KingDaveRa writes "The BBC is reporting that IBM is losing 13,000 jobs. This comes after disappointing financial results. Most jobs will be going in europe."
Re:Dont forget about Poland
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KiloByte
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just as many drunks but much cheaper Having drunks drink cheaper booze is not a good thing.
lots of beautifull clean land Didn't you mention Cracow in your post?
The only benefit Poland has is being pretty cheap, but nowhere as cheap as India is. On the other hand, we are world leaders where it comes to bureaucracy, stupid laws and corruption.
Like every major company that moved its manufacturing into Poland has either already left or is contemplating leaving. Low labor costs are not everything.
I'm speaking mostly about automobile industry here -- but when it comes to assembling PCs, we got a case when a company had to export their wares to the Czech republic, "buy" them from itself and import them back -- all to avoid a certain law idiocy.
-- The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Re:Governments Should Tax Their Profits More
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pandrijeczko
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What about all the money that domestic customers save as a result of outsourcing?
You can only save money if you earn money. If you don't have a job, as a result of outsourcing, you can't buy anything anyway.
It's exactly your kind of thinking that got us into this global-warming mess.
Erm, want to explain the logic behind this statement? I'd love to hear how you got "2+2" to equal "13,000,000"...
Correct me if I'm wrong here but Third World countries contribute to global warming through issues like high-pollution power stations, older technology high-exhaust emission vehicles, etc.
Put more jobs in those countries, you need more power & more older cars...
don't bother to consider that your near-term gains are screwing the future.
You've contradicted yourself, sorry, you lose the argument.
Outsourcing is for short-term gain - low wages --> better standard of living --> higher wage demands --> cheaper to oursource elsewhere.
Let me get this straight. You view wealth as a problem that needs solving. For whatever reason, you consider wealth (financial success) immoral, even when it is acquired through 100% voluntary means.
Let me butt into this: I do not consider wealth "immoral" (as money is simply an amoral tool) but I see a vast disparity in wealth between some tiny elite and majority of society leading to centralized power and control, followed by debasing serfdom of majortity to that tiny minority, and thus to be anti-social and for lack of a better word "evil". (I will skip for the momemnt discussion of crippling economical effects of such distribution of wealth). From your other posts I see that you see use of "force" against few anti-social people for the benefit of billions as the utimate failing of society. I would be curious for your explanation as to how to solve the problem of oligopoly being the inherent equilibrium of real-life capitalist system (as oposed to pure theory under ideal conditions) while not using any sort of centralized political power such as government. I am all ears.
just as many drunks but much cheaper
Having drunks drink cheaper booze is not a good thing.
lots of beautifull clean land
Didn't you mention Cracow in your post?
The only benefit Poland has is being pretty cheap, but nowhere as cheap as India is. On the other hand, we are world leaders where it comes to bureaucracy, stupid laws and corruption.
Like every major company that moved its manufacturing into Poland has either already left or is contemplating leaving. Low labor costs are not everything.
I'm speaking mostly about automobile industry here -- but when it comes to assembling PCs, we got a case when a company had to export their wares to the Czech republic, "buy" them from itself and import them back -- all to avoid a certain law idiocy.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
You can only save money if you earn money. If you don't have a job, as a result of outsourcing, you can't buy anything anyway.
It's exactly your kind of thinking that got us into this global-warming mess.
Erm, want to explain the logic behind this statement? I'd love to hear how you got "2+2" to equal "13,000,000"...
Correct me if I'm wrong here but Third World countries contribute to global warming through issues like high-pollution power stations, older technology high-exhaust emission vehicles, etc. Put more jobs in those countries, you need more power & more older cars...
don't bother to consider that your near-term gains are screwing the future.
You've contradicted yourself, sorry, you lose the argument.
Outsourcing is for short-term gain - low wages --> better standard of living --> higher wage demands --> cheaper to oursource elsewhere.
Next time "engage brain" first, then type...
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
Let me butt into this: I do not consider wealth "immoral" (as money is simply an amoral tool) but I see a vast disparity in wealth between some tiny elite and majority of society leading to centralized power and control, followed by debasing serfdom of majortity to that tiny minority, and thus to be anti-social and for lack of a better word "evil". (I will skip for the momemnt discussion of crippling economical effects of such distribution of wealth). From your other posts I see that you see use of "force" against few anti-social people for the benefit of billions as the utimate failing of society. I would be curious for your explanation as to how to solve the problem of oligopoly being the inherent equilibrium of real-life capitalist system (as oposed to pure theory under ideal conditions) while not using any sort of centralized political power such as government. I am all ears.