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Congress Declares War on File Leakers

An anonymous reader submits "Bush is expected to sign a law that essentially makes it a crime punishable by up to three years in jail for a user to put a single 'copy of a film, software program or music file in a shared folder and should have known the copyrighted work had not been commercially released.' Whichever side you're on in the copyright debate, you have to agree this legislation is draconian and excessive, to say the least."

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  1. Priorities in the Post 9/11 World by Flywheels+of+Fire · · Score: 0, Troll
    US$7 trillion isn't.

    Loading salad at a restaurant before paying is a crime.
    But Selling children for sex isn't.

    I feel so glad that Bush is the President of US in this Post 9/11 world.

    1. Re:Priorities in the Post 9/11 World by Flywheels+of+Fire · · Score: 0, Troll
      Sharing a file on the internet is crime.
      But Stealing US$7 trillion isn't.

      Loading salad at a restaurant before paying is a crime.
      But Selling children for sex isn't.

      I feel so glad that Bush is the President of US in this Post 9/11 world.

  2. So boycott what we steal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    So you're saying that not only should we stop stealing movies, but we should stop WATCHING the movies that we've stolen, too!

    I don't think that would bother them much.

  3. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'd rather just continue to download the free content

    How succinctly you make your opponents' case for them! It's not free content. That you have found a way to avoid paying for it only means that you're a cheap bastard that doesn't want to pay for entertainment, and are risking some legal action at some point, and feeling comfortable that the odds are in your favor. It doesn't mean the entertainers are asking to be your slaves. It just means you're causing them to be.

    Do you actually know anybody that creates and entertains a large audience for a living? Try to persuade them to do it for free, while giving them that finger you're so smug about. Be sure to do it to their faces so you can get the full effect.

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  4. This shit congress pulls should be more illegal... by billybob · · Score: 1, Troll

    The bill's supporters in Congress won passage of the prison terms by gluing them to an unrelated proposal to legalize technologies that delete offensive content from a film

    GOD DAMNIT! That is so sneaky and under the rug. Do you know how much horrible crap gets passed this way? Lots! This is just another example. (Note: too lazy to look up previous examples but I have heard about it numerous times). WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with the god damn congress? The only way they can get this underhanded bullshit passed is to hide it in a bill that seems to be totally unrelated. And we all know how many congressman fully read every bill that they vote on... *COUGH* NOT MANY *COUGH*...

    Fuck that... it pisses me off pretty much more than anything. How many of them would have voted for these prison terms, had they known thta was actually what they were voting for? This should seriously be illegal, to do something like that. Those mother fuckers :P

    As to how I feel about the actual bill is totally unrelated to this crap. I do think it's too harsh by a longshot, but I do understand the need to really crack down on pre-release leaks, because I think that those could actually affect the revenue of a movie to some degree. But they have to pull this horse crap to get it passed. Assholes.

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  5. Libertarians by DM9290 · · Score: 0, Troll

    "So, unless everybody wants to agree to my kooky libertarian ideal of abolishing copyright entirely (and we all know that such a thing will never happen), then we need a big hammer to enforce the law as it exists."

    Why do libertarians support private property law and oppose intellectual property law?

    Both are equally draconian.

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  6. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by cdrguru · · Score: 0, Troll
    Problem is that you're not stealing one $10 DVD - you are stealing millions of them. Or at least thousands.

    Let's be real and assume the cost of posting one DVD on the Internet is $100,000 in lost sales. That would be only 10,000 people downloading it that might have bought it - ignoring the 10,000,000 other people downloading it that wouldn't have.

    See, three years for stealing $100,000 is nothing.

  7. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by Metapsyborg · · Score: 0, Troll
    So you're saying that Libertarianism does not espouse a free market (laissez-faire) system? In which the government does not regulate the economy one iota (unless something is interfering with citizens property rights)?

    Do you honestly believe that corporations would pay any heed to "morality" given this type of situation? A corporation would not face consequences unless what they did directly threatend the property rights of a citizen.

    Perhaps you should take a closer look at what libertarianism truly means before you espouse its virtues. Sure, perhaps copyright wouldn't exist (though there is an argument as to whether what is copyrighted could be considered property, in which cases it would exist under libertarianism. Personal property is holy under such a system). But what do you think would replace copyright? Perhaps, as another poster said, a system where you sign a contract (upon each purchase) that states that, under penalty of a $100,000 fine you will not copy, reproduce, play in a public area, or otherwise diseminate the product. Hmm, in order to make this work, a bunch of corporations (say, record labels) could get together and form another big corporation/representative body. Then, they could establish a monopoly over the area they cover (remember-no government intervention in a free market), thereby forcing all new companies to use The Contract. Wow, this is all starting to sound very familiar.

    Extend scenarios like this to the extreme, and you see why a "pure" system, such as pure capitalism or pure communism, will never work.

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  8. Re:Free Thinkers Declare War on the RIAA by quarkscat · · Score: 0, Troll

    Please be careful about what you say. After 9-11,
    Dubya spake thus "If you are not with "us", then
    you are for the terrorists." With the USA Patriot
    Act (I) and all that has followed, this has also
    come to mean (1) the political opposition (aka
    the "anthrax letters"), the **AA (""pirates" are
    terrorists"), etc.

    What this country does not need is yet another law -
    what this country needs is a regime in power that
    respects the US Constitution and Bill of Rights,
    and uniformly enforces those laws already on the
    books. The current administration "talks the talk"
    about the "war on terror", but OBL is stil on the loose;
    talks about homeland security, but the borders and seaports
    are mostly unguarded; talks about the Social Security "crisis",
    but Medicare has been given a prescription "poison pill" and
    SS is more greatly threatened by Bush's "Realization" plan;
    beats the American people over the head with the drumbeat
    of threats of terror, but ships live anthrax and pandemic flu
    willy-nilly across the country; talks up a manned mission to Mars,
    but cuts NASA funding except for "militarized" robotics.

    If Dubya were to go on live TV and report tomorrow's
    weather as sunny and warm, I would pack my umbrella.

    But you are absolutely right. The way for a disgruntled
    public to express their displeasure with the current
    state of affairs IS to quit buying movies and
    music. Of course, the **AA will claim that their
    latest economic losses are due to even more piracy,
    and will generate even more draconian counter-measures.
    But hell's bells -- I say fsck them all!