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Meet Microsoft's Linux Lab Head Bill Hilf

morcego writes "Yahoo News has a very interesting interview with Bill Hilf, Microsoft's director of Microsoft's platform technology strategy group, who in turn works for Martin Taylor, Microsoft's general manager of platform strategy and Linux point man. From the interview: '"I am a non-Microsoft guy working at Microsoft," Hilf said.'"

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  1. Useless article! by dbretton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just RTFA, and there is no content at all.

    Let me summarize for you:
    Bill Hilf works for Microsoft, reporting on the progress and direction of the open source projects and the OSS community in general.

    There, now you can go do something more important than read this article.

  2. Re:So let me get the right... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer - alternatively, KNOW YOUR ENEMY. Or, how about "do unto others, but first cover your butt."

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  3. Re:So let me get the right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nice logic there.

    So next time I buy a mosquito repellant it means I don't get sleep over the horros of insect invasions.

  4. Re:Good to know by dougmc · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's nice to know that at least somebody there has some understanding of open source/Linux/alternatives.
    Microsoft is a large company. I'll bet there's hundreds of employees there that have a good understanding of open source alternatives. There's probably even some employees who regularly contribute to some open source projects, unless Microsoft policy actively prohibits it.

    The marketing stuff that you see from them is written by a small subset of the company, and it's generally written with one goal in mind -- to benefit Microsoft. They aren't worried about giving the alternatives a fair treatment, unless they think that that will benefit them somehow.

    Overall, Microsoft may be the `enemy', but the individual employees certainly aren't. They're just average working people like those working at any other software company.

  5. Microsoft. Where do you want to go today? by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So this Hilf Bill (any relationship to Gates Bill?) is paid by Microsoft to troll Slashdot and other F/OSS sites, mailing lists, and blogs? So that's where all the pirst fost, goatse, "moderate" opinions, and pro-Microsoft posts come from!! The greatest mystery of the universe is finally solved!

    Seriously, though, I think it's funny that Microsoft needs to have a position like this. Maybe they'd be better off letting all employees spend 20% of their paid time reading about Linux and the most popular F/OSS programs out there. They might learn a thing or two (probably two) about how to code software that actually works. And then Microsoft wouldn't be throwing their money away.

  6. Re:How different is Linux from Windows? by dmaxwell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I correct that Linux is "similar enough" to Windows?

    These days it isn't terribly important that platforms resemble each other that much. Applications just need some common APIs and little elbow grease to smooth over the things APIs don't cover. Just about every major FOSS app can be run on Windows. To the extent that developers are responsible for interoperability, the FOSS world has done its part.

    Another way to take this is that MS must not be very good at making clean code if they're incapable of writing to our platform yet we can write to theirs. Since they like to fling FUD so much, that might be a good bit to throw their way.

  7. Re:Good to know by dougmc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Bullshit! - Microsoft on more than 1 occasion had to hire people through other companies because they couldnt find true Linux experts that would work for them.
    Ok, fine -- perhaps Microsoft couldn't get Linus or Alan Cox to work for them, at any price. Maybe, maybe not.

    But most of the `true Linux experts' out there still have mouths to feed and like their sports cars and such, and if Microsoft were to offer them enough money, at least some of them would work for Microsoft. I would if they offered enough money, though I'm somewhere between L++ and L+++ in my geek code block so I probably don't count.

    And I can easily see how a `Linux expert' might even justify working for Microsoft -- he might see it as a way to infiltrate Microsoft from within, perhaps influence their corporate culture, help make them a better company. (Yes, I think this is unlikely, but he might justify it like that anyways.) And while I'm certainly a OSS advocate, I still think that any improvements in Microsoft software will benefit the computing community as a whole, and if a Linux expert can help improve their software, I think this would be a good thing for him to do.

    The individuals who work at Microsoft are either ignorant, desperate or believe there should be a fascist monopoly in the operating system market.
    There may be a few people there like that, but I certainly do believe that most people there are just normal, every day people who do their job so they will get paid. And if they can do something to improve the world, that's a nice bonus, but mostly they're just there to get paid, just like the rest of the world.

    And I don't think that Microsoft is so much more evil than any other software company, it's just that they are in a position where their actions have a lot more effect on things, so people watch them more closely.

    The good average guys are thrown out for mentioning Microsoft uses Apple Mac.
    Are you referring to this incident? If so, that's a long stretch from what you said. Yes, Microsoft's reaction was extreme, but it's not quite what you suggested. He certainly did more than mention that Microsoft uses Macs.
  8. Re:So why no interoperability by justins · · Score: 2, Insightful
    They have a load of *nix servers and PCs, yet frequently new M$ products fail to work with 3rd party clients/interfaces/servers. It sounds like he Microsoft's gimp for building systems that their engineers can write software to NOT work on.

    Microsoft's interoperability problems tend to stem not from outright sabotage of protocols, but from just not giving a shit.
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  9. microsoft's new attitude by harlemjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    they couldn't beat or break open source
    so now they have to work with it

    makes sense really -- for years they had no serious competition -- they still don't on the desktop

    but the mac's recent resurgence on the desktop and the rise of linux and BSD on servers has to be dealt with -- how could microsoft not have an OSS and OS X lab?

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  10. Re:TFA sucks. big-time. by richlv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    actually, he probably intentionally avoided another, better question : when will microsoft _really_ start doing something to increase interoperability instead of trying to make it as hard as possible for everybody else ?

    stop using some half-assed closed crap (active-x), add support for opendocument, document native msoffic formats, smb etc - but that would make you compete on real benefits, not lock-in. oh no, we can't afford that.

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  11. Re:So why no interoperability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    While I agree that exclusivity is greedily sought by companies, there's nothing contradictory between interoperability and exclusive features. One can sell an application providing both, since it's the latter that boost the sales (and sometimes the former).

    It's when you don't have anything exlusive anymore that interoperability becomes a hurdle in keeping good selling figures. And thus companies look for customer lock-in to avoid having to innovate all the time, which is harder to do.