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Copy-and-Paste Reveals Classified U.S. Documents
cyclop writes "In March, U.S. troops in Iraq shot to death Nicola Calipari, the Italian intelligence agent that rescued the kidnapped journalist Giuliana Sgrena. U.S. commission on the incident produced a report which public version was censored for more than one third. Now Italian press is reporting that all confidential information in the report is available to the public, just by copying "hidden" text from the PDF and pasting it in a word processor (Italian). The uncensored report can now be directly downloaded (evil .DOC format, sorry)"
I think the army should win a prize or something!
"In March, U.S. troops in Iraq shot to death Italian intelligence agent Nicola Calipari, who was travelling in a car that refused to slow down for a coalition checkpoint."
Hardly.
f rontpage/4503061.stm/ its obvious that the adminstration is willing to lie and twist anything inorder to get its own way.
After this : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/
I'd rather trust what the Italians were saying than what the White House was saying. They're proven liars afterall.
The communist reporter was not rescued she was bought with money that will go to buy arms that will be used to kill 80% Iraqi civilians and 20% foreign soldiers. Nothing heroic happened, a payoff was made, and a phone call was not. Put in the same situation as the soldiers I would have done the same thing. It always amazes me when people are surprised nasty things happen in war.
it's a shame it was wasted on this document. they'll be sure not to make the same mistake again. pity it wasn't saved for a document that shows something more important (how elections were rigged or government funded assasinations etc)
Hundreds, if not thousands of Iraqis have been killed in similar circumstances since the US liberation, and people are making so much fuss about one white guy ? Give me a break !
Move along, nothing to see, just another non-white being sacrificed in the name of American security.
What's the smallest book in the world, the book of Iraqi/Italian war heros. Be macho, kill the non-christians. Democracy is worth dying for, as long as the Heathens (including Catholics from the proper American perspectve) are the ones dying.
The number of times the car was shot will necessarily be less than or equal to the number of times the car was shot at. One can use your post to see that you're nothing but a daft troll.
>> Tried to murder her??? After the incident took place the same US soldiers applied some first aid to her
Thats just the problem the World has with with you this days. You are shooting first and thinking later.
BTW:
Just try some information from the people in Iraq itself: http://occupationwatch.org/
As a veteran of US Military you should know that 40% of the troops are gay and the other 60% are negroes. which one are you?
Get a brain.
Sure, let's go bowling.
They shoot into the engine block and attempt to disable the vehicle so that they can gain INTEL from whoever is in the car. They dont want them dead, you fool, they want to know who is funding the nutcases who set off car bombs around innocent people.
You have a right to be against the war, but you have no information supporting that the U.S. wanted to kill that woman, but hell, that never stopped an idiot from spouting off before, has it?
Fuck off and die.
Glad to know how US citizens feel about this incident. Now I can continue to hate USA without feeling any guilt. And I really don't feel any sympathy for you about 9/11 or any other "terrorist" attacks on you anymore. And I don't think a lot of people outside USA do. Yeah, the killing of that agent was not your fault, it was completely theirs.
and that you are a clueless fuck. You fire as many times
as she said and that car is going to be torn to pieces. You
think our troops are like most in that part of the world that
shoot in the sky?
The Italians fucked this up for themself and are refusing to
own up to it. God forbid the leftists admit *they* did some
thing wrong and Berlusconi stand up to them and take the political heat.
Eh. And USA has never made any claims that are provably false. So USA is more "trustable" than that stinking communist Sgrena.
Just because they weren't wearing western styled clothing designed for the military doesn't mean they weren't wearing uniforms. That's just more neocon FUD. Those are prisoners of war, it's just more conveneient for the neocons to call them something else, that's all. And 'detained"? How about captured or kidnapped instead, let's use real words not spin doctor words. Read some of the docs at the neocon Project for a New American Century to see what was planned for Iraq long before 9-11. They fully intended to invade, just wanted a "pearl harbor" like excuse to do it. funny how that 'event" happend real conveninet like, ain't it? Funny how all the "planes off course" years previous all had fighters on their ass within 10 minutes, but on 9-11 "the system failed". Uh huh, sure it did. It got ordered to "fail" is what really happened.
Too many coincidences to take this story at government face value. This is a coup, just accept reality.
Because of articles such as this one. I presume that you are aware of the U.S. track record at killing journalists intentionally?
"I love my job, but I hate talking to people like you" (Freddie Mercury)
Heh, I'm Russian and I've just read it, gotta put it on p2p too. Hope some brave Iraqi fighters get it and use the tactical information contained in it to blow up some more american fashist occupiers. heck I check icasualties.org every day for the daily dose of crispy americans. I also find stories in local american press of the ones left w/o legs and arms particularly touching.
US-UK-Israel: The real Axis of Evil
Maybe because it's a US policy to shoot first, let God sort them out later?
Signals of "friendly vehicles" are commonly known. And commonly known to be ignored by the US troops.
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Then, IMO, you are a murderer AND a jackass.
Given the context, I'm okay with you thinking I'm a jackass.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Wow, that was fast. Got nothing else to do, eh?
I'm okay with being called a fool as well. (It takes one to recognize one, as the saying goes. I see you like Foxnews; that seems consistent with that view.)
BTW, you lost your virtual money in that bet you took with yourself.
I do notice that (like Foxnews), you're trying to divert me from the image of the little children crying as US troops try to clean up after killing their parents at a checkpoint. I wonder how many other such murders are taking place and are unreported simply because no Italian journalist or Chris Hondros aren't there to publicize this.
Think about your view - what would you have done? If the answer is "Follow orders" and/or "shoot" then guess what you should then call yourself?
Don't bother replying - I'm not interested in your views as you appear to be exactly the jackass and fool that you see in others.
The point is not Giuliana Sgrena. She is not a weapons expert and I don't expect her tale to be accurate to the last technical detail, as the whole episode lasted only a few seconds and during these she probably thought of otherwise than writing the next story.
The point is an hostage being retrieved through a paid ransom.
- Insurgents kidnap Italian
- Italian government pays ransom
- Hostage is freed, resistance gets money
- Insurgents kidnap another Italian since the Italian government pays, go back to 1
Of course the US don't want more money going to the resistance, and do have a case in discouraging ransom payment; one of the ways of dealing with this might be "you can pay, but we are going to kill them before they board the plane anyway". It sounds far-fetched, but given the respect for non-US human life that the US administrations usually have (1 2 3 4 5), it is not impossible that sectors in the military would act thusly.It would otherwise be interesting to actually see those satellite pictures, not just a link by an American to an American news site quoting an American TV station about an American satellite.
And no, she did not like the US, nor did the experience much to improve her views. Same can be said for the majority of Italians.
Victims of 9/11: <3000. Traffic in the US: >30,000/y
Yes you (servicemen) are murderers; just as much murderers as the Wehrmacht, the Red Army invading Czechoslovakia, etc.
That you chose to participate in those criminal activities merely makes you a hired thug. But that's what you are. You have no moral high ground.
Quite simply, the operational details contained within this report can get someone killed.
As long as it will be Americans, I'll be fine with it and mirror the document.
A monkey is doing the real work for me.
Did it reveal the ransom they paid? Of course not.
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The one thing the Italians have ignored is "how much ransom did they pay" to get their people released?
Every lira they paid is being used to kill Coalition (US and British, mostly but with a little luck some Italians too until they pull them out) and, of course, Iraqis. Lots of Iraqis.
That's why they didn't mention too much about their presence on the airport road that night.
So they want to prosecute Americans for this? Perhaps we should be prosecuting the Itialian government for supporting terrorists?
BTW, if anyone wants to see how difficult a soliders job is in the Iraq (and sometime how difficult they can make it for themselves) watch the Frontline show (pbs.org) "A Soldiers Story").
"Is that cat lost or is that a car bomb?"
"Why did he speed up after you fired the warning shots?"
It's a difficult job
These crimes haunt us today. Iraq is a catastrophe, and we're even losing Italy, now that we're wantonly shooting their intelligence people returning from rescue missions. Don't forget Poland - which will be out of Iraq by the end of the year. Or even the UK - they just dropped their troops by 40%, which leaves them at 5500, a level significant only to their own people waiting for them to leave, too. It's High Noon, and our sherrif couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
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So bring on the censorship.
Spoken like a true tyrant.
Let's be serious here. The Italian people have a right to know what went on. The US military murdered one of Italy's spies and wounded an innocent Italian civilian.
The US military has changed their story several times. The journalist who was the target directly contradicts the military's story. Hell, the Pentagon wouldn't even let the Italians inspect the vehicle that the military shot up! Gimme a break, is this the way you treat allies?
Who's more believable: the journalist who has no record of lying, or the Bush administration and the Pentagon?
Let's get back to reality here...
No, geekmeister has it right. We're fucking idiots for being there in the first place. No WMDs, Iraq never posed a threat, it was totally about Halliburton contracts and Bush and neocon pal's insane ideas about shoving the sweet taste of democracy down people's throats who don't want any part of it. The fact of the matter is that the insurgents will never win this war, but they can and will guarantee that we never will either. The poor bastards who are out there being jerked around and slowly killed by military dipshits using VOIP to fail to communicate day in and day out will continue to die until the day we admit that it was an incredibly irresponsible invasion, tuck our tails, and get the fuck out, leaving Iraq in ruins. We can either do it today, or we can do it ten years and a trillion dollars from now. We lose big no matter what. Better to cut our losses and get it out of the way.
I suppose you're going to blather on inanely about how we can win or why it's worth it or some such idiocy.