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IBM to Lose 13,000 Jobs

KingDaveRa writes "The BBC is reporting that IBM is losing 13,000 jobs. This comes after disappointing financial results. Most jobs will be going in europe."

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  1. I'll tell you what's hell by Carnil · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Trying to follow any of your malformed links is!!!

  2. Re:Dont forget about Poland by lachlan76 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Well their culture involves arranged marriages for example, I don't know much about Indian culture but if things like that are the norm they are not socially trained to make decisions from the get-go.

  3. Re:Dont forget about Poland by billysara · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Good grief.

  4. Re:Dont forget about Poland by AdamPiotrZochowski · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    \ \ just as many drunks but much cheaper
    \ Having drunks drink cheaper booze is not a good thing.

    true true, I am always saddened when I see people drink 'denaturat', or the drunks
    who piss on everything, even historical buildings, just because taking extra steps
    to a restroom is too much.
    denaturat : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol

    what I was alluding to is that there are drunks everywhere, Germany, Ireland,
    etc, so Poland aint too bad. Sure some might drink vodka in glasses instead
    of shots, but those are freaks.


    \ \ lots of beautifull clean land
    \ Didn't you mention Cracow in your post?

    just throw a stone any way and it will land on a clean land... Sure Metropolities
    are not too clean, but such is the case with any city, and definitelly Cracow is
    not the worst. But we have beautifull high mountains Tatry, the forested mountains
    in Bieszczady, the 1000 lakes in Mazury. Heck, Mazury is referred to as 'the green
    lungs' for a reason.

    Poland has everything in moderation. Its not raining non stop like it is in England,
    its hot enough on summer days, but not so hot as in mediterranean countries where you
    need sciestas. Winters are not as bad as scandinavic winters. And Poland is not
    overpopulated like Netherlands. Poland does not have problems with influx of
    immigrants, problems that are well appearent in France or Germany and Holland. Poland
    is also a very good link to other countries of slavik descent such asRussia / Ukraine
    Lithuania / Belarus / Czech / Slovakia / Bulgaria / Croatia / Yugoslavia ... etc)


    \ The only benefit Poland has is being pretty cheap, but nowhere as cheap as India

    Poland is cheap, but not that cheap, true. But also poland is in the central Europe,
    you only get 1hr time difference with England, much easier to coordinate work. Poland
    also has been much closer to europe, there is less chance for breaking local
    Savoir-faire customs. The less faux-pas/gaffes in a meeting the better.


    \ On the other hand, we are world leaders where it comes to bureaucracy, stupid laws
    \ and corruption.

    true, Poland does not have a transparent goverment, and there are many red tapes one
    needs to clear, but so is the case when dealing with Chinese (not sure about Indian,
    but possibly too). Have a chinese/indian company break a contract with you, see
    how well you fare out trying to hold them in their country to the contract they
    signed with you.

    I agree, saying that Poland is not as corrupt as 'point finger anywhere eastward' is
    not necessarilly a plus.



    \ Like every major company that moved its manufacturing into Poland has either
    \ already left or is contemplating leaving. Low labor costs are not everything.

    actually, its all about low costs, but not just labour. Factor in the costs of
    corruption, costs of educating, costs of opening up factories, costs of operation.
    But its all about costs, sure labour costs offset alot, but not everything.Corruption
    of the goverment adds to the costs (could also be considered a perk, but its a
    dangerous road to partake)

    Look at Ukraine, they got lower labour costs than many countries but due to their
    corruption and instability they are not flooded with work offers... yet. This could
    be changing soon.


    \ I'm speaking mostly about automobile industry here -- but when it comes to
    \ assembling PCs, we got a case when a company had to export their wares to the
    \ Czech republic, "buy" them from itself and import them back -- all to avoid
    \ a certain law idiocy.

    there are many wierd law idiocies that one has to avoid, but such is the case with
    many countries.

    In Canada its cheaper to buy a broken car and have a mechanic fix it for you, than to
    have the same mechanic buy

  5. Re:Losing your job is hard by spectasaurus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Man, I lost my car keys once. It sucked. I'd hate to lose 13,000 car keys, though. Hope they find them soon before they have to pick someone up at the airport or something.

  6. Adverts in the RSS? by andymullins · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What's with the banner add in the RSS feed for this story? Is this going to become the norm?

  7. Re: My uncle by Malc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is it possible to get a pint for £2 anymore? I used to take £20 for a night out 10 years ago - that would have been 10 pints, which is a good limit because I've been known to drink 12 (and that starts getting *really* messy for somebody who weighed less than 9 st.) Pints of Guinness today cost well over £3 (in SE at least), and sometimes I get carried away and drink more expensive drinks, and of course there has to be something to eat too. And also, how many people who can drink that much only drink occasionally? That's when it starts adding up. I spent £80 on booze (I kept it cheap by only drinking beer too) over three nights a fortnight ago... the bank balance doesn't like that behaviour on a regular basis. BTW, that was in Toronto, not UK.