm trying to figure out why the guy on this website's banner is pointing (what looks like) a Gamecube controller at me. Is he going to ruin our P2P experience from a Nintendo? How 1337.
+ G to tha Izzo, A to tha Tizee, Talking Giz-oat, Ya'll Bettah Feel Me... +
They patented the following algorithm (and I know I'm going to get into so much trouble for this, but what the heck):Those intelligent bastards.
What will they do when people like the files with random noise better than any of the current music?
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
From Mario Brothers:
"Thank you Mario, but our princess is in another castle!"
That's how it's always going to be, they make a move to block, the the general geek public will have another move after that one.
Oh well, at least you made it past those damn spinning/flaming chains!
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Is this vague enough for you?
You can always ensure an identical hash and size by filling the file with identical data and then uploading the new file to the P2P network. Imagine how quick filesharing would stop if all of the major industry groups started doing this. P2P wouldn't stand a chance, no siree.
Yeah! easily! i'm working on a free program that turns a 1KB hash into a 4 GB DVD ISO, or anything else you want! it turns out we don't need to share files, just write the hash down on a piece of paper and you can transmit ANY size file with almost NO bandwidth! and if you hash the hash, it gets smaller and smaller until it's just a zero or a one!
I'll make millions!
Either way, I give it about a 0 chance they figured out how to quickly find collisions in a strong hash space. If they had, they'd be talking to the NSA, not the RIAA.
What makes you so sure that NSA pays better?
chmod 777
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Those intelligent bastards. Oh fuck! They've got me already!
they pay in life
"hand this over, or we'll make sure you never see the sun ever again"
Have you ever tried turning down a request from the NSA? Talk about an offer you cant refuse...
"You want to know how to help your kids? Leave them the fuck alone." -George Carlin
Don't you mean..
"Life... uhhhh.. will..uhh... find a way!"
"This, according to the company, can altogether stop the sharing of copywritten files by flooding p2p networks with corrupt/junk data"
Slashdot should rejoice at this! Since none of us download illegal material and nobody that any of us knows downloads illegal material, this technology might allow us to continue our legal, legitimate downloading of media and only target those handful of ruffians who engage in illegal filesharing. I'm all in favor of this!
"I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
Yeah, something like appending "_THIS_IS_FOR_REAL_NOT_A_FAKE" to each of the filenames should work just fine.
What is neat, or not so neat depending on your point of view, are music files which deteriorate after a while. I don't know how they are made, but I have listened to music that sounds pretty good, but after the 10th playing it starts skipping.
These are zoot files. Every once in a while, they skip a groove.
Dogma - "let's just say we'd like to avoid any empirical entanglements."
Y'all are missing the point.
These guys are not about taking out P2P.
They are part of a denial of service attack against the RIAA and MPAA, and we need more companies like them in order to make it effective.
You see, it works like this:
1) Make up a really snazzing sound anti-piracy product,
2) Back it with lots of sexy buzzwords and hand-waving
3) Sell, sorry LICENSE, it for lots of money to the (RI|MP)AA.
4) When it fails to perform, let in the next guy ready to do the same.
Repeat until (RI|MP)AA bank accounts have been depleted.
Except /. dupes!
Oh, yes I have just recently. Never heard from them aga
"hand this over, or we'll make sure you never see the sun ever again"
Oh noes! The NSA are going to destroy the sun!
What is neat, or not so neat depending on your point of view, are music files which deteriorate after a while. I don't know how they are made, but I have listened to music that sounds pretty good, but after the 10th playing it starts skipping.
The files are perfectly normal -- you're simply realizing that most of the music out there is trash which simply repeats the same verses over and over again so much that it sounds like it's skipping. Add to that the endless remixes which ruin perfectly good songs, and I can see how you'd mistake that with repetitive skipping. Rest assured that a better choice in music will alleviate this problem.
eMule definitely helps you better yourself.
Patience is a virtue, right?
It's been a long time.
Its a perfectly cromulent word...
You are in a maze of twisted little posts, all alike.
Doesn't the birthday paradox come into this? For bittorrent, store every single hash ever generated in an easily sortable pattern. If you get a collision, swap the two segments around.
Okay, you'll need a lot of segments in a lot of torrent files to poison any of them, but we're talking several orders of magnitude smaller. We might only need a few trillion universes to store the data.
Why the stereotype about NSA agents disappearing people? That kind of crap only happens in dictatorships. You can't do that in the USA because we are the land of the free! I know some NSA agents and they're great gu.f.a.,.adf,.ty....mrgATZ+++++
Nope, the solution to this is the Grokster case. Once you show that the creator of a product is liable for it's (mis)use, you can sue the pants off the company that made corrupted files that crippled your indie band's viability.
Hell, you could hire hackers to flood the network, prove damages, and then earn <dr evil> BILLIONS </dr evil>. Of course, this implies the Supreme Court in the US rules the way I am implying...