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Borland Releases JBuilder to Eclipse

ricochet81 writes "The Register is reporting that Borland has released the base version of JBuilder as open source on Eclipse! Is this just the next company to use open source as part of a marketing tool, akin to Sun, IBM and Oracle's opensource IDE push? Is the future of enterprise IDE open?"

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  1. Delphi too, please by Aggrajag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just opensource Delphi as well. I just love Pascal as a programming language.

  2. Too earlt to tell by jvv62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems to me the article doesn't really say anything. Thus it is too early to have a decent discussion of what Borland is doing. On the other hand it is nice to see an OSS product making headway against a proprietary product. I liked JBuilder, and I think there are some features to Jbuilder that would be nice additions to Eclipse. Also the GUI seemed a little more solid in JBuilder than in Eclipse.

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    -John Van Voorhis
  3. Is the future of enterprise IDE open? by woah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not really, given that Microsoft would never do this with Visual Studio.

  4. Re:Which one is better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've used JBuilder since version 1.0 and i've recently started using Eclipse. The main difference between the two is the learning curve. It's really easy to create a web/j2ee/swing application in JBuilder, while it is a lot less easy to get going with Eclipse. Plain Eclipse is not really suited for real development: you need several other plugins (such as myeclipseide.com) for it to be useful.

    The main reason for Borland to shift the focus to Eclipse is that it takes a *lot* of work to develop/maintain the basic functionality of an IDE. Look at CVS integration for example. It comes "free" with Eclipse, and is way better than what JBuilder offers. Eclipse offers a free base platform on which Borland can create & market proprietary plugins for enterprise development (this is what IBM does and what Oracle is moving to). It'll be interesting to see how commercial plugins will compete with OSS ones.

  5. Incorrect News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Theregister is inccorect.

    Posted by Borland Developer Relation at borland.public.delphi.non-technical newsgroup
    or
    http://newsgroups.borland.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd =article&group=borland.public.delphi.non-technical &item=490600&utag=.

    Taking that information and stating that "JBuilder is now open source" is extremely irresponsible, in addition to being plain wrong.

  6. Re:What the hell is eclipse? by pringlis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Eclipse is, at the very base, a platform. All but the most basic functionality (including the Java Development Environment which most people associate with Eclipse) is supplied by plug-ins. Users can create plug-ins to associate with the Eclipse work bench or any other Eclipse plug-in.

    Basically to realease something "onto" Eclipse means that it is released as a plug-in for Eclipse. JBuilder provides functionality into the Eclipse platform which users can utilise.

  7. Re:Irritatingness by Textbook+Error · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The software was so completely irritating and impossible to use that I decided it was more than my university career was worth and dropped out of university with nothing at the end of first year

    Here's an alternative explanation. You're a bit of a dumbass, and decided to bail from a privilege that most of humanity never gets a chance to experience (higher education).

    Anyone who decides to give up that opportunity because of a flaky IDE is a dipshit. Sorry to have to be the one to break it to you.

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    Nae bother