CherryOS is dead! Long live PearPC!

trygvebw writes "Earlier today, an entry was posted on Arben Kryzeiu's blog, stating that he was stopping development of CherryOS. CherryOS was an application sold by MXS, inc, which was clearly an illegal rip-off of the open-source PowerPC emulator PearPC. CherryOS is dead, long live PearPC!"

Comments

great!

[croddy]

now, what about those video codec products that are full of GPL'ed code?

And what about VX30?

[wan-fu]

The company still hasn't answered any questions about VX30 (possible GPL violation?). Does anyone have news/updates about this?

Text of Arben's blog.

[Anonymous Coward]

The last bite on CherryOS

I decided that C-OS is not worth the hassle, not now or in the future. C-OS went to work without brushing its teeth or taking a shower, it was not ready.

Other current open source projects are progressing to the desired product; Qemu will soon support OS X and lead the way. Or maybe I am wrong and someone else will make a fast lead.

I love my Mac and would never switch back, sure I use my PC for work but that is just a bad habit that I am trying to get rid of. A friend of mine asked me why I am still creating software for Windows and that question is not getting out of my head. Oh yeah, I know - everyone out there who has their certain opinion about me will have their great comment hour right now. Its ok I expect that anyway.

Now what?

Don't know and won't know for a while.

I will go kite boarding or go fishing, get some air before I go back to my beloved square box. Tiger is great, amazing features and I love the hidden details. Don't know how Longhorn is going to compete with this OS now, would love to know what BG has planned for the future of Windows other than the marketing details.

What will change everything is WIFIMAX, wow it will be the first step into a security nightmare and communication dreamland.

Re:Text of Arben's blog.

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh yeah, I know - everyone out there who has their certain opinion about me will have their great comment hour right now. Its ok I expect that anyway

So you should, scum. Code that I wrote for PearPC was found in CherryOS, and you went along with the bullshit that it was only similar because it "ran the apple code".

You're a liar and a thief.

Re:Text of Arben's blog.

[Anonymous Coward]

You're a liar and a thief.

He's a liar, a copyright infringer and a plagiarist. He's not a thief.

I think he's scum too, but that doesn't change the nature of his actions.

Re:Text of Arben's blog.

[rogabean]

Bah another slashdot semantic war over the word "stolen".

v. stole, (stl) stolen, (stln) stealing, steals:

1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.

Did he or did he not take property? The code belonged to the developers. He had taken code that belonged to someone and else.

It's theft of intellectual property. Yes it's plagiarism as well. I consider plagiarism just another form of theft.

To steal doesn't imply that the victim no longer has something. It states that something was taken from them.

Bah! it's Saturday and I'm arguing semantics on Slashdot.

Re:Text of Arben's blog.

[civilizedINTENSITY]

Gotta admit calling someone "scum", followed by "liar and copyright infringer" doesn't have the same emotional impact. It is even almost funny.

To the Anon Coward whose code was inappropriately copied, you have my sympathy.

Re:Text of Arben's blog.

[Mr. Slippery]

It's theft of intellectual property.

There is no such thing as "intellectual property" except as a bad metaphor. Ideas are not the same as real estate or physical objects.

There are legal entities of copyright, trademark, and patents. Violating these may be illegal, but is not theft, it is infringement of the copyright/patent/trademark.

Re:Text of Arben's blog.

[nacturation]

Look it up in Black's Law Dictionary sometime. Theft is generally defined as taking someone else's property with the intent to deprive the owner of its use. No deprivation? Then it's not theft.

Re:Shame

[Anonymous Coward]

it only takes a clever delevoper to make it boot Mac OS X. Which would be awesome.

It would be a much smarter developer who could get Mac OS 9 booting on an emulator. Why bother emulating what's essentially Just Another Unix, when you can run something truly unique and elegant that you can't get anywhere else.

Wasn't ready???

[waffleman]

Amazing reasoning for quitting the 'project'. "I decided that C-OS is not worth the hassle, not now or in the future. C-OS went to work without brushing its teeth or taking a shower, it was not ready."

Apparently, he means that he couldn't dress up an open source project enough before violating the copyright. Strange justification for stopping. Or maybe his potential customer realized that they were dealing with a crook and the 'worth' evaporated.

Re:Shame

[rogabean]

On what do you base that PearPC is dead?
PearPC happens to be very much alive and alot of work is still actively being done on it...
see: PearPC.net

Re:...what?

[rincebrain]

Site no longer exists, I submitted a story a few weeks ago about them removing the notice of a May release, but it never got posted.

Why isn't the legal case moving forward anyways?

[Lead Butthead]

A license violation is a license violation. Stopping now does not undo the past violations. They did profit from license violation, and that violation must be paid, one way or another.

Re:Why isn't the legal case moving forward anyways

[FidelCatsro]

Sometimes its better to just let things go . Sure a case may have ment another Test of the GPL in court , but it would also mean the folks behind PearPC would have less time to hack away at the code.

With the demise of CherryOS , most likely from the presure of the aligations, We can rest easy for now . It may not be an ideal victory , but a victory non the less

It atleast shows that the community and the GPL are begining to hold alot more sway .Far better this I say than making a few more lawyers rich off of IP litegation.

Re:Shame

[rogabean]

Try a release from my site:

PearPC Downloads

I happen to use PearPC on a daily basis and would say that it has achieved somewhere around 10x slower then the host. It is getting faster. True the "official releases" haven't been updated in a while, but I promise you ALOT of work is still going on.

Re:Shame

[rogabean]

PearPC Downloads (oops hit plain old text on last comment out of habit messing up the link)

Re:Why isn't the legal case moving forward anyways

[iggymanz]

no, if this thieving and plagerising two-legged sack of crap gets away with his actions, then other companies may feel the potential benefits of stealing open source code and claiming it as their own outway the consequences of discovery. Look at SCO, they not only used GPL code, but then try to extort license fees for and claim ownership of GPL code. This evil has to be nipped in the bud NOW, or the freedoms that open source developers give to the users, and the freedoms we users have will be taken away.

What about the code they ripped off?

[mikesown]

CherryOS has ripped off a lot of code from pearpc(licenced under the GPL). Shouldn't they be sued regaurdless of weather they plan to distribute it furter? Isn't this just a message saying 'Yeah you can attempt to rip off out code, you can just stop development and not release the source code if you happen to get caught'

Re:What about the code they ripped off?

[Anonymous Coward]

Ummm... who is gonna sue CherryOS? The developement team on PearPC? I'm sure that it's not worth the cost of a lawsuit. CherryOS is done, finished, kaput; we can all get back to life now that this little episode is over.

Re:uhh....

[dn15]

Huh? CherryOS / PearPC let you run Mac OS X on a PC. WINE lets you run Windows apps in Linux. One emulates, the other does not. They are two totally different things.

Arben Ain't A Kid

[cmholm]

Whatever he is, Arben Kryeziu ain't a kid. He got himself from Albania, to Germany, and then to Hawaii in search of his fortunes. He met his wife while vacationing in Hawaii. He's an adult who hooked up with a Maui businessman, Jim Kartes, to crank out software and IT services.

Arben seemed to be doing just fine until he pulled this cheap stunt. I'll bet a lunch at L&L Drive Inn that Jim told Arben to pull the plug on this Cherry thing, once he realized that the bad PR threatened to shit-stain his business reputation. I wouldn't doubt that Kartes lacked the technical saavy to know that his partner was utitilizing the work of others without attribution... until it was spelled out to him by the "lynch-mob".