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German Robot Dogs Dominate 2005 RoboCup U.S. Open

fishdan writes "As reported over on Sportsdot, the 2005 RoboCup US Open wrapped up today in Atlanta, Georgia. The American entry from the University of Texas fell 2-0 in robot soccer to the powerhouse German squad, the MicroSoft HellHounds. After the match, the German robot dogs were programmed to flex their metal biceps. With the time to devote to development and the financial backing of a company like Microsoft, the German entries are much more polished then their American counterparts at the moment. Last month at the RoboCup German Open, the Germans dominated nearly every category. (Slashdot has covered Robocup in previous years, too.)"

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  1. Oh Yeah? by smug_lisp_weenie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, we still woop their butt in robot basketball.

    Oh- Plus, our team just lost because they were intimidated by the German robotic soccer hooligans.

    1. Re:Oh Yeah? by cHALiTO · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean like you won in human basketball at the olympics? oh, wait.. nevermind. ;)

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  2. I wonder... by bmalek · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... if asking for a beer and a dog at the event would be frowned upon?

    What happens to the dogs that get the blue screen of death?

  3. Natural allies by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Microsoft teaming up with the Germans? Oh yeah, something good is bound to come out of that.

    -Eric

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  4. Not Austin Villa by hauntedspaceship · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was CMDash from Carnegie Melon that played Dortmund in the US-German match. UT Austin Villa placed 3rd behind UPenn and CMU.

  5. Pro Wrestling by kahei · · Score: 2, Funny


    Now I get it -- it's like Pro Wrestling! They're building the evil evil HellHounds up to be the baddies -- muscle-flexing (probably nazi, gay, or both) foreigners with shady corporate backing. Now the first American team, the down-home Texans, takes a fall to build up sympathy. THAT's when they wheel out the REAL HEROES, which'll be some big 'Team America' (only not puppets) which will whup the teutonic cheats to the sound of wild cheering and 'yankee doodle'.

    I'm getting my crudely-lettered 'KILL!' sign ready now!

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  6. Same with normal soccer by moz25 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The germans dominate at normal soccer (with humans) too. It's annoying.

    1. Re:Same with normal soccer by -brazil- · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Being Vice World Champion ain't that worthless an achievement in my book. No, Germany is not dominating soccer right now, but it didn't do that in the past either. I wouldn't even say that Brazil is dominating soccer.

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  7. Re:Bi-pedal robots by theVP · · Score: 2, Funny

    It will be even more fun when they pick an entertaining sport. :P

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  8. Flex my shiny metal... by autophile · · Score: 2, Funny
    After the match, the German robot dogs were programmed to flex their metal biceps.

    (sigh) After the post, the Nerd slashdot dogs were programmed to flex their keyboard fingers and kill the servers.

    --Rob

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  9. Why Germans? by inherent+monkey+love · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Other than to give the foil-hat types among us a dose of pyrric irony, why would Microsoft team up with a German team? I would think that the past few months have demonstrated that Europeans dislike Microsfot even more than the US. So why?

  10. In the words of Gary Lineker by ardmhacha · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win." -- Gary Lineker (English soccer/football player)

  11. Re:Germans vs Americans by Quill_28 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not at all a waaa. The Germen won because of the time and effort they were willing to put in. And there robot programming skill

    But having a sponser certainly helps. Where the Germans had 20? people working on it, some full time. The Americans, according to the article, were working on it between classes.

    Congrats to the Germans, untill the Americans take it more seriously they will be lucky to win.

  12. Develop a robot to *watch* soccer by ewg · · Score: 4, Funny

    We need to develop a robot to watch soccer, an activity Americans generally consider too tedious for humans.

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    1. Re:Develop a robot to *watch* soccer by ceeam · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, because you may miss a goal while chewing your corn or opening your beer. American "Football" OTOH is nicely paced to allow for proper nutrition pauses.

    2. Re:Develop a robot to *watch* soccer by Quixote · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... as compared to a fast, action-packed game like baseball.

  13. Re:bleh by kahei · · Score: 2, Insightful


    So to recap, some guy tweaked you 'a few months ago', and you are still bothered enough that you spend two paragraphs telling Slashdot how Soccer is boring and you take pride in the fact that the US sucks at it and anyway the US will win anyway and 'Euros' suck. I'm gonna assume you're a Republican.

    Now, calm down. The US is great at lots of things. It's not a major soccer playing nation. That's fine. It's okay that the US is not good at soccer. Accept it... then forget about it. It's no biggie.

    Ya know, I really feel I have helped this guy.

    Waiter! My redundant/troll/flamebait mod please!

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  14. Re:bleh by edremy · · Score: 2, Informative
    Since when is a 2-0 score "domination"?

    This is a sport where World Cup finals are decided by penalty shots because nobody could score while playing the actual game. 2-0 is something like 97-0 in american football terms.

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  15. Re:Germans vs Americans by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Teacher: Sorry, you failed that test.
    Pupil: But, I haven't put much effort into learning, and for that, I think it was quite good!

    Now, what's the most likely reaction of the teacher?
    A: "Oh, sorry, I didn't know that. Well, for not learning much, that work was definitely not bad! I'll correct your grade immediatly!"
    B: "So you didn't put much effort in it? Ok, well, then you just got what you deserve."
    C: "Well, I'm not sure what I should do now. Maybe I'll make it an AskSlashdot question ..."

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  16. Re:Germans vs Americans by Omega697 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, let it be known that it wasn't us (UT Austin Villa) that played the Germans, but the team from CMU (CMDash).

    Also, let it be known that in the world competition, the German teams all combine to form one team of about 80 people from many different universities around Germany. They have a very structured codebase (I believe the use a lot of XML to define behaviors and motions) that they all work on. Don't crown the German Team too quickly though, there are some mighty good teams from Australia too, one of which gave the German Team a serious run for their money in last year's RoboCup finals.

  17. Re:Micro*s*oft by J1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Unox, the worst operating system"

    (only funny if you speak Dutch I guess)

  18. Tell me this by BaudKarma · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do the robots have rocket launchers and lasers? Or even titanium buzzsaw blades at the end of their arms?

    No?

    You mean it's *just* soccer?

    Then why do I care?

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  19. German?!? by HBergeron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why am I beset by the image of huge metal german shepards chasing me through the woods and then sitting up and flexing over my lifeless corpse.

    German... Robot... Dogs... Chilling.

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  20. Does anyone have video of the match? by neo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd really like to watch the match, did anyone save the video?

  21. To improve America's showing next year... by kent_eh · · Score: 2, Funny
    -we need to improve the bottom line by offshoring more engineering/tech jobs.
    -move more scholarships to sports programs.
    -increase school class size to make schools more efficient.
    -increase corperate and religious involvement in school curricuum.



    oh, wait...

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  22. Facts ftw by Morticae · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am a CS major at UT Austin and have been involved in robotics here. It was mentioned briefly, but I'd like to paste the text from the UT site which corrects this article. Sources. Check them.

    "11 May 2005
    The team is just getting back from the 2005 US Open where we placed third. While we lost our semifinal match 1-0 to Penn, we played an exhibition match against the eventual first place team, CMU, and won 2-1. In official play, we outscored our opponents 24-1. With a little bit of luck we could have wound up in 2nd or even 1st. We're coming home with a lot of ideas for improvement though, so we're looking forward to Robocup 2005 in Osaka! Contrary to what was posted on Slashdot, we did not play the Germans. That was CMDash from CMU."

  23. What's your point? by LordStraun · · Score: 2, Informative
    They also played in the US Open.

    The German Robocup included teams from:
    • Portugal
    • Iran
    • The Netherlands
    • Austria
    • France
    • Italy
    • Russia
    • Denmark
    • United Arab Emirates
    And of course, Germany.
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  24. Re:German Technology by nick-less · · Score: 2, Funny

    In their culture, its cool to be a 'geek'!

    I bet you've never been here...

  25. You know what... by springMute · · Score: 4, Funny

    The pusher robot would smash them all by pushing them over the stairs.

  26. Re:Germans vs Americans by uradu · · Score: 2, Funny

    So what you're saying is that we shouldn't admire them too much since they only won because they pooled their resources efficiently and had good programming practices? Sheesh, those cheating bastards!

  27. Re:bleh by GutBomb · · Score: 2, Funny

    they are germans, not italians