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Maureen O'Gara No Longer Welcome at LinuxWorld

flood6 writes "On the heels of yesterday's article about unrest at LinuxWorld, editor James Turner is reporting in his blog that Sys-Con Media has decided to purge Maureen O'Gara from the print and online publications." From the post: "Sys-con Media listened to what I and my fellow editors, their advertisers and the readership was saying, and made the correct decision. Maureen O'Gara's bylined material will no longer appear anywhere in the Sys-con universe of sites or publications. We have received this commitment in writing from Fuat Kircaali, the publisher." PJ at Groklaw also has commentary on this development.

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  1. But we already knew who PJ is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Didn't another SCO henchmen - Jeff Merkey - already tell us the personal details of PJ? This MOG person's account doesn't seem to fit the picture Merkey painted.

    1. Re:But we already knew who PJ is by ThatDamnMurphyGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Dude, uncool. Maureen is a bitch. There's no question there. But you can't put her life in danger just because she put someone else's life in danger. That's for the justice system to do, not a vigilante with a grudge.

      Bullshit. That's public information is it not? I'll assume it is. I get a phonebook with tons of peoples names and addresses. Is the phone company putting them all at risk?

  2. Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead by gowen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not surprising, really, since MO'G's last article on Pamela Jones so clearly overstepped the bounds of decent, public interest journalist.

    Incidentally, was I the only person who felt that insinuating that PJ's religion was wacko was particularly ironic, given that Maureen's paymasters at SCO were based in Utah, home of the not-exactly-christian-orthodox Church of the Latter Day Saints.

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    1. Re:Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
      These jokes about death are not funny.

      Remember, this is a case involving a self described gun nut who travels under assumed names

      Bloomberg News
      Darl McBride, chief executive of SCO Group Inc., says he sometimes carries a gun because his enemies are out to kill him. He checks into hotels under assumed names.
      This same nut in a company conference call described hiring people to follow PJ.

      This is a case involving "suicides" of people who have disagreements with the SCO management team that even SCO supporters can't explain (DiDio calling it "shocking and mystifying" and even Enderle saying "Why commit suicide right after the settlement when the people you wanted gone are gone? The timing doesn't seem right, given that things were presumably going her way as far as the lawsuit was concerned".

      Given the context, death isn't funny, even when talking about wicked witches like OGara.

    2. Re:Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't take it personally. He just said "not exactly christian orthodox." Orthodox Christians do not believe Native Americans are the lost tribe of the Israelites, Joseph Smith had magic spectacles, that every Mormon will rule a planet after they die, etc...

    3. Re:Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Except the parent was bringing religion into it when there was no need to. The shame is that the first part of the post I thought was great.

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  3. Honest question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Was Maureen O'Gara REALLY pro-SCO or just being destructively sensationalistic?

  4. Why did it take so long? by rudy_wayne · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Why did a magazine called LinuxWorld continue to print garbage by someone who is so obviously anti-Linux?

    1. Re:Why did it take so long? by Homology · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Why did a magazine called LinuxWorld continue to print garbage by someone who is so obviously anti-Linux?

      Advertisers are a very important source of revenue, and for some the most important one. Have a look at Slashdot stories and keep the phrase "advertisers pay money" in your mind at the same time. Hmh, the average Slashdotter should edit /etc/login.conf and increase maxproc-max from 1 to 2 while doing this. They would need to relogin after this change, though.

  5. too little, too late... by sum.zero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    by sys-con imho. they have repeatedly shown themselves to be anti-linux and they are only doing this because of the pressure [and potential legal issues].

    they are most certainly not acting because it was the right thing to do.

    sum.zero

  6. Re:Censorship!! by gowen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not censorship, you moron. No magazine or website is morally, legally or ethically obliged to publish anything, by anybody. Especially considering O'Gara will expect them to pay her.

    If O'Gara wishes to continue to spout her drivel, there are roughly 27 trillion channels remaining open to her.

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  7. Summary not clear by kevin_conaway · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, the summary didn't make it clear to those of us who don't RTFA. Who is she, why isn't she welcome and why do we care? Thanks.

  8. "Editor in chief"? by int2str · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hearing that Maureen will no longer publish her nonsense articles is certainly good news. But nowhere does it say she actually got sacked by sys-con.

    Without evidence of the contrary , I must however assume she is still "Editor in chief" of "Linux Business Week" and thus still getting paid by sys-con.

    The only thing which was made clear is that she could not publish articles authored by herself anymore.

    Cheers,
    Andre

  9. Loss of Advertisers must have put pressure on by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Amazing what a loss of advertisers can do.

    But I still want to see her around. She and her kind have done more to help Linux than have hurt it. Everytime they FUD, they get called on it. MOG, Dido, Enderle, Dvorack, IDG, Gartner, etc. are losing their credibility.

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  10. Re:So who is she by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    PJ has put a helluva lot of effort into blowing holes in SCO's FUD. In fact, I think that she deserves considerable credit for pretty much snuffing out SCO's publicity campaign. That SCO's supporters would stoop to this level is indicative of just how badly things have become. It's been months since there's been any big SCO news item. Nobody cares any more, though all the shareholders that are going to get kicked in the balls when this whole thing slides into oblivion taking their money with it will in the fullness of time. And I personally won't shed a single tear for them.

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  11. Editors by Talian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know editor is a dirty word here on slashdot, but with a supposed profesionally publication where the hell were the editors?

    Don't most people expect writers to bring drafts and editors tweak before publishing? I mean did NO ONE on staff read this article before it went live? Did they just hand her a publish account and let her loose?

    She sounds like scum, but there's some serious procedure problems as well that allowed this kind of work to happen.

  12. Partisan Journalism? by Infernal+Device · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This action brings up the question: does this put LinuxWorld in the same category as every other partisan hack? While O'Gara's latest column appears to have been over the line (the world will never be able to judge after this), is full removal of all her material necessary?

    From this, I gather that claims of censorship only apply when it's someone you agree with.

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  13. O'Gara May Have Violated Federal Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I were P.J., I'd be filing charges on O'Gara right now. Her actions are likely sufficient to fall under 18 USC 875(c), the Interstate Stalking Punishment and Prevention Act of 1996. She traveled across state lines in an effort to violate the privacy of an individual who has quite reasonable fear for her safety. O'Gara may also be liable under New York's anti-stalking laws as well.

    At the very least, I'd be filing for a restraining order by now.

    Furthermore, Sys-Con was exceptionally negligent in ever allowing that sort of thing to be published. Not only is it a gross and blatant violation of journalistic ethics, but it's quite possibly opened them up to a devastating legal action.

    It's beyond disgusting that something like that would ever be published - most bloggers wouldn't dream of pulling crap like that, but to have a supposedly "professional" organization allow potentially libelous and obviously private information to be disseminated is absolutely unconscionable.

    1. Re:O'Gara May Have Violated Federal Law by najay · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Tin-foil hat perspective of this debacle is that MO'G is actually provoking PJ to sue. This will put PJ's personal info into public court records, which is exactly what MO'G (and SCOg) wants.

      The last few comments i read from PJ (before Groklaw got /.'d) indicated she realized this. She is playing her cards very carefully and intelligently.

    2. Re:O'Gara May Have Violated Federal Law by mla_anderson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If I were P.J., I'd be filing charges on O'Gara right now. Her actions are likely sufficient to fall under 18 USC 875(c), the Interstate Stalking Punishment and Prevention Act of 1996. She traveled across state lines in an effort to violate the privacy of an individual who has quite reasonable fear for her safety. O'Gara may also be liable under New York's anti-stalking laws as well.

      At the very least, I'd be filing for a restraining order by now.

      From what I saw on Groklaw, PJ is actually considering filing charges: Without commenting on the latest O'Gara article's contents, because I am considering legal action and can't comment directly at this time,... (PJ, Intimidation - May 9, 2005).

      Furthermore, Sys-Con was exceptionally negligent in ever allowing that sort of thing to be published. Not only is it a gross and blatant violation of journalistic ethics, but it's quite possibly opened them up to a devastating legal action.

      Yes it is, but it's my understanding that MOG was not only the journalist but also the editor. This made it nearly identical to a personal blog, rather than real reporting. In other words, it was all her, and Sys-Con apparently didn't have review powers until the load of cr*p was already published. This means though that if Sys-Con is still keeping her on as editor in other publications they are playing with fire.

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    3. Re:O'Gara May Have Violated Federal Law by strikethree · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ... and yet when the personal information of spammers and ip lawyers is posted here, everyone cheers. I am not accusing you personally of double standards. i am merely noting how different the reactions are based upon the situation. (situational ethics?)

      strike

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  14. Re:Since it sounds like you understand this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Uh, IBM Vermont is in Burlington, which is our largest city and does not have 80% of its population employed ay IBM.

    I'm in an IBM town and given their penchant for laying people off to minimize retirement expenditures, I can assure you that my opinion is not biased in their favor.

    I'm inclined to think that you've never been to IBM Vermont. IBM Vermont employs a few thousand workers, total.

  15. Re:So who is she by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Speaking as an avid reader of Groklaw, the problem is not PJ per se. The problem is that Groklaw has been quite instrumental in digging out the evidence that gives lie to SCO's various claims (I wouldn't be surprised to find out after the case is done that Groklaw's research was used by both sides in their preparations).

    Whether Maureen O'Gara acted under direction from SCO and company, or whether she is just a biased journalist, remains to be seen. But the recent spate of articles against PJ is more of an attack against Groklaw's effectiveness (and by inference in my opinion, free and open dialog). The fact that O'Gara et al have stooped to personal attacks in itself says a lot about their desperation (again, IMHO).

    It's really comical in one sense, yet dangerously close to blatant hate mongering (I can't think of any other way to say it, sorry). For a professional journalist to publish personal details like Maureen O'Gara did is inexcusable (I'm sure Maureen wouldn't want her personal details published on a web page -- imagine all of the anti-SCO kooks out there that might use it for nefarious purposes).

    In any case, apparently the only thing that SCO can come up with to counter Groklaw is to try and paint it as an IBM lackey or worse, and so both Groklaw and PJ has been under attack recently. All I can say is, when it comes to trust and integrity, who would you pick: SCO or Groklaw?

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  16. Re:LinuxWorld == George Bush by Godeke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think you are confusing anti-Linux criticism with "smear campaign against an individual". I could freaking care less about anti-whatever opinions... everyone has opinions and can pretty well spout them off at will. I'm sure this isn't the death knell for doubters, criticism and FUD. In fact, it would be a bad thing if it was: the Linux crowd if *fueled* by every off in left field wacko who overstates the "communist conspiracy" or other hyperbole. Gets the blood pumping. More reasoned criticism is also a good thing as it identifies weaknesses and allows them to be exposed, attacked and resolved.

    This was neither. This was a personal attack run by an angry, bitter woman against another woman. Not seeing what there is to *support* in that behaviour.

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  17. Re:Since it sounds like you understand this... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a bit worse that that for O'Gara. Research posted on Groklaw has pointed out that it sure seems like O'Gara had access to previously sealed court documents (now unsealed in some cases), based on the timing of some of the articles she has published. If true, that could put her and her sources in serious (i.e. criminal) hot water...

    Could the issue of illegal access to sealed documents as implied on Groklaw be a motive to her attempt to get all documents in the case unsealed, as well as the recent attacks on PJ? Should be interesting to see what comes of that...

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  18. Re:Of course by FyRE666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Excuse me, just how do YOU know how many people complained to the advertisers? I personally complained to Google (politely), and received a response that they were in fact investigating the matter. This would suggest that I wasn't alone... ...It also makes me a bigger fan of Google ;-)

  19. Re:Since it sounds like you understand this... by Usagi_yo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    In the case of SCO/IBM, PJ and groklaw does a great job. Presenting fact with opinion only as commentary in the threads.

    In regards to other FOSS issues, PJ does a terrible terrible job, presenting mainly Opinion (her opinion) as topic, with chitterings of approval coming from her chorus.

  20. Re:Since it sounds like you understand this... by fLameDogg · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Tempest in a teacup, but interesting none the less.

    However, there have been two (apparent) suicides in the wake of the whole SCO/Canopy goings-on, and PJ herself mentioned "predictions" of her own suicide by posters on the Yahoo (finance, SCOX[E] stock) message board. She took it seriously enough to point out on Groklaw that, should anything happen to her, it would most assuredly not be suicide.

    This specific issue (MOG's nasty article and her subsequent removal from Sys-Con sites) could be fairly judged a "tempest in a teapot", I suppose, but zoom out a bit and I would have to say otherwise.

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