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Microsoft Scales Down Palladium

bonch writes "Formerly known as Palladium, Next Generation Secure Computing Base (NGSCB) will not be fully available in Windows Longhorn after all. Instead, Longhorn will offer "the first part of NGSCB: Secure Startup," says Jim Allchin, Microsoft's group vice president for platforms. However, most hardware will not support this technology on release."

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  1. And to think I used to worry about this... by King_of_Prussia · · Score: 4, Funny
    I used to be afraid of what Palladium could do for the computing industry. Many tried to convince me that there was nothing to fear because there was no way in heck Microsoft could ever get anything done right and on time. It appears they were correct. Now it's being partially dropped from Longhorn, which is itself being pushed back to oblivion. Now I'm left wondering why I used to be worried.

    Heck, Microsoft cannot even secure its own "proprietary" gaming console, why did we ever fear that they'd lock down all of our computers?!

    Perhaps Microsorft have finally realised that such an invasive DRM system will cause a mass exodus of people from windows to Lenix. Microsoft seems determined to play into Lonis Torvaldez's hands with issues like these and I can't say that I'm ungrateful. Now if only WINE could play more games I'd switch straight away as the rest of my pirated material already works perfectly under linix.

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  2. Not about the GUI by skingers6894 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good to see that Microsoft have not been concentrating on the frivolous activity of making the GUI sexy (obviously) and have been concentrating instead on the more serious improvements "under the hood".

    You know, super secret stuff that they don't want to talk about in case Apple steal for the "Future Cat" operating system in 2020.

  3. Re:So... by golgotha007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    When it's ready to go public, they're going to drop the cryptic development name of "Longhorn" and go with "XP Service Pack 3" instead.

  4. In Other News by p0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsft reports today that Longhorn will not be shipped at all. Instead, it would be shipping a stripped down version of Windows XP with an all new startup screen and bundled with features from late Windows 3.11

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    1. Re:In Other News by skingers6894 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And in more other news...

      "Longhorn" will be renamed to "LongHaul" to reflect the wait users are in for. Another suggestion which was rejected by MS marketing was "ShortFeatures", said to be accurate but unwieldy in the marketplace.

  5. Re:So... by baadger · · Score: 5, Funny

    No no no. Usually you don't have to reinstall the OS to install a service pack, even if it does replace half the OS. ..this is clearly XP SE.

  6. Re:Soo..... by xtracto · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, I have to tell you I really can not wait for longhorn but, (as almost all my friends) I am sure I will not be queueing outside the shop, instead I will let my Mule do the queue ;o).

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  7. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    IIRC Paladium can't be "fully operational" without the hardware system behind (the keys in the motherboard...) Maybe they realized it couldn't work without the whole system.

    The other possibility is that they realized too many programs and computers would stop working at once and at the same time which would "kill" (or at least stop) all the Windows machines connected to the internet.

  8. Re:Soo..... by ssj_195 · · Score: 2, Funny
    How does the saying go: "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"?
    No, no, no - you got it all wrong! The saying goes like this:

    "Fool me once... [pause] ... shame on... [pause] Shame on you... [pause] If fooled, you can't get fooled again."

    :)

  9. Re:TP-M my ass. by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if Secure Startup will be able to distiguish a linux installation from a hard drive "compromise". I would be sad if there was such a bug. Imagine how enthusiastically MS would leap into action to get it fixed.

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  10. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    What, exactly, is Longhorn going to do?

    Suck. It will truly suck. Literally it will suck your system resources dry without mercy.

  11. Secure Startup by Timo_UK · · Score: 2, Funny

    The MS guarantee: Your Machine will be safe for the first 35 nanoseconds.

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  12. The features I want in Longhorn by KrisCowboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Regular crashes (couple of times every hour would do) accompanied by "You want to submit a bloody report?" messages.
    2. No support for *any* multimedia format except for WMA, WMV and ASF. Who cares for MP3 anyway.
    3. It would be really nice to get a "Keyboard not detected - press enter ton continue" message for real in Longhorn :-)

  13. Cripes, what's left to strip out of Longhorn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If they keep yanking features, they're going to be left with

    10 print "Welcome to Windows Longhorn!"
    20 goto 10

  14. Here's my suggestion... by gargleblast · · Score: 1, Funny

    Windows YP - Why Purchase?

  15. Re:So... by Bush+Pig · · Score: 2, Funny

    XP Millenium Edition? So ... Longhorn will be Windows 3000.

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  16. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    if any more features get cut, they're gonna have to change the name from Longhorn to VaPooRize

    ba dum dum

  17. Re:Truth in Advertising? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Funny

    What I did in humour, you were an asshole about, so wrap your drug-addled, pea-brained, useless as goatse mind around this:

    I've seen a retail box copy of Windows NT 3.01, you dumb shit.

    If you're coherent enough to comprehend it, look at http://www.ekta.ee/html/e741.htm, which was the third result in my supposed "garbage" Google search. Under the System Software section, it references....how about that? Windows NT 3.01.

    Next, check this tech reference from AMD (Google PDF-to-HTML version, since you're probably too useless to even know what to do with a .pdf file, scum-sucker):
    http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:mJgOcysWfHYJ: www.amd.com/epd/desiging/evalboards/14.elansc400/b ios/phoenix/manual/picobios.pdf+%22windows+nt+3.01 %22&hl=en&client=firefox-a

    Read page 117. The function it's describing supports Big Memory under Windows NT 3.01.

    Just because you've never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Some of us have been around a little longer than you stupid fuck script kiddie assholes, and before you go spewing shit out your mouth as well as your ass, you might want to stop and consider that we know what we're talking about.

    Go back to your porn collection, AC. (Yeah, I noticed you didn't even let anybody know who your stupid ass was.)

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