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EU Trade Commissioner Enjoyed MS Hospitality

Brian Blessed writes "Today's edition of The Times contains a report that Peter Mandelson, the EU (European Union) Trade Commissioner, spent New Year's Eve as a guest of Paul Allen, the co-founder of Microsoft, in the Carribean on Mr Allen's luxury yacht. The story mentions the conflict of interest that this causes because of the protracted legal battle between Microsoft and the European Commission. Perhaps the Trade Commissioner has also been in a position to influence the progress of European Software Patent legislation?"

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  1. Perception vs reality. by winkydink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although Mr Allen is no longer directly involved in the management of Microsoft, he remains its second biggest shareholder. There is no suggestion that Mr Mandelson has broken the Commission's code of conduct.

    As a rule, rihc and powerful people tend to hang out with other rich and powerful people. I suspect this is more about giving the appearance of impropriety rather than any impropriety itself. Political opponents will try to make hay from this.

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    1. Re:Perception vs reality. by Zebadias · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the appearance of impropriety Mr Mandelson's record is not exactly stirling. He has been sacked from the goverment 2 times!

    2. Re:Perception vs reality. by purple_cobra · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you knew anything about Mandelson's political history you might think this incident deserves a little investigation. Any search for him at the BBC's news site should turn up some useful information.

    3. Re:Perception vs reality. by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, in fact my company arranged a round of golf between one of our more satisfied customers and a prospective customer with the hope they would discuss our product. Kind of reminded me of when zoos put two pandas in the same habitat to see if they mate.

      Businessman: As you can see, our product...
      Zookeeper: Look everybody! He's "presenting".

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    4. Re:Perception vs reality. by nganju · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Even if Paul Allen is not involved in the management of Microsoft, as a large shareholder, he still gains a lot if Mr. Mandelson decides to go easy on Microsoft.

      I don't see how Allen's lack of direct involvement in MS management makes this a non-conflict of interest. Allen still has every motive to make nice with Mandelson.

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  2. Well, why not? by FlyByPC · · Score: 4, Funny

    They buy everything else in sight -- how much can the EU possibly cost, anyway?

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    1. Re:Well, why not? by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well if you can wait till Russia join then you can probably pick the whole lot up for 27 Euros and a case of vodka.

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  3. Eruope, our corporations thank EU.... by isotope23 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ahhh the benefits of centralizing power. Now Microsoft only has to buy off a few flunkies in the EU as opposed to each former European country. Much better for business.

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    1. Re:Eruope, our corporations thank EU.... by globalar · · Score: 4, Informative

      The business community of Europe was the driving force behind the EU, the currency change, and the new demands for change in corporate merging laws between member states. This influence was secured way back when the EU was only a coal/steel trade organization.

      Make no mistake - economic interests have unified Europe, and political ones are only following suit.

    2. Re:Eruope, our corporations thank EU.... by isotope23 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sheeple are Sheeple regardless of which side of the Ocean you are on. Eventually IMO we will have one world government.

      I find it both sad and amazing that groups like the greens (which I believe have SOME valid points) rail about the corruption and power of corporations, yet their solution is to give more power to government. If you start with the premise that people are corruptable and power corrupts, how can you then endorse as a solution a greater concentration of power?

      The end result is those with power will make deals between themselves to keep the power they have or to gain more.

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  5. Re:Days of old... by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    If Peter Mandleson is behind you I dont think its to scratch your back.

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  6. Let me be the first to say by h.+simpson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This tastes like tinfoil to me. Paul Allen may be the second largest shareholder at Microsoft, but he's long since moved on from the Redmond giant.

    I don't think it's a great idea for people like this to be enjoying the luxuries of other rich influential people at all, but I doubt this is a Microsoft specific thing.

    This looks more improper than it truly is.

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say by rcs1000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      *BZZT* WRONG.

      I work in finance, and checked Bloomberg yesterday (in order to argue Allen was a significant shareholder). Shockingly, it appears as if Paul Allen has sold almost all of his shares. Very quietly.

      I tried to Google for a news story, but was unable to find one. Nevertheless, I would be very surprised if Allen had more than a small fraction of his wealth in Microsoft. (Certainly, compared to Vulture Ventures, Charter Communications, and that sports team he bought...)

      Cheers,

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  7. Not a great track record. by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 5, Informative

    Conservative leaders say that Mr Mandelson, who was twice forced to resign from the Cabinet over allegations of sleaze, should learn the lessons of the past, demanding that he should be "totally open" and branding him "naive".

    TWICE?! he was twice forced to resign over allegations of sleaze?! Wow, he either has vicious enemies or he's not so much on the up and up.

  8. A night to remember. by millennial · · Score: 5, Funny

    It all started at the party. Peter noticed Paul staring at him the whole time, and knew that he had to do something about it. He walked over to Paul and waited for him to say something.
    Mandleson and Allen gazed longingly into each other's eyes. They knew that the moment was right, and if everything was perfect, there would be magic tonight.
    "Whatever shall we do, Paul?" Peter said with a coy smile.
    Paul just grinned and patted his hand. "How about we go into the bedroom and ... talk about those patents?"
    Seriously. Homoeroticism abounds in this article. Two men spending New Year's Eve on the Caribbean in a private yacht? Whoa.
    Anyways, to continue the story...
    It was a night to remember. The two were up all night long, engaging in passionate discourse about patent restrictions on software in Europe. They say that private bargaining is like eating at a Chinese restaurant - it's not over until everyone gets their cookies. Paul got his patent cookies, and Mandelson got his legal jibblies off.
    They knew that they could tell no one, so they told their spokespeople that "there was no substantial conversation" and that they had merely exchanged pleasantries.

    I like my version better.

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  9. Godbye Ethics , Hello luxuary cruise by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Informative

    How in the hell he thought it , Either A: acceptable , or B: a good idea , is simply beyond me .
    Here is a man of immense power and persuasion taking what ammounts to a large bribe from microsoft and i have no doubts he was having a good drink enjoying ways to amicably let microsoft off on the fine , the opening up thing , oh and the Patent issue.

    Tonight i am going to write a letter to my MEP and urge that they raise a question as to whether he should be thrown out of this position imediatly , and at the very lest that he get some awnsers as to why he thought this behaviour beffiting of a politican.

    I do not want large lobby groups and private industry to have a strangle hold over the european commision , and if people like this are in office then i am begining to lose hope .

    This will not stop me kicking up a fuss , and if you agree with me i urge you to do the same .A letter is sometimes all it takes (oh and while you at it , make sure to bug you MEP again about the patents issue)

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  10. Good old Mandy by rleyton · · Score: 5, Informative
    Hoho, Mandelson never learns. So much for third time lucky. For the non-Brits that might be around, Peter Mandelson is something of a Blair loyalist, who is actually now in his third senior political incarnation.

    First up, he was in the cabinet culminating in Trade Secretary, but had to resign after it was discovered he had taken a loan of £373,000 (about $700,000) from another minister and not declared it in the public records.

    A few years later, long enough for Blair but not the rest of the population to forget, he was back "resurrected" as it were (apt, as he's also known as the Prince of Darkness) to be the Northern Ireland secretary. Guess what, not that long after it transpired he was involved with a dodgy claim by some rather wealthy businessmen to gain British passports.

    He got the Trade Commissioner job by merit Blair being blind to his foibles. So, now we discover that he's been taking benefits in kind, presumably rather on the sly, from a co-founder of Microsoft that just happens to have been landed with a hefty fine by the EU.

    Why am I not surprised?

    More here on the esteemed gentlemans career if you don't like bitter and twisted British political mumblings.

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    1. Re:Good old Mandy by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am convinced that Mandelson has got the "goods" on some aspect of Tony Blair's past... it's the only explanation for why he keeps getting called back despite his many indiscretions.

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  11. Word is... by dbleoslow · · Score: 4, Funny

    Linus invited this guy on the same day to hang out, discuss kernal optimization and play some D&D but was turned down in favor of Allen.

  12. The Octopus by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4, Informative
    Peter Mandleson, the EU (European Union) Trade Commissioner, spent New Year's Eve as a guest of Paul Allen, the co-founder of Microsoft, in the Carribean on Mr Allen's luxury yacht.
    Ah, yes, the Octopus ... What a hulking beast of a ship!
  13. I hope Paul Allen by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 4, Funny

    served some Guacamole.

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