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Room-Temperature, Small-Scale Fusion at UCLA

gnuman99 writes "A UCLA collaboration (Seth Putterman, Brian Naranjo and Jim Gimzewski) appear to have developed a fusion device powered by a pyroelectric crystal, a type of crystal used in cell phones to filter signals. When heated, such a crystal produces a large electric charge on its surface. The UCLA researchers placed a lithium tantalate (LiTaO3) pyroelectric crystal so that one side touches a copper disc. A tiny tungsten probe is then placed at the center of the copper disc. When the crystal is subsequently heated, a very large large electric field is produced at the end of the tugsten tip, ~25 billion volts per meter. This field gradient is so high that it strips the electrons from nearby deuterium atoms. The ionized deuterium atoms then accelerated by this field towards a solid target of erbium deuteride (ErD2). They collide with it at such high energies that some fuse with the target. A measurement of almost 900 neutrons per second was observed. This is 400 times the background! Although the amount of energy produced in this initial experiment was miniscule (~1E-8 jules), this technology could be used for things like microthrusters. There are pictures and movies on the UCLA's physics site." Reader richmlpdx adds a link to coverage at MSNBC.

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  1. Potential Uses by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Quoth the MSNBC article:
    ...the technique could have potential uses in medicine, spacecraft propulsion, the oil drilling industry and homeland security

    So what they're saying is that this technology just happens to have potential more or less exclusively in areas populated by companies/agencies that have a lot of money floating around for research grants, eh?

    What a stroke of luck!

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    1. Re:Potential Uses by mmkkbb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      when i was in school, every project final report had to mention possible military applications of the little robots or whatever that we had produced. remote-control car with programmable automatic navigation? reconnaissance, bomb-laying, etc.

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    2. Re:Potential Uses by mmkkbb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, no, it was the University of Rhode Island. Glad to know we weren't alone though. I always figured that the requirement was due to out close proximity to Raytheon, Electric Boat, the Naval War College, and the Newport Naval Undersea Warfare Center.

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    3. Re:Potential Uses by Jerf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      once everyone has a decent standard of living we either need to go to space or prepare for another population boom like there is in China / S. America.

      Evidence?

      This concern is out of date. Rich people have fewer kids; the evidence at this point is effectively incontrovertible, though one can yet debate the reasons.

      I'm not ready to panic about underpopulation yet, but if you insist on panicking, that's the way to go at the moment. Malthus was wrong; humans are the only known species to figure out reasons not to have kids.

  2. Solar Sails by mfh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A UCLA collaboration ... this technology could be used for things like microthrusters...etc

    I can see this being of use with solar sail vessels. But how close are we to fusion power stations?

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  3. Re:Not quite "Fusion" in the lay person's sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well then the general audience needs to pay attention and fucking learn something for a change.

    Is there fusing? Then it's fusion. People need to learn that fusion != consumer power generation, and not be shielded from the hurty pointy owie truth.

  4. Right now now excess power. Wait a minute.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So, build a sphere 100 meters in diameter. Plate the inside with micromachined crystals, copper, and tungsten widgets. Put the target in the center, complete with deturium. Heat up the outside of the sphere so all the crystals get warm. Now, you've got millions of these things firing fast deturium ions. Fusion takes place, things get hot, and the whole thing becomes self-sustaining. The problem is keeping the thing cool, so one attaches a power plant to it to get rid of the excess heat. So, why isn't this a good idea? Even if they're off by a factor of 10^8, that's only a hundred million, and just how tiny can the emitters be made?

  5. The First Particle Accelerator Was Smaller by ninjagin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Not to burst any bubbles, but the first cyclotron particle accelerator was smaller than a palm pilot, and was built in 1929.

    You can see it here:

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom-smasher2.htm

    Anyhoo, while I find the experiment and subsequent discovery kind of interesting, it isn't anything terribly exciting.

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  6. A new type of heatsink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Even if it didn't work on the megawatt scale, if it could work on the hundreds of watts scale, it could convert the heat from a CPU/GPU back into power.

  7. Re:How well does it scale up? by maxwells_deamon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There might be some very economical uses of this. A small lightweight source of neutrons that does not contain or produce any radiation before being activated might have some very nice (money producing) applications.

    Also they stated that the energy production in the Initial experiment was less than it took to generate the fusion. This does not rule out variations or even a scaled up version (I would guess that simple scaleing would not work)

  8. My god! Carl Sagan saw it all first!!! by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The ionized deuterium atoms then accelerated by this field towards a solid target of erbium deuteride (ErD2).
    In Contact (the book, not the movie), at one point, when they were assembling the Machine, they had some problem with ERBIUM DOWELS. Does erbium has some esoteric nuclear capabilities???
  9. Re:Pyroelectric? by OOGG_THE_CAVEMAN · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OOGG wish to clarify description of piezoelectric.

    KEY ASPECT NOT CONVERT ENERGY. RATHER, RELATION BETWEEN mechanical strain & electric polarization, OR IN CASE pyroelectric BETWEEN electric polarization & thermal gradient.

    EXPERIMENT USE pyroelectric CONVERT THERMAL GRADIENT into polarization = electric field.

    http://www.cohr.com/Applications/index.cfm?fuseact ion=Forms.page&PageID=118

    NOT NEED ENERGY CONVERSION FOR PIEZOELECTRIC APPLICATION. Cell phone filter (SAW=surface acoustic wave) USE COUPLING BETWEEN ELECTRIC FIELD & SOUND WAVE PROPAGATION FOR high-Q MICROWAVE/RF FILTER. NOT CONVERT ENERGY.

  10. Whoopie... by suitepotato · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Our nuclear weapons have had this feature for years. We've known for a long time how to use electric fields to create neutron emissions for a long time. It has applications in forcing rapid decay of isotopes which otherwise left to themselves would take forever. The kick-start from high energy neutrons is why they use it in nuclear weapons.

    Read U.S. Nuclear Weapons by Chuck Hansen, which is out of print unfortunately. Good coverage of the massive amount of information declassified since the dawn of the atomic age, at least where weapons are concerned.

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  11. Free Sources of Heat = Free Energy? by Dekortage · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "...this technique consumes orders of magnitude more energy than it produces." ...because it takes energy to produce heat, right?

    What about sources of heat that we don't need to fuel? Like reflected sunlight in a solar chamber, or molten rock closer to the center of the earth (or to volcanos, etc.)? Could we set up crystals like this to be heated via these methods, then capture the energy output somehow? What about adding these to other fueling methods that already produce great heat (like a nuclear plant) as augmentation?

    IANAS (I am not a scientist), so this may be a stupid question.

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  12. Re:Desktop fusion is not new... by kebes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is commonly available as a neutron source.

    Can you provide me references on that, please? I use neutron sources in my research, and I'm not aware of a Fusor setup being used at any real neutron beamlines around the world. They are all either particle accelerators that produce neutrons via spallation (such as the upcoming Spallation Neutron Source), or are radiological/nuclear reactors (such as NIST, HMI, etc.). Despite the simplicity of the Fusor, it is not actually used as a neutron source by anyone. As far as I know, the flux is much too low and the system not efficient.

  13. Room Temperature by Biodrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Doesn't heating the crystal by definition make the reaction not room Temperature?

  14. Re:Except you can already do that. by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Aye, one of my college professors ran NASA's fusion program in the 70s, and created the EFBT (Electric Field Bumpy Torus) fusion reactor. I don't know if you would call it a similar device to a tokamak - it used electric fields to stabilize the plasma instead of magnetic - but it also worked well.

    I think any new method that could possibly draw money away from the tokamak model is a good thing. I think it is one of the reasons that fusion research has been so stagnant. When the Princeton TFTR was being built, the contractor dropped one of the tokamak's huge flywheels. To pay for its replacement, most other fusion research programs were cut entirely, such as the one at NASA Langley.

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  15. Non sequitur... by shmlco · · Score: 2, Interesting
    World peace is only achievable through some form of population control - once everyone has a decent standard of living...

    Ah... missing the point here. Nations with a high standard of living tend to have flat, if not declining birth rates.

    Researchers have noted the phenomenon of falling birthrates in industrialized nations for many years, as children were no longer needed for manual labor on the farms, and and as woman acquire economic opportunities and access to birth control.

    So once everyone has a decent standard of living birth rates will drop on their own.

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  16. Re:Except you can already do that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    And don't forget about bubble fusion. Basicly, some researchers claimed they achieved tabletop fusion using ultrasound cavitation in deuterated acetone. Not everyone agrees that it was achieved yet, but the evidence looks pretty convincing to me.