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U.S. Wiretapping Surges 19%

linuxwrangler writes "Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged 19% in 2004 to 1,710. Court orders relating to terror-related investigations are not included in the wiretap statistics and those warrants reached a record 1,754 last year. Apparently judges have found that law enforcement is unbelievably perfect as they rubber-stamped approvals on every single request they received."

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  1. Plan of action by bryan986 · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. wire tap payphones 2. find out where my nigerian friend hid the money 3. ... 4. profit!

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  2. Does this include... by Valiss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..cell phones? Can they 'tap' a cell phone?

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    1. Re:Does this include... by to_kallon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can they 'tap' a cell phone?

      they don't have to. all they have to do is listen. hence, few criminals use cell phones for communications which they'd prefer remain confidential.
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      or so i've....heard......:-/

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    2. Re:Does this include... by MoralHazard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course not! Feel free to keep using your cell phone for drug deals and terrorist chatter, Valiss...

      Or should I say, Bin Laden! Thought you could hide behind a high Slashdot UID, did ya?

      Seriously, though, cellular "wire" taps are trivial. They can usually go through the carrier, or they can use receiving equipment if they're in the same cell to query the cell tower and intercept you there.

      Since the advent of digital cellular, though, you need more equipment and expertise needed to tap a cellphone. So the good news is that you don't really have to worry about anyone besides law enforcement listening in, unless your outside a digital service area and your phone fails over to analog.

      I've had moments in Brooklyn Heights, in NYC (which is notorious for bad cellular reception) where I'm on the phone and I can suddenly hear the conversation of a person a block away on my phone. When I look down, sure enough, it's on analog.

      So be careful out there, kids.

    3. Re:Does this include... by Monf · · Score: 5, Informative
      cell phones are tapped using the EIN number, it gets provisioned to the cop's equipment, kind of a man in the middle thing...

      not that i would know or anything, I think I saw the lone gunmen (the 3 geeks on X-Files) do it in an episode...

      they can customize the dial error messages you receive, they can route your cell-phone web browser through whatever proxy server they want, they can shut off your cell phone to piss you off, reprovision on the fly, etc... The hardest thing is to find your physical location, and thats using good old triangulation if you turn off the location awareness thingie (which isn't actually turned off, just restricts it to "Law Enforcement Personnel" or their close personal friends), and yes, they can create a hidden three-way call to a third party to listen in, or store the conversations digitally...

      Anyways, the point is that cell phones are tapped with computers, after it the signal hits the tower and gets on the land lines, not with radio receivers...

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    4. Re:Does this include... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Can you? I've done it ;) I worked on a particular government project which needed to be able to listen in to a wide range of frequencies, scanning for signals at a very high rate and then being able to tune into them. Consequently, we had to test it on all sorts of signals to make sure that it worked. Cell phone signals stick out like sore thumbs - nice, clean spikes. If I'm remembering correctly, at the time, we were only able to listen in to the analog signals, and you'd only get half of the conversation at a time (you're either listening to the phone or the tower, not both).

    5. Re:Does this include... by Jozer99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. The wireless signal goes to a nearby basestation, where it enters the regular phone network. Tapping is pretty much as easy as for a regular phone. If they want to do more sophisticated things, like data tapping, or tapping nextel style walkie talkie features, they have to get the assistance of the service provider, but it is still not hard. Where there is data, there is a way.

    6. Re:Does this include... by Husgaard · · Score: 4, Informative
      Since the advent of digital cellular, though, you need more equipment and expertise needed to tap a cellphone.
      Modern digital cellular systems like GSM are designed from the start to facilitate wiretapping. It is extremely simple for the network provider and the authorities to listen to your conversations.

      And even if you do not worry about your network provider and authorities listening, you should be aware that the GSM encryption was deliberately designed to be weak, and that it has been broken.

    7. Re:Does this include... by mikael · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course they can.

      Apart from your voice and data traffic, the 'mobile' part of your connection also keeps track of the signal strength from the nearest cell phone towers. This allows the operator to give an estimate of your location, the accuracy of which is dependent upon the number of towers within range.

      Since each cell phone tower is going support hundreds of phone calls simultaneously, this requires a high-speed digital data link to the nearest trunk exchange, where the call can be routed to other telephone networks, as well as the operators accounting system.

      Since the data is digital it can be multiplexed or diverted and split off in any direction. Particularly useful for voice-mail, three way calling and group conferences.

      Your mobile phone is always in communication with the nearest cell phone tower, even if it isn't actively handling a telephone call.

      There have been several cases where a suspect had been incriminated by the times and locations that a mobile phone has been used and switched off.

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    8. Re:Does this include... by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who cares? Pre-paid cell phones are literally disposable, one-use toys to the bad guys. You don't even need a fake ID, just cash, and not all that much at that. How can they tap your phone when you use a different phone for each call? The best they could do is tap all the pre-paid phones and listen to every conversation out there -- good luck with that! (wanna bet the NSA is big into voice recognition?)

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    9. Re:Does this include... by leonmergen · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... or they're using the cryptophone...

      If I understand it correctly, that telephone uses a sort of ssh-like connection for normal calls... sounds pretty cool :)

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  3. in another story by dotpavan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "We're still seeing a huge trend toward increased surveillance," said Edgar. In another story, a company called fake alibi is spreading its wings.

  4. Hmmmm by cc-rider-Texas · · Score: 5, Funny

    This must explain all that heavy breathing when I call those 1-900-XXX numbers.

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  5. For your safety... by StimpyPimp · · Score: 3, Funny

    You must understand... its just like a parent listening on their kid, to find out what trouble they are getting in... Only mom is a guy in a suit getting paid to listen to your phone sex.

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    1. Re:For your safety... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Only mom is a guy in a suit getting paid to listen to your phone sex.

      Maybe in your household but the rest of us are fairly normal.... erm, sorry wrong message board.

    2. Re:For your safety... by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >> they can't listen in on EVERYONE.

      You did get the bit where no application for tap was turned down? They may not be able to tap everyone, but they can tap anyone which is nearly as scary...

  6. Not Surprising by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "Apparently judges have found that law enforcement is unbelievably perfect as they rubber-stamped approvals on every single request they received"

    This makes a certain sense. Law enforcement, both police and judges, must feel they are on the same side and under siege by the forces of crime. After all, that's all they see and work with every day. So just as units of soldiers bond and stand up for each other, I imagine it must be tempting for judges and police to bond, or at least feel they are both working the same job from different angles. So they are probably predisposed to think the police know what they are doing when they ask for a wire-tap. Most of the time, they are probably right.

    But yeah, it sure does allow the slip-ups (and the occasional outright corruption) to get through mostly unchallenged. That's the downside, and a good reminder why a citizen should never give their governing structure any kind of power without realizing they will use that power early and often and repeatedly, and when someone becomes corrupt it will get used in a corrupted manner. And with very little in the way of real checks and balances in a practical sense.

    1. Re:Not Surprising by stinerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This makes a certain sense. Law enforcement, both police and judges, must feel they are on the same side and under siege by the forces of crime. After all, that's all they see and work with every day. So just as units of soldiers bond and stand up for each other, I imagine it must be tempting for judges and police to bond, or at least feel they are both working the same job from different angles. So they are probably predisposed to think the police know what they are doing when they ask for a wire-tap. Most of the time, they are probably right.

      That should never happen. The courts are theoretically independent. They are a government agency created by the legislature, but are not supposed to be on the side of anyone. They are an independent and neutral arbiter of the law (although you might not know that with the recent calls of "judical activism" when a judge doesn't judge the way someone wants them to)

      When the judiciary essentially pairs up with the executive branch, you've essentially gotten the judge and the executioner on the same side. It then follows that you are no longer assumed to be innocent. If the judges and the police are "on the same side" concepts like probable cause go out the window (see police state).

    2. Re:Not Surprising by AlexB892 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have a few friends in law enforcement, and they tell me the reason such a high percentage of warrants are approved is because it is seen as bad for one's career to request a warrant and be denied. If a detective keeps asking for warrants that aren't justified, supervisors see it as a sign of poor quality police work, so many officers are reluctant to ask a judge for a warrant unless they know they have a nearly air-tight case.

      Also, if a large percentage of warrants were denied by the courts, people would spin the statistics to say that police are trying to over-exert their powers by asking for illegal searches. The police don't want to create that image for themselves.

    3. Re:Not Surprising by 1000101 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Law enforcement, both police and judges, must feel they are on the same side and under siege by the forces of crime"

      They are on the same side of the law, but are completely different branches of government. In this case, the judicial branch is supposed to be a check on the executive branch, but it is hard to argue that they are doing their job with a 100% approval rate. There are very, very few private companies that do everything right, much less government agencies.

    4. Re:Not Surprising by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also the burden for warrants it's all that high. It's probable cause. Probable cause just means that there is enough to lead a person of reasonable caution to believe that something connected with a crime is in the location that the warrant allows a search of. It doesn't mean proof beyond a reasonable doubt or anything, just that a reasonable person would say "Ya, based on this, it's reasonable to assume that the items you are seeking are located there."

      So ya, not really supprising that most warrant applications are granted. The police don't want to apply unless they think there's a good chance of getting it, and the burden they need to meet isn't all that high. If someone credible testifies "Ya, I saw that gun at his house on the table." that's probably enough for probable cause.

    5. Re:Not Surprising by h8macs · · Score: 2

      Assumption of innocence died quite some time ago. You are guilty the moment you are written up. It is your word as a layman or potential criminal against an "Officer of the Law". You are merely capital (cattle) in the form of fines for the general fund. The law of the land (the constitution) is for the most part chopped and diced to fit whatever the current agenda may be.

      Damn judges... I hate when they get in the way of Executive or Legislative posturing.

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    6. Re:Not Surprising by demachina · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yea but Nazi's won the election that brought them to power, though not a clear majority. They consolidated their power largely thanks to winning control of the legislature and passing laws that gradually decimated or outright outlawed all opposition. They used the Reichstag fire to justify many of their greater excesses as the Republican's today use 9/11.

      "the nazis were socialist as are most Democrats"

      They were Fascists which isn't exactly the same as classic Socialists. The Nazi's created a giant interventionist government but it worked hand in hand with giant corporations and industrialists much like today's Republican party. Wealthy industrialists brought him to power, in fact bankrolled his rise to power, in particular the Thyssen family, and wealthy capitalists don't normally support real socialists. The Thyssen family is interesting because George. W's grandfather Prescott was their banker in America and his bank, Union Banking, was seized for trading with the enemy when war was declared much to the embarrassment of the Bush family. They had extensive financial dealings, along with their wealthy benefactors the Harrimans, with Nazi Germany.

      Today's neo con Republicans are also big fans of aggressive warfare, you know unilaterally invading countries who haven't attacked you under false pretenses, like Nazi Germany.

      I'm guessing your suggesting today's Republican's are free market conservatives and the antithesis of all this Nazi, Democrat Socialism, well I guess you haven't noticed but the new Republican party has been growing the government, its intrustion in and control of our lives, and its deficit spending at a furious pace, they are just growing it in a way that favors the wealthy and their corporate friends.

      I really wish we did have a conservative government that did what all the Republican's have said they were gonna do if they gained power, cut government spending, cut the size of govermment and limit its intrustion in our lives, but today's Republican party is more Fascist than it is conservative. Certainly its velvet gloved, compassionate fascism and nothing close to Germany in the 30's but give it time and one more 9/11 scale attack.

      "we still have elections"

      So did Germany, they did gain power through elections, laced as they were with Brown shirt intimidation, and they held elections for most of their rise to power, they just used their control of the government to pass laws that marginalized or outright outlawed of all their opposition.

      After a stolen presidential election in 2000 and a suspicious election in 2004, remember the exit polls that said one thing and the official results that said another I don't think just having elections proves anything. Unless they are fair and above reproach which America's haven't been since 2000. If they are vulnerable to manipulation they are meaningless.

      "free press"

      Heh, most people are getting their news from TV networks controlled by a tiny handful of giant corporations. Rupert Murdoch's global empire in particular, is anything but "free", "fair" or
      "balanced" and is dominating cable news, maybe you've heard of them, Fox News, they own like a third of the world's media, Viacom, Time/Warner, GE and Disney round out the list, none of which are exactly fans of controversy. Radio is controlled largely by Clearchannel and dominated by right wing extremists. Newspapers are also massively consolidated and simply don't have any traction with most people any more.

      So our media has been stampeded in to being anything but free. CBS has been thoroughly spanked for its "liberal bias", FOX's right wing bias is blatant, unchecked and its all angry white men watch. CNN used to balance FOX but since November when they got their new chief and the Republican's swept the elections I barely recognize it, they are pandering to the Christian right so much to try to salvage their ratings. There was a time after the Atlanta shooting they were plugging "The Purpose Driven Life" so

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    7. Re:Not Surprising by Eivind · · Score: 2, Insightful
      There's no problem with "large percentage". There *is* a problem when in sum (terrorist and others) over 3500 wiretapping-warrants are requested, and not even a SINGLE freaking one are denied.

      Sure, most officers take care to do good police work, and manage to do so most of the time. No problem.

      But there's no way in hell that ALL police officers asking for such warrants do a good job EVERY SINGLE TIME.

      This stinks to heaven.

    8. Re:Not Surprising by Tassach · · Score: 2, Funny
      The courts are theoretically independent
      In theory, theory and practice are the same.
      In practice, they aren't.
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  7. OMG!!!! 19%!!!! by dustinbarbour · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd hardly call that a 'surge." More like a abrupt rise. For me, a surge implies that it is an unstoppable force. 19% is not too awe-inspiring. Its like saying, oh my god.. Slashdot trolls increase by 19%!!

    1. Re:OMG!!!! 19%!!!! by Phillup · · Score: 2, Informative

      Did you take into account that it rose 48 percent during the previous 10 years?

      That is 4.8 percent a year if figured without compounding from year to year.

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  8. Re:Article text (in case of slashdotting by lantenon · · Score: 2, Funny

    "accounted for four of every four surveillance orders"
    "or about ten out of every nine"

    I was going to ignore it after the first one, but two in one article? C'mon AP, what sort of debacle is this?

  9. Re:Article text (in case of slashdotting by Necrobruiser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some 1,507 wiretaps -- or about ten out of every nine -- targeted portable devices, such as cell phones and pagers.

    That's about 111%. Nice work with the numbers there.

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  10. Nobody's Perfect by MoralHazard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apparently judges have found that law enforcement is unbelievably perfect as they rubber-stamped approvals on every single request they received.

    This is a little harsh, I think. First of all, the judge isn't saying "I believe that the wiretap target is guilty, therefore I authorize the wiretap." You don't have to be presumed guilty for a warrant to be necessary--there just has to be some indication that you may be guilty, the purpose of the warrant being to find out for sure.

    Second of all, the system admits that it isn't perfect because human judgement has flaws, and attempts to balance individual rights against the need for effective law enforcement. The US Supreme Court has allowed an exception to search and seizure rules called the "good faith" exception. Basically, the doctrine states that if a law enforcement officer asks for a warrant or executes a search based on a warrant, and it's later shown that the warrant was invalid (shouldn't have been issued, information was bad, whatever), the SEARCH isn't necessarily invalid. As long as the officers involved made an honest mistake, the courts say that they're allowed to use the evidence to prosecute.

    Why's this relevant? Because it shows that the point of the warrant-granting process is to check abusive behavior by law enforcement. It does its best to prevent honest, innocent people from being hassled, but it's not meant to try a case before the evidence is collected!

    It seems likely, then, that in a properly-functioning system, nearly all warrant requests will be granted. Since officers know that someone is watching and second-guessing their warrant requests, they're not likely to try to slip bullshit pretenses in. The officers know the rules in advance, and probably won't bother trying to get a warrant unless they're pretty sure it's going to be successful.

    It's the same reason why District Attorneys, nationwide, have a better-than 95% average conviction rate for cases brought to trial. If they think the case isn't going to stick, they won't try it.

  11. Skype myth-busting by js7a · · Score: 4, Informative
    Skype Privacy FAQ vs. Skype Privacy Policy:
    FAQ: Is Skype secure?
    Yes. When you call another Skype user your call is encrypted with strong encryption algorithms ensuring you privacy. In some cases your Skype communication may be routed via other users in the peer-to-peer network. Skype encryption protects you from potential eavesdropping from malicious users.

    Policy: Please be informed that, notwithstanding the abovementioned, in the event of a designated competent authority requesting Skype or Skype's local partner responsible towards such authority, to retain and provide Personal and/or Traffic Data, or to install wiretapping equipment in order to intercept communications, Skype and/or its local partner will provide all necessary assistance and information to fulfil this request.

    If you want real privacy, use SpeakFreely with your own choice of encryption library.

  12. Disturbing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What is disturbing is not the rise in wire-tapping. What is disturbing is (quoting the article): Every surveillance request made by authorities was granted.

    You would think with nearly 2000 requests, at least ONE might be found without merit, no?

    I don't usually wear a tinfoil hat, but that scares me.

    1. Re:Disturbing... by amliebsch · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd be interested to find out how many, if any, were successfully challenged in a subsequent trial.

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    2. Re:Disturbing... by tftp · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It doesn't have to be an evidence in a trial:

      Detective: You, boy, said last night to your friend that you stole the widget, and we have a tape to prove that! (plays the tape) You, boy, are in trouble - but if you take the following plea (introduces the plea) we will drop this charge...

      Prisoner: Oh, oh, I see your wisdom, Sir Officer, I confess... (confesses)

      The confession goes into the record and on trial, as well as the presentation of stolen widgets, recovered after the confession. The court never hears about the tape.

      There is, of course, the concept of the fruit of the poisoned tree, but it must be a fairly obvious path between the illegal action and the compromised evidence. For example, it must be shown that the detective would have never found the stolen widgets, with prisoner's fingerprints all over them, if he never had that tape. Even in this contrived example how can you prove that I won't dig under suspect's flower beds? What if I saw the soil as recently touched, for example? Even if I just imagined that?

  13. Wiretapping 101 and more by karvind · · Score: 5, Informative
    A good introduction to Wiretapping and Outside Plant Security

    Our old story on VoIP Wiretapping

    Interestingly in U.S., there are serious legal restrictions on the use of wiretaps by police agencies. The Supreme Court has consistently held that wiretaps qualify as searches under the Fourth Amendment.

    Article on related topic of Open Internet Wiretapping: Carnivore

    IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) policy on wiretapping which says: The IETF restates its strongly held belief, stated at greater length in [RFC 1984], that both commercial development of the Internet and adequate privacy for its users against illegal intrusion requires the wide availability of strong cryptographic technology.

    Another issue: Is Dialing Into a Conference Call an Interception?

  14. Patriot Act! by PsychicX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Real patriots have their phone lines wiretapped 24/7!

  15. A Little Bit of Paranoia Mixed In? by JenovaSynthesis · · Score: 3, Informative

    I find it hard to believe that these are just "rubberstamps" seeing aswithout any concrete evidence to justify the wiretap, any evidence they would gather from one or as a direct result from one would be not be admitted as evidence due to that whole 4th Amendment thingy.

    Plus the article gives a plausible technological reason the increase given that it takes more stuff these days to nail people. Can't exactly bust someone plotting over blackberry, etc through pre-blackberry techniues.

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    1. Re:A Little Bit of Paranoia Mixed In? by HD+Webdev · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I find it hard to believe that these are just "rubberstamps" seeing aswithout any concrete evidence to justify the wiretap, any evidence they would gather from one or as a direct result from one would be not be admitted as evidence due to that whole 4th Amendment thingy.

      That's true...if the courts haven't frozen a persons assets first. Then, the person can't pay an attorney to fight with the 4th amendment. Well, unless that person has A LOT of cash stashed somewhere.

      In Michigan, it's often the case that a person being accused of say 'manufacturing drugs' (1 pot plant will do even on a 40 acre property) will end up with all valuble assets seized before any trial. Then, when the person is convicted, those assets are split between law enforcement agencies.

      This really sucks because the defendant can't afford a decent attorney because his assets are all locked up. (Drugs may be bad, but not letting a person hire a competent attorney to prove they weren't the person who did it is worse).

      I've sat in for a few trials. And, it's been my extreme discomfort twice to have seen a judge say 'the 4th doesn't apply, your house wasn't large enough and the police were just protecting themselves and the defendant by searching for danger in the immediate vicinity'.

      If the 4th won't protect those in Michigan from judges like that, how will it help protect against unnesessary wiretaps?

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  16. be intresting by Amouth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What was our population increase in 2004?

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  17. enjoy it while it lasts by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Informative

    As soon as even low grade encryption becomes common the police are going to be screwed. The only reason normal phone lines arn't encrypted phone-to-phone is because it would be a hassle and would lower the quality (some sort of 56k modem in your phone, unless you can do some other trickery modulating with noise). As soon as you get to the realm of VoIP and phones have some processing power encryption starts to become something a system just 'might as well do'. Obviously man-in-the-middle would be a possibility but its trivial to just make a call and at the start read out a portion of your key and let the other person confirm it.

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    1. Re:enjoy it while it lasts by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The only reason normal phone lines arn't encrypted phone-to-phone is because it would be a hassle and would lower the quality (some sort of 56k modem in your phone, unless you can do some other trickery modulating with noise).

      Well, that, and there may not be a huge demand for it. Most people don't have much worth hiding. I mean, in principle I don't want the cops listening in on my phone conversations... but really who wants to listen to my mother tell me what the weather is like where she's at and complain about how lousy her week was?

  18. that's all? by davidesh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1754... that's all?

  19. Silly by sheldon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course wiretaps went up..

    It was an election year, after all. ;-)

  20. Re:Sample conversation with judge by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 2, Informative

    As fun as it is to reduce judges to idiots and cartoon villians, a whole bunch of them actually are competent. These things are granted because that's what's done. Judges don't assume cops are full of shit. But the system still works. It keeps the numbers down to 2,000 warrants that someone keeps track of instead of 200,000 searches whenever a cop feels like it that no one hears about.

  21. Damn right! by -Harlequin- · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like those paper-pushing nancy-boys down at City Hall have finally realised we're fighting the good fight down here. This is the street, man, and it ain't pretty. I don't need no panty-waisted girly-man bleating about "civil rights" and "due process", that's exactly the kind of BS that gets the bad off on "a technicality".

    "Technicality" my ass! I bagged that scumbag fair and square. If those assholes think I should have waited until I had evidence, they're living in fairyland. /not ragging on cops, just how the "renegade cop who doesn't do things by the book but gets the job done" cliche is so popular in Hollywood while so despised in real life. :-)

  22. Shows a change in attitude more than anything else by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What has limited wiretapping in the past has really been real or perceived resistance from the public (ie. either Joe citizen sqealing or the fear that he will squeal). What these numbers really show is that the "justice system" thinks that Joe citizen has been desensitised and will not squeal.

    Even though these numbers don't include terror investigations (which are no doubt being used quite liberally [that kid who shoplifted from the Seven Eleven **might** be doing it to feed terrorists]) the net effect is that people still feel threatened and feel that intrusions are part of the "War on drugs/terror/whatever".

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  23. Oh, come on by wackywendell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's 300 million people in the US, and there were less than 2000 wiretaps. That's one wiretap per 150,000 people...that seems mighty low to me, especially since I live in a drug-infested suburban town with a whopping 5,000 people which therefore had a 1 in 30 chance of ANY wiretapping at all in the past year, as I would say that my town is no more likely to have a wiretapping than the average, but I could certainly imagine one being needed. It seems to me like saying, "Holy shit! Wiretappings have risen from 10 to 100 in the US in the past year! that's a 900% increase!" It's too small for an increase of any size to make much difference.

    1. Re:Oh, come on by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 2, Insightful
      There's 300 million people in the US, and there were less than 2000 wiretaps.

      That's the official number, which is provided by the government. Now how many warrantless wiretaps did they perform?

      You're presuming that the government is on the level when they furnish us with these fanciful numbers. History shows that we have every reason to be skeptical of anything any government says. It is in their interest to decieve people.

      The credulity with which citizes treat these official statements is baffling. It's like battered-woman syndrome: the victim keeps believing the promises of her abuser to "never do it again," even after successive relapses of abuse. In the end, her low self-esteem, accompanied by her naive belief that she can redeem her lover of his cruelty, leads to her downfall, whether it comes quickly or slowly.

      But it's a more insidious relationship for those who live under the "soft" despotism of the American state, because most of it's victims don't even realize that they are being abused. They simply accept each new press release as true, even after they learn that the previous one they heard was false. Why such trust?

      "You know a tree by its fruit." Or something like that. There, I'm done venting.

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  24. Re:Summary Is a LIE!!! by Phillup · · Score: 4, Funny
    I just RTFA, and nowhere did it say how what percentage was approved vs. rejected.

    George Bush... is that you?

    Did you really read it?

    Huh?

    Even the first paragraph?
    The number of court-authorized wiretaps jumped 19 percent last year as investigators pursued drug and other cases against increasingly tech-savvy suspects. Every surveillance request made by authorities was granted.
    See the last sentence? That would be what we call a "word problem".

    It goes something like this:

    Every WMD in Iraq was destroyed, how many are left?
    a) none of them
    b) all of them
    c) I'm invading anyway
    d) all the above
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    --Phillip

    Can you say BIRTH TAX
  25. This will never happen... but.... by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This makes a certain sense. Law enforcement, both police and judges, must feel they are on the same side and under siege by the forces of crime. After all, that's all they see and work with every day. So just as units of soldiers bond and stand up for each other, I imagine it must be tempting for judges and police to bond, or at least feel they are both working the same job from different angles. So they are probably predisposed to think the police know what they are doing when they ask for a wire-tap. Most of the time, they are probably right.

    But yeah, it sure does allow the slip-ups (and the occasional outright corruption) to get through mostly unchallenged. That's the downside, and a good reminder why a citizen should never give their governing structure any kind of power without realizing they will use that power early and often and repeatedly, and when someone becomes corrupt it will get used in a corrupted manner. And with very little in the way of real checks and balances in a practical sense.

    Maybe we need a law that says judges who approve 80%+ of the requests for warrents they recieve in a year, must have those cases reviewed to see if they all panned out.

    If a judge approves a wire tap, and only 60% or less of those warrents lead to convictions (not just an arrest), then we have a problem. A Judge needs probable cause, and for me probable cause means the police already has strong evidence the person is going to break a crime.

    There is one website, I will not mention it here, it is used by police officers (if you google, you will find). They talk about everything. Some forums are public forums (anyone who registers can read and post), and other forums are hidden, you must be part of a group to post. I saw that hidden area once and I was shocked to read some of the "tricks" police use to get warrents, to harrass people, and to stick together. For example, if a police officer thinks a judge will be resistant to approving a warrent, they will hit up some neighborhood scum to say "yeah... he is about to sell drugs from his house this weekend". And one other dirty trick. Say a police officer has a real and valid reason to believe you have a stolen car in your garage. This is a true story by the way from that forum. The police officer asked for advice with getting a warrent, because he wanted it all legal. One of the other experianced police officers told him to include drugs on the warrent, because if he does not, he can only search the garage and not desks or cabinets. One of the requirements of a warrent is you can only search for what you're looking for. So if he gets a warrent for a stolen car, and finds drugs hidden in the silverware cabinet in the house, they can't arrest the person for the drugs (unless the person is an idiot and lets them search, or gets a crappy public defender).

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    Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

    1. Re:This will never happen... but.... by Hentai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If a judge approves a wire tap, and only 60% or less of those warrents lead to convictions (not just an arrest), then we have a problem. A Judge needs probable cause, and for me probable cause means the police already has strong evidence the person is going to break a crime.

      How do you keep that from encouraging collusion among judges, to increase conviction rates?

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      -Hentai [in vita non pacem est]
  26. The Horrors by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "...surged 19% in 2004 to 1,710."

    1710 taps , how many phone lines in the US?
    Telephones - main lines in use: 181,599,900

    Telephones - mobile cellular: 158.722 million
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ us.html#Comm

    340 million lines in the US.

    Should have been from the uncle-sam-isn't-listening to many dept.

    Here come the slide to Nazi Germany and whatnot posts.

    "Apparently judges have found that law enforcement is unbelievably perfect as they rubber-stamped approvals on every single request they received."
    Or maybe Judges demanded a crapload of extra evidence for the tiny number of wire taps approved.

  27. Re:Read the FAQ carefully by js7a · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't say "law enforcement," it says "designated competent authority." In practice, after subpoenas reach a certain volume, "designated competent authority" comes to mean "anyone who sends us a fax which looks half-assed reasonable and answers their phone number 'Sgt. Fibber, Metro Police,' whereupon we will email your recordings of all your Skype calls to their hotmail account."

  28. In case of slashdotting.. by lxw56 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're posting the text of a San Francisco Chronicle article, circulation +.5mil, so it isn't slashdotted? I am grateful to be able to RTFA without having to click the link, but I think they don't need to worry about slowing down from slashdotting.

  29. look at the baseline by corvi42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A common mistake everybody makes when looking at statistics like these is to forget about the baseline.

    As they said in the article, this increase is probably due to the increase in how much various kinds of wireless devices (cellphones, blackberries, etc. ) are being used by criminals. If you wanted to confirm this, you'd have to see whether there really was such an increase. Does the general population use these kinds of devices 19% more this year than last? Do criminals? Perhaps they have been increasingly using them over several years, and only now have the police started to modify their tactics. You can only build up an argument that there is in fact an increase in "big-brotherish" surveillance if the number of such wiretaps goes well beyond the "need" for them.

    More disturbing is the claim that Judges didn't reject a single request. This seems very wrong at first - especially when you have cop shows in the back of your mind where the crusading good-hearted but somewhat over-enthusiastic cop goes out searching for warrants from an old level-headed judge with flimsy evidence. It seems that there should be at least a few of these warrants which are rejected. Does are image of cops meet the reality? AlexB892 points out that it is seen as bad for a cop's career to have a wiretap requst rejected. Are cops really so diligent? Again - look to the baseline. What is the average number of rejected requests in any one year - these stats must be available somewhere. If you find that the average is only one or two rejections per year, then it seems reasonable that in any one year there might not be any at all. However, if it is much higher, you might question whether judges aren't being diligent enough in their scrutiny of the cops.

    Always take statistics with a grain of salt - they're only numbers, and can be interpreted in many ways. If they're presented in the right way, they can seem to be strong evidence for some growing trend - but you really need other figures which give you the "context" to see if this is realistic - or just somebodies rhetoric.

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    There are a thousand forms of subversion, but few can equal the convenience and immediacy of a cream pie -Noel Godin
  30. Land of the Free by Marcion · · Score: 2

    Is America still the land of the free? Apparently not...

  31. What's with baseless statement in post? by geekee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Apparently judges have found that law enforcement is unbelievably perfect as they rubber-stamped approvals on every single request they received."

    There is no mention in the article about percentages of wiretap requests approved, so why make a baseless statement like this. Instead maybe the reason for the increase is because, as the article says:

    "Drug dealers now are making use not just of traditional cell phones but a variety of devices, including Blackberries, pagers, and Nextels. So most likely these increased wiretap numbers simply reflect law enforcement's continuing efforts to keep pace with both the tactics and technology that is being used on the street," said Barr.

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    Vote for Pedro
  32. FUD by Moiche · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Wiretaps are definitely scary. Personally I'm such a boring individual that if the Feds listened to my conversations they would probably become narcoleptics, but hey -- on principle -- I'd prefer they didn't listen in.

    Thing is, I'm not scared by this article. There are 290 million people living in the United States, and a 19% increase amounts to around 273 extra wiretaps across the country. Not scary. In fact, I'm surprised that the number is 10 times larger, given that it appears to be a small fraction of the number of crimes investigated every year that should have been wiretapped.

    Furthermore, it may interest you to know that the legal standard for getting a wiretap is rather high (which is why there are so few of them).

    Before issuing a Title III wiretap warrant, a judge must find that: (1) "normal investigative procedures have been tried and have failed or reasonably appear to be unlikely to succeed if tried or to be too dangerous"; and (2) there is probable cause for believing "that an individual is committing, has committed, or is about to commit" one of a list of specifically enumerated crimes, that the wiretap will intercept particular communications about the enumerated offense, and that the communications facilities to be tapped are either being used in the commission of the crime or are commonly used by the suspect.
    See United States Telecom Assoc. v. FCC . So how, you ask, is it that there were no wiretap requests turned down if the standard is so high, and it's used relatively rarely?

    Simple. It's not like the police officers are going "Hey Judge, we need a wire-tap on this guy Frank 'cuz I think he's doing "crimes" -- and we need it yesterday!" What actually happens is the police officer goes to government lawyer. The government lawyer -- who does this all the time -- then tells the police officer 9 times out of 10 that they haven't met the standard. Even that 1 time out of 10, the government lawyer approaches the judge ex parte (i.e. not in a court proceeding) which allows the judge to indicate through subtle nods and grunts that the wiretap request is half-cooked, and to come back later. So you just don't get denied applications. By the way -- denied applications are the last thing the police want, because then -- dollars to donuts (hehe) when it comes time to the criminal trial, the wiretap evidence will be considered inadmissible even if the police eventually did get their wiretap.

    What Devlin Barrett, the reporter who wrote the article, should have mentioned, is how many wiretap requests were officially turned down over the last few years. But the reporter omitted this information, most likely because very few requests have been officially denied within the last decade. So the alarmist language used in the article makes it, IMHO, FUD.

    Regards,

    Moiche

  33. MODS: "pasted" text has been altered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    please mod as appropriate.

    stupid trolls. probably thinks he's a clever subversive now.

  34. Re:Article text (in case of slashdotting by MacWiz · · Score: 3, Funny

    This was informative? How about funny? Even funnier were those who questioned the math.

    RTFA not the parent.

  35. easily. by jms1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a friend who works for a large US company (no names, but it sounds a bit like "moo-sent") which makes the cell tower equipment used by several of the large american carriers, especially Verizon with their new high-speed data service. The last time I visited his office, he showed me the CALEA (Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994) box from their in-house system mock-up (used for training Verizon's techs.)

    In a normal market area, all of a carrier's towers are linked back to a single facility for the entire market, and that facility contains the links to the wireline carriers. Inside this data center, the sound channels of all of the calls on all of the towers are sorted out and routed to the appropriate wireline ports. The equipment which does this knows how to do a "wiretap"- as a call starts, if either the caller's number or the number being called are listed in a certain database, the call is set up with a copy of the audio being routed to what is essentially a WAV file. When the call is done, that WAV file is immediately emailed to whatever law enforcement person is interested.

    IN THEORY, the law enforcement types are supposed to show a court order before being able to add numbers to the database. IN REALITY, the carrier (at least Verizon) provides an SSL-secured web interface where law enforcement can just go and enter the number and an email address. The carrier does not perform any verification of whether or not there is a valid court order, they stay as close to hands-off as they can.