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Last Titan Launch from Florida

The Breeze writes "Driving along San Diego's freeways, I often passed a large Lockheed Martin facility that had big ATLAS and TITAN logos on them - it looked like it was still operating, even though I thought the Titan missile had been retired years ago. Well, according to CNN, the last Titan to be launched from Florida just took off with a classified military payload. I had no idea that they were still using 50-year old technology to launch stuff into space. If you are not adverse to MS Word documents, Patrick AFB, (the Air Force station at Cape Canaveral) has some press releases about the launch. Interested parties might want to click here for more info on Titan, along with links to the Titan Missile Museum where you can actually see a Titan in a silo -- and where Zeframe Cochrane launched his first warp ship from."

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  1. Even more... by PresidentKang · · Score: 5, Informative
    from Florida Today .

    But it's not the last Titan, just the last to launch from Cape Canaveral. According to the article on Florida Today: "This Titan is the last of a family of 168 to be launched from Cape Canaveral. One last flight is scheduled to take off from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California."

    Quite the powerhorse. Congrats to all who worked on it over the years for jobs well done.

  2. What a coincidence... by FrostedWheat · · Score: 4, Informative

    The last Skylark rocket is to be launched on Sunday. It's also a 50 year old rocket!

    Amazing to think there was a British space program once!

  3. Not Old at all! by mikejz84 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Booster that flew was a Titan 4B (and is not the last Titan-4B to fly, just the last at the Cape--One more will fly from Vandenberg) The Titan 4B first flew in 1997 and was an upgraded verson of the Titan 4 that first flew in the mid 80s. The Titan 4 was primarly used as a replacement for Mil Payloads after Challenger. The Titan 3 was a workhorse of launchers during the 70s (Including Voyager and Viking). The Titan 2 serverd as the bases of the following lines and was an ICBM and booster for Gemini. The Titan Rocket that flew is not old tech wise, its old in the same sense as the cars we drive today being based on improved designs of the past. Please google before you post something without knowing all the facts.

  4. Re:Replacement? by PresidentKang · · Score: 3, Informative

    Deltas (II and IV) and Atlas (V) are still much newer and going strong. I don't think there will be a shortage of rockets for military satellites in the near future.

  5. Re:Older but by simonbp · · Score: 1, Informative

    Because the Atlas V and Delta IV EELV's (Evolved Expendible Launch Vehicle) put the old Titans to shame; they are are chaeper per kilo to LEO and can be clustered together to form a Saturn I-class LV....

    Simon ;)

  6. I work on the Titan at the Cape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Beautiful launch on a beautiful launch and a fitting end to a legacy and a tradition in space.

    A memorable night there for those who attended and worked many years at the Cape.

    Parent is right AND wrong about 50-year old technology. The basic premise is the same in processing but the avionics and software are FAR from ancient and are in fact very recent. Titan is too expensive however now because of the previous use of hypergolics transitioning to newer and safer fuels as well as refinements in processing and launching that were implementing in the Atlas V.

    Long live the Titan.

  7. Might I recommend a book by hedley · · Score: 3, Informative

    Titan II: A History of a Cold War Missile Program
    by Jay W. Kelley

    I have this book. Its heavy on the detail of the missile silo development and the cold war time it was developed.

    There was no other missile in the US arsenal that could loft the 9MT warhead it carried. Still to this day it is the heavyweight leader.

    Hedley.

  8. Tried and true by Skippy_kangaroo · · Score: 2, Informative

    While the Titan's might be '50 year old technology' they are much better at launching payloads into space than the much newer shuttles. In fact, there has been a lot of criticism about America's unhealthy focus on reusable vehicles i.e. the shuttles. They are relatively wimpy in the payloads they can lift (they can barely get satellites to geosynchronous orbit and don't go there themselves). So, newer is not necessarily better.

    1. Re:Tried and true by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Informative

      Until the delta IV heavy, there was no American launch system that could match the Shuttle for payload. (30,000 lbs) Unless you count the discontinued Saturn line. In fact, I haven't heard of many Proton launches lately...

      Since the only RLV in existence is also the undisputed heavy lifter for something like two decades, I'd say the lack of demand for real heavy lifters is the reason they all seem to top out at 30klbs to LEO.

      Of course I say this grudgingly as I'd like to see either new RLV's to prove the concept really is cheaper or abandment of the idea for the forseable future.

      --
      Can you be Even More Awesome?!
  9. Re:and where Zeframe Cochrane launched ... by Servo5678 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Zefram Cochrane started out on Earth, building and launching his warp ship (the Phoenix) on April 5, 2063 at a missile complex in Bozeman, Montana. It was only later in life at the age of 87 that he moved to Alpha Centauri.

    The life of Zefram Cochrane

  10. Re:Way to up the ante... by Nerull · · Score: 4, Informative

    The current theory, supported by the orbit it was launched into, is that its the 5th in a fleet of radar imaging satillites, known as "LACROSSE".

  11. Re:Launched? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Informative

    "No. It's where Zeframe Cochrane WILL launch his first warp ship from. Get your facts straight."

    Well, if we're going to argue 'facts', the Titan referred to in First Contact has not been built yet. They very specifically referred to a model that has not been built yet. The main reason for this is that the Titan they used could not get into orbit. So they incremented the number a few times and made implications that there was a nuclear war. The idea there was that one day there would be a Titan developed that could, in theory, get a warp ship into orbit to test drive. (Basically, it was a pre-emptive move to shut up the nitpickers.)

    --
    "Derp de derp."