Citation not needed.
When an industry leader makes a change that affects nearly everyone, it's pretty much forced. RedHat forcing systemd on everyone, created a watershed effect of false adoption. Systemd is great for RedHat. Generates plenty of revenue in support contracts.
And oh yeah.. I love it how Stanaphone requires you to enter your home phone number for verification for registration. Kinda retarded for a VoIP application to be asking for that, dontcha think?
Kinda like you calling the phone company to ask for a line, and being asked to provide a phone number for verification. MMMmmm kay... they're gonna go far.
Stanaphone is also 2.7 cents a minute versus Skype's 2 cents for US and most international calls. (Yes, some are more expensive). VM's are emailed as attachments? Who wants that? Skype has it all in the interface, I don't want VM's clogging up my email. The Fax feature is cool, and I may use that in addition to Skype just for that alone.
One bad thing about Skype that no one seems to have metioned, is shite customer service. I've been having a problem with their v 1.3 client, as in it uses 90% of the CPU on my 2.8GH HT machine, and calls sound like a Waynes World burger order. I've requested they give me a link to the old 1.2 client, but so far.. nada... three days already...
Why is Skype better than Net2Phone, ICQ, AIM, MSN, etc?
Because it works! Most Voice-over-IP applications don't work from behind firewalls and NAT (Network Address Translation) devices. Nearly all broadband users are behind a NAT or firewall and so they cannot use VoIP applications. Skype is not a typical VoIP application - it's P2P Telephony! Because of its advanced design, Skype works behind nearly any firewall and NAT!
No, it's not so clear. Being locked into SkypeOut has a price (versus 3rd-party termination resellers or running your own connection into POTS). Paying for your voicemail adds up, particularly when you have a substantial number of users.
"Locked" into SkypeOut? How is $13 prepaid for 176 days "Locked" into SkypeOut? I feel more "Locked" into either a Vonage contract or a monthly POTS bill. If you have a substantial number of users, then you're going to have just a slightly less substantial number of POTS lines. VoiceMail for Skype is about $17 a YEAR, or free if you get SkypeIn, with a number, which comes out to $39 PER YEAR.
Further, having your own Asterisk server will let you do lots of nifty things...
Like learning server repair, hardware installation, troubleshooting, and SIP routing. Woot! Woot!
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advanced call queueing for the support line; automatically recording customer calls to support for "quality assurance" and billing purposes; allowing the CRM system to log and initiate calls; an IVR system for routing incoming calls when the receptionist is away; recognition of incoming fax calls with conversion of faxes to emails; and more) that you just can't get with Skype.
Thank GOD that stuff isn't in Skype. If it were Dvorak would be right on the money. Skype isn't for call center managment.
(Also, having a hardphone means you can reboot your computer, or let IT take it down to be reinstalled, without losing phone calls). Further, running your own connection into POTS means your phone system doesn't get temporarily hosed when you come under a DOS attack or someone gets a worm or fires up BitTorrent on the company network. All this downtime can be expensive, especially when you have folks on staff talking to customers or investors.
Explain again how you won't have down time if someone does a DDOS attack on your Asterisk box? Oh wait, youre going to send your "significant" number of users with their handsets down to the POTS closet to make calls? Yeah buddy, have them line up outside.... better yet, there's payphones down the street.
And the thing is -- if you have this system set up for phone interaction with your customers (which is where it's *really* important), you get free calls to your satellite offices (encrypted if you run a VPN, which you're going to do anyhow, right?) in the bargain free. Howdaya beat it?
Eh.. you run Skype and save yourself the headache?
Unless your running a call center, your argument is moot. Skype isn't meant for a call center. Small businesses eat it up. I've seen it, and I agree. I'm eating it up too.. got a big bowl if it right here.:-)
"Ma? Ok, save that file to/usr/local/bin, and so you see that?.so file? Yeah, save that to/lib. Now, run/sbin/ldconfig.. yes that's forward sla... Wait, you're running windows? Yeah, umm, put that dll in... ok you know what.. go to www.skype.com.."
Check out http://skype.pchome.com.tw/en/english.htm/">this phone a friend of mine was using it in the office. One of the most awsome and cheapest Skype handsets that reall work.
I've been using a Bluetooth dongle and headset with Skype, but with that I still need to dial and answer from the pc.
I can't see why Toyota had to come out with the Landcruiser when the Nissan Pathfinder is around. The Pathfinder is so much better and can do everything the Landcruiser can. In this case Toyota is doing more damage than good when it comes to cars.
woefully inadequate? How so? I know plenty of businesses running Skype. SKype have IM features, encryption, call conferencing, and voice mail (pay, but cheap).
From a cost perspective, running Skype, versus hiring a consultant to setup and an engineer to maintain Asterisk, well the choice is clear. "The Right Thing" for you, is not always the "Right Thing " for business. If I were running a business (and you obviously never have), I would use Skype as well.
Skype is excellent for satellite office communication, which is what SIP would be used for anyway. People have nothing but problems running vanilla SIP anyway.
Skype is really an amazing service. I just purchased a phone number from them in my area code. One year $39. $13 for pre-paid credits that last for 176 days, and free voicemail for a year.
Additionally, I have bluetooth dongle and headset that I use with Skype. Handsfree. The sounds quality is incredible. Better then land-line.
Consider the technologies they are using:
www.globalipsound.com
From their website, it seems you can lose up to 30% of your packets without losing sound quality. And I lose packets out my wazoo! Since I run a webcam while I talk. I've been calling Malaysia for 2 cents a minute. Local calls are about that much as well. But still comes out cheaper then Vonage.. there's no monthly fees!
Does that mean I can't call up Microsoft anymore with my commodore basic issues?
That's really terrible. I'm going to have to upgrade my commodore 64. I hear MS Basic is pretty good. Not sure what they mean by all this visual shmisual stuff.
I agree. And, I have a personal story to tell. I got one of the first slim Nokia phones, this what maybe oh 12 years ago?
Right away I spent 2 hours straight on that thing. The right side of my head grew pretty hot. Since then, up till NOW, I occasional headaches in that exact area, a throbbing pounding headache, the same one I first got after I used the phone.
So yeah, we'll know in a few years. My dad saved that first phone for the eventual lawsuit.
Subversion runs through Apache/2, so if you've got ssl setup in Apache, you have SSL on your repository. What I really love about Subversion is that it grabs the Apache authenticated user and uses that as the repository user.
Once you set it up, it's really neat, and you get fine grained control. Setting up the repository is quick, but setting up acl's to it is trickier. Still with WebSVN and other tools, it's really sweet.
Rejoice! Now you can CLEAN your glasses with the back of someone's heel.
Seriously though, this is similar to the "VP coating" I got on my lenses. Permenant marker comes right off, and dirt and oils rub off with any material..
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Citation not needed. When an industry leader makes a change that affects nearly everyone, it's pretty much forced. RedHat forcing systemd on everyone, created a watershed effect of false adoption. Systemd is great for RedHat. Generates plenty of revenue in support contracts.
Kinda like you calling the phone company to ask for a line, and being asked to provide a phone number for verification. MMMmmm kay... they're gonna go far.
One bad thing about Skype that no one seems to have metioned, is shite customer service. I've been having a problem with their v 1.3 client, as in it uses 90% of the CPU on my 2.8GH HT machine, and calls sound like a Waynes World burger order. I've requested they give me a link to the old 1.2 client, but so far.. nada... three days already...
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebas e&_j=questiondetails&_i=70&nav2=General
They already do this in Asia. It's called a sim card. And they sell simcard readers specifically for banking applications.
I bet they already have the job half done, or at least are on the same wavelength. Bet they could do it in a quarter of the amount too.
Thank GOD that stuff isn't in Skype. If it were Dvorak would be right on the money. Skype isn't for call center managment.
Explain again how you won't have down time if someone does a DDOS attack on your Asterisk box? Oh wait, youre going to send your "significant" number of users with their handsets down to the POTS closet to make calls? Yeah buddy, have them line up outside.... better yet, there's payphones down the street.
Eh.. you run Skype and save yourself the headache?
Unless your running a call center, your argument is moot. Skype isn't meant for a call center. Small businesses eat it up. I've seen it, and I agree. I'm eating it up too.. got a big bowl if it right here. :-)
"Ma? Ok, save that file to /usr/local/bin, and so you see that? .so file? Yeah, save that to /lib. Now, run /sbin/ldconfig.. yes that's forward sla... Wait, you're running windows? Yeah, umm, put that dll in... ok you know what.. go to www.skype.com.."
call echo123 in Skype and test it out.
I've been using a Bluetooth dongle and headset with Skype, but with that I still need to dial and answer from the pc.
Have you ACTUALLY used Yahoo's voice chat features? If you ever did, you wouldn't even be mentioning them. That "feature" effectively doesn't exist.
If only that worked for your fps.
I can't see why Toyota had to come out with the Landcruiser when the Nissan Pathfinder is around. The Pathfinder is so much better and can do everything the Landcruiser can. In this case Toyota is doing more damage than good when it comes to cars.
From a cost perspective, running Skype, versus hiring a consultant to setup and an engineer to maintain Asterisk, well the choice is clear. "The Right Thing" for you, is not always the "Right Thing " for business. If I were running a business (and you obviously never have), I would use Skype as well.
Skype is excellent for satellite office communication, which is what SIP would be used for anyway. People have nothing but problems running vanilla SIP anyway.
"Ma? Ok, lemme walk you through gcc... how much free time did you say you had?"
Skype is really an amazing service. I just purchased a phone number from them in my area code. One year $39. $13 for pre-paid credits that last for 176 days, and free voicemail for a year. Additionally, I have bluetooth dongle and headset that I use with Skype. Handsfree. The sounds quality is incredible. Better then land-line. Consider the technologies they are using: www.globalipsound.com From their website, it seems you can lose up to 30% of your packets without losing sound quality. And I lose packets out my wazoo! Since I run a webcam while I talk. I've been calling Malaysia for 2 cents a minute. Local calls are about that much as well. But still comes out cheaper then Vonage.. there's no monthly fees!
Now I'm the oldest pro. ;-0
Dude, 0day means the crack is out the day is released. Has nothing to do with it being small.
This is all back-in-the-day shit anyway when you'd jump on a bbs and head straight for the 0day section cuz everything else was old.
Does that mean I can't call up Microsoft anymore with my commodore basic issues?
That's really terrible. I'm going to have to upgrade my commodore 64. I hear MS Basic is pretty good. Not sure what they mean by all this visual shmisual stuff.
I agree. And, I have a personal story to tell. I got one of the first slim Nokia phones, this what maybe oh 12 years ago? Right away I spent 2 hours straight on that thing. The right side of my head grew pretty hot. Since then, up till NOW, I occasional headaches in that exact area, a throbbing pounding headache, the same one I first got after I used the phone. So yeah, we'll know in a few years. My dad saved that first phone for the eventual lawsuit.
If you want to run windows without extra cost you already have Wine and Bocs. Xen won't do it at least another 2 years.
Subversion runs through Apache/2, so if you've got ssl setup in Apache, you have SSL on your repository. What I really love about Subversion is that it grabs the Apache authenticated user and uses that as the repository user. Once you set it up, it's really neat, and you get fine grained control. Setting up the repository is quick, but setting up acl's to it is trickier. Still with WebSVN and other tools, it's really sweet.
Seriously though, this is similar to the "VP coating" I got on my lenses. Permenant marker comes right off, and dirt and oils rub off with any material..