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John Dvorak Hypes Skype

Eh-Wire writes "John Dvorak gets all warm and fuzzy over Skype now that 30,000,000 users have registered for the free Internet telephony service. Dvorak extols the installation as, "smooth and elegant" and continues with, "Without any tweaking whatsoever it works immediately and works better than anything else I've used." Skype has appeared on the radar without pomp and fanfare and it doesn't look like it's going off screen any time soon."

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  1. Re:Backlash coming by PaxTech · · Score: 3, Insightful
    No kidding. I've never used Skype, but I've thought it sounded cool for a while..

    But now that Dvorak is touting it, it doesn't have a prayer. He's the kiss of death, has anything he's ever predicted come true?

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  2. John Dvorak by dteichman2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    John Dvorak is famous for his fictitious lookout on technology.

    One of his recent articles predicts the fall of the video game industry in the near-future, which has only grown, and continues to grow.

    Skype has been around for a long time, and has been fairly popular. It was hyped when it came out a while back. This is not news. It has always had a smooth UI.

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  3. But have they learnt their lesson? by matt+me · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Skype was written by the original authors of Kazaa, not Sharman Networks, the company who took it over and added all the malware.
    True. The questions is when those guys sold their program to an evil corp, did they know what they were doing? How for so many ppl, Kazaa would be their first ugly encounter with spyware?

    Would they do it again? Write a good app, build up a userbase, and then sell their users computers to be sacrifed to the Great Media Desktop?

    I don't trust Skype yet. There are two equally bad scenarios. It is sold off to the spyware giants, or a virus infects the windows clients and users phone a premium rate number.

    Read the Wikipedia article, and you'd be worried too.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype

  4. Re:Backlash coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hmmm Dvorak....wasn't he the guy that congratulated Al Gore on the fine job he did creating the internet? I agree it is doomed....

  5. Re:Backlash coming by NanoGator · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "But now that Dvorak is touting it, it doesn't have a prayer. He's the kiss of death, has anything he's ever predicted come true?"

    There's a difference between not being right and being a kiss of death.

    What's funny is you're basically doing the same thing you're complaining about him doing. You're saying that Skype doesn't have a prayer, but you're basing that on the improbable chance that it has something to do with Dvorak.

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  6. Re:How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What good is it that Skype is the best you've heard, when you haven't tried any of the other apps the parent mentioned?

  7. Re:How? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can connect to the regular telephone network. This is important for me, as I live in China and the international charges are outrageous.

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  8. Re:Once a spyware co always a spyware co... by Red+Alastor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Skype isn't standard and Skype isn't technically better than other similar apps. What Skype got however is that you just click next a few time to install it and there is no config to change. This is the easiest VoIP app available.

    While I would be able to learn another one, people I speak to could not.

    And it's cross-platform which is also very convenient since most people I talk to don't run Linux.

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  9. Legality of reverse-engineering protocol? by mr_majestyk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So what are the legal ramifications of reverse-engineering the protocol based on docs like these? If someone where to implement a reverse-engineered client, could the Skype folks come after developers with the DMCA?

  10. Re:Once a spyware co always a spyware co... by drix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    a couple of Estonians (4 to be exact)

    A couple of couples, to be exact.

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    I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
  11. Re:Backlash coming by PaxTech · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Heh.. I blame the guy who modded my original post "Interesting".. It's the same every time, I try to be funny and it gets modded Interesting, I try to be interesting and it gets modded Funny.

    And when I try to be insightful? Flamebait. :)

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  12. Skype != Evil by pixel-fodder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been Skyping for a while now, my wife uses it instead of those cheap international dialing numbers; it works (which is pretty incredible if you have any insight into how). I make free and cheap calls from the US to Europe and Australia; I call my home for free from a remote hotel room. The only issue I have is if Skype get to monopoloy status and then start to milk the market but I think the market is still way too immature for that. IMO - rather Skype lead the market than AT&T.

    http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/sharps

  13. Re:I've recommended Skype to my clients by Koguma · · Score: 1, Insightful
    No, it's not so clear. Being locked into SkypeOut has a price (versus 3rd-party termination resellers or running your own connection into POTS). Paying for your voicemail adds up, particularly when you have a substantial number of users.
    "Locked" into SkypeOut? How is $13 prepaid for 176 days "Locked" into SkypeOut? I feel more "Locked" into either a Vonage contract or a monthly POTS bill. If you have a substantial number of users, then you're going to have just a slightly less substantial number of POTS lines. VoiceMail for Skype is about $17 a YEAR, or free if you get SkypeIn, with a number, which comes out to $39 PER YEAR.

    Further, having your own Asterisk server will let you do lots of nifty things...
    Like learning server repair, hardware installation, troubleshooting, and SIP routing. Woot! Woot!

    ...

    advanced call queueing for the support line; automatically recording customer calls to support for "quality assurance" and billing purposes; allowing the CRM system to log and initiate calls; an IVR system for routing incoming calls when the receptionist is away; recognition of incoming fax calls with conversion of faxes to emails; and more) that you just can't get with Skype.

    Thank GOD that stuff isn't in Skype. If it were Dvorak would be right on the money. Skype isn't for call center managment.

    (Also, having a hardphone means you can reboot your computer, or let IT take it down to be reinstalled, without losing phone calls). Further, running your own connection into POTS means your phone system doesn't get temporarily hosed when you come under a DOS attack or someone gets a worm or fires up BitTorrent on the company network. All this downtime can be expensive, especially when you have folks on staff talking to customers or investors.

    Explain again how you won't have down time if someone does a DDOS attack on your Asterisk box? Oh wait, youre going to send your "significant" number of users with their handsets down to the POTS closet to make calls? Yeah buddy, have them line up outside.... better yet, there's payphones down the street.

    And the thing is -- if you have this system set up for phone interaction with your customers (which is where it's *really* important), you get free calls to your satellite offices (encrypted if you run a VPN, which you're going to do anyhow, right?) in the bargain free. Howdaya beat it?

    Eh.. you run Skype and save yourself the headache?

    Unless your running a call center, your argument is moot. Skype isn't meant for a call center. Small businesses eat it up. I've seen it, and I agree. I'm eating it up too.. got a big bowl if it right here. :-)